1st oil change for E9x

[E46Fanatic]

Personally for me, I'd stick to the widely recommended and accepted way of running in. Other things which the manual recomends like extended svc interval, I'll use my head and do more frequent oil changes in between before the oil turns to sludge and destroys the engine heh.

 

[Schwepps]

Great. You can read manual.
I guess the manual also tell you to bring back Authorized BMW center so they can charge your more with labours and parts. Yay !

WTF? You can have your opinions but you don't need to be obnoxious. Jeez! :30:

 

[Schwepps]

In modern manufacturing processes, the piston rings are already seated at the engine plant in a controlled process before shipping to assembly. That's why most cars don't require a run-in oil change these days. They certainly don't need you to do a so-called 'hard break-in' yourself.

In their recommendations, manufacturers are talking about running-in the entire running gear of a car which includes the suspension, gearbox, brakes and tyres. Certainly you don't have to baby it, but you shouldn't rev past 4k or kick down or accelerate/brake too hard to let all the mechanicals and rubber seat properly.

And they're not talking about motorcycles either...

 

[jarance]

Great. You can read manual.
I guess the manual also tell you to bring back Authorized BMW center so they can charge your more with labours and parts. Yay !

dude, please be civlised in your reply to others.


If you cannot do it, then refrain from posting.

 

[jarance]

Those who are interested to find out more on the "untraditional" break in... read this:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Ab, I have read this article before. I just want to know if anybody in Malaysia have ever DARE to try it on a brand new UDM.

 

[turbology]

I just tell what I know.
If you rather believe what manufacturer tell you, ok.
And go ahead use the recommend 5w-30 engine oil.

best part is no mentioning of draining of beak in fluid or filter.. :top: :stupid:

yeah, go tell them to be civilized.
Before you get respected, respect others.

 

[David Yong]

Personally for me, I'd stick to the widely recommended and accepted way of running in. Other things which the manual recomends like extended svc interval, I'll use my head and do more frequent oil changes in between before the oil turns to sludge and destroys the engine heh.

Yeah, this is the best & safest way IMHO.

 

[jarance]

Yeah, this is the best & safest way IMHO.

Agreed with it as well. We should follow as per manufacturer recommendation rather than somebody recomendation which is based on "google it" and have not try it before themselves.

 

[turbology]

....have not try it before themselves.

I said "yes, yes, and yes"

 

[jarance]

I said "yes, yes, and yes"

ooppss, sorry my bad. I thought your 3 x yes was referring to:-

It is unconventional, untraditional, and very controversial.

So I presume that your "yes, yes, and yes" means that you have done it to 3 brand new cars. Sorry bro for being long winded, can you please confirm, as I hate to misquote you again. :rock:

 

[turbology]

no problem. Well, I was agree with "this is unconventional way". And yes, I did it on new car, and yes, I agree with you no many people will agree with this method.

I did it on 1. freshly rebuilt engine. 2. New engine from new car 3.Old engine with rehorn and new rings.

But hey, what do I know ?

 

[jarance]

thanks for the clarification.. BTW, regarding item 2. New engine from new car, was it by any chance a UDM and if it is, what model was it?

 

[turbology]

No, it wasn't a UDM. ( as BMW? What is UDM? )

 

[jarance]

No, it wasn't a UDM. ( as BMW? What is UDM? )

yes, UDM as in Ultimate Driving Machine, as in SDP- Sheer Driving Pleasure. These are coined slogan for BMW..

Surely, you are not pulling my leg by asking me what is UDM?:listen:

 

[GHS]

UDM = Ultimate Driving Machine, it's usually a common moniker referring to BMWs.

 

[turbology]

Surely, you are not pulling my leg by asking me what is UDM?:listen:

Nope If you didn't tell me, I won't never relate UDM with the slogan.

 

[astroboy]

The hard break-in method is not easy, the ideal way to do it is on tracks as you need to rev it hard with a set of increasing rev range and increasing period, and must be done during the first 500km of the engine life. Its almost impossible to carry it out on public road. If I say I run in my brand new E90 the hard way, I would be bluffing because there simply is not enough public road in PJ to do it, but I did occasionally break the 160kph break-in requirement before hitting the 2k km "safe zone".. Thanks to the article..

 

[jarance]

Nope If you didn't tell me, I won't never relate UDM with the slogan.

Not to worry, we learn new thing everyday. This forum is for sharing ideas with people who have similar interest. :rock: :rock:

 

[turbology]

With modern process and technology, break-in is almost unnecessary for powertrain and drivetrain.
But Murphy's Law always apply. Bad things does happen. And 5PPM failure is common for auto industry.
The only reason I can see that they have "Manual Recommendation", is when things do failed, which usualy first few KMs to few weeks, it will cost them minimum $$ to fix it for you free under warranty.

So, I will drive it the way I want it as soon as it roll off from production line. Hard!
Warranty is their issue, not mine. Is good to find out sooner than later.
Changing oil is common sense if you know physics

 

[jarance]

The hard break-in method is not easy, the ideal way to do it is on tracks as you need to rev it hard with a set of increasing rev range and increasing period, and must be done during the first 500km of the engine life. Its almost impossible to carry it out on public road. If I say I run in my brand new E90 the hard way, I would be bluffing because there simply is not enough public road in PJ to do it, but I did occasionally break the 160kph break-in requirement before hitting the 2k km "safe zone".. Thanks to the article..

Ab, even if the condition allow you to do it, who would want to take a risk to try it and risk blowing up a brand new engine and cannot claim on the warranty because you did not follow the manufacturer recommendation to "run in" the engine properly.

Until such method have been tried and proven for an UDM, I think the safest bet is to rely on Manufacturer recommendation for the time being. I have always keep an open mind on unconventional method but at the same time being sceptical due to lack of technical information to back up such claim.
The combustion engine cannot defy the law of physic. :rock: