EasyDIS 44 and INPA working

[aidilj]

oops picture is not from this thread, its from the carputer thread. Here you go.

Left is EDIABAS/INPA interface, right is ELM327, offset is the USB-to-serial

 

[solo]

Solo, good question, I recommend the one from Cliptec like in my picture earlier. It uses Prolific chip instead of FTDI and all the pins on DB-9 are properly implemented. Totally recommend Cliptec.

Wah you were posting about the Cliptech as I was posting about it too. Thanks man. The org puteh forums were all talking about the Startech cable and I doubt we can find it in KL.

You can't use EDIABAS/INPA interface with PAsoft scanner because PAsoft has microcontroller in it and it speaks a proprietary language.

Ah I had a feeling it wouldn't work. Thanks for the confirmation. On with the hunt for live data.

Salut

 

[IanDaddy]

Nice! Please update when you are able to fix the mouse problem.

I have the TIS .iso file, installed it as standalone not part of DIS. Yup agreed there's a lot of info in it, wondering how would it integrate into DIS..

VAG-COM is USB which uses the FTDI USB-to-serial chip, the community essentially hacked the circuit for proper ignition detection.

On another note, I'm wondering what kind of industry are you in...?

I think you can install TIS within DIS , notice the left side of the screen after the DIS is started, I think the process is much like DIS. I have read that some has succeeded doing that. Just wonder if a later date release of TIS can be installed.

I am sort of in the IT line , just haven't be doing a lot these software installation stuff for last many years, less technical more IT management stuff.

 

[aidilj]

Yes noticed that but didn't try to install, I bet it's the same method because it is in .iso format. I also only have 2007 TIS, again just wondering how would it integrate with DIS. Maybe with an error message, there's a TIS shortcut button to go to the page.

 

[IanDaddy]

Yes noticed that but didn't try to install, I bet it's the same method because it is in .iso format. I also only have 2007 TIS, again just wondering how would it integrate with DIS. Maybe with an error message, there's a TIS shortcut button to go to the page.

That's what I thought, or else it makes no difference where it sits. It should be able to reference the diagnosis with TIS.

Also, do you get the signal bars indicator for the diaghead ? , left of the help button in the DIS main screen.

 

[aidilj]

Nope, as I mentioned in the first post, this indicator wouldn't light up at all but indeed connection is working. Also note that, there'll be no free diag head in setup, this is again perfectly fine as long you can run API test successfully. And you don't have to run API test on each startup, it will be connected automatically when you hit diagnose/coding.

Just throwing this out if it helps

 

[IanDaddy]

Got my cable and it works. Next is to get V57. Aidilj , which is your preferred download site ?

Thanks

 

[aidilj]

Wow good to hear that! :top::top:

I don't have v57 yet, maybe a search on overseas beamer forums. I found torrents to be unreliable.

 

[IanDaddy]

I may want to try installing the diagheadinstall , I think it will make the diaghead indicator to show the bars.

 

[aidilj]

I think you are talking about the diaghead emulator. You can give that a try.. not sure about the sttings though. You need the diaghead emulator when you are supposed to use GT1 with the actual yellow diaghead but only have a serial OBD interface.

 

[t2ribena]

someone is selling the V57 on eBay...around rm170+

 

[IanDaddy]

I think you are talking about the diaghead emulator. You can give that a try.. not sure about the sttings though. You need the diaghead emulator when you are supposed to use GT1 with the actual yellow diaghead but only have a serial OBD interface.

Yes aidilj, it is the emulator. The installer is diagheadinstall.msi.

 

[M3addict]

oops picture is not from this thread, its from the carputer thread. Here you go.

Left is EDIABAS/INPA interface, right is ELM327, offset is the USB-to-serial

where to get this EDIABAS/INPA interface here in KL?
or only can get thru ebay?

 

[IanDaddy]

Installed TIS into DIS 44 last night from CD from a friend.
aidilj, what is the max length for the serial cable for Ediabas cable ?

M3addict, try ebay or many of the chinese online sites.

 

[aidilj]

Good to know, so the procedure is the same as installing program 44? load CD and start the VM, then install thru DIS menu in administration? Is it TIS version 2007?

Not really sure about cable length, mine is around 1.5m from OBD 16 pin to female serial head. Then the bundled up USB to serial converter. Sometimes get error to communicate maybe due to signal integrity. Why do you ask?

 

[IanDaddy]

Yes, the procedure is the same. I installed from CD so no need to use Daemon Tools, I have to change the VM settings for the CD-rom. Install thru the Administration menu.
In DIS the CD is labeled 2007 but when I look at the documents and check the version in DIS it says something else. Need to explore a bit.

Yes, many have problem using the Serial to USB and I think it is caused by the length hence signal strength/integrity. So, knowing the limit of the cable will help as I want to get a serial to USB adapter as well.

 

[jarance]

Yes, the procedure is the same. I installed from CD so no need to use Daemon Tools, I have to change the VM settings for the CD-rom. Install thru the Administration menu.
In DIS the CD is labeled 2007 but when I look at the documents and check the version in DIS it says something else. Need to explore a bit.

Yes, many have problem using the Serial to USB and I think it is caused by the length hence signal strength/integrity. So, knowing the limit of the cable will help as I want to get a serial to USB adapter as well.

Serial cable communication for RS232 is limited to 500 meters.

Check the comm port assignment using device manager for the comm port when the usb to serial is plugged in.

when you run the diagnostic program, check the comm setting. choose the correct comm port as assigned by the device manager.

 

[IanDaddy]

Found out that RS232 length depends on the baud rate as well, the faster the shorter cable. Does that mean we just need to know the baud rate of the OBD port ? Would there be some sort of UART in the OBD port of the Car ?

 

[aidilj]

The BMW diagnostic bus is on ISO-K line, this is the information from wiki

ISO 9141-2. This protocol has an asynchronous serial data rate of 10.4 kBaud. It is somewhat similar to RS-232, however the signal levels are different, and communications happens on a single, bidirectional line without additional handshake signals. ISO 9141-2 is primarily used in Chrysler, European, and Asian vehicles.

• pin 7: K-line
• pin 15: L-line (optional)
• UART signaling
• K-line idles high, with a 510 ohm resistor to Vbatt
• The active/dominant state is driven low with an open-collector driver.
• Message length is restricted to 12 bytes, including CRC

I think here it is best to keep the k line wire as short as possible and transfer most data on USB bus/ ethernet. This is what they have been doing for PAsoft and yellow diag head. Gonna shorten the cable when I have the time..

Thanks guys

 

[solo]

Installed TIS into DIS 44 last night from CD from a friend.
aidilj, what is the max length for the serial cable for Ediabas cable ?

M3addict, try ebay or many of the chinese online sites.

IanDaddy,

Which seller or website did you deal with to buy your EDIABAS/INPA interface? Since you had a good experience with him, I'm thinking of buying from him too. Thanks.

Salut