When BMW F30 first service due?

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achtung;790730 said:
TheTinkerer - 8000km

hmmm...a lot of variance !! wonder why?

Obviously cut cost measures since free maintenance are to be given within 3 years/60,000km. Longer interval means they save maintenance costs at the expense of our cars. And obviously some of the dealers find it too immoral, so they stick to 10k interval.
 
My SA told me first service at 10,000km the OBC shows 27,000km service. Agreeds with Jennypenny oil temperature runs the same everywhere unless big variation of PVT
 
No need to think so much, make appointment when at 8000 km for peace of mind. This was also shared by other forum members.

I read that the engine becomes louder after 12k km.
 
Somehow the car is belong to you, to decide follow the OBC or change by yourself the decision is on your hand. There is no engine oil/lubricant that can last for so long.

To keep your engine run at peak performance it is recommended to have your oil change every 8000km-10,000km.

Dont be confusing because of the OBC setting and the warranty deed given that hold you back to maintain your car frequently, that is just part of the appreciation program to owner only.

My personal experience is BMW will not entertain you when ever your car touch 30,001km or 36month 1 day whichever come first. DO Remember after all the car is belong to you.
 
Don't want to sound like advertising, but I personally flush my engine with Liqui Moly before service then top up with ceratec after that.

But be warned, it is addictive.
 
While we are at this topic, wonder what is the free service package like. I have yet to send my car in for the first service. Does the free service package includes everything (parts + labour)?
 
free service is once a year. for 3 years. means 3 free services. if you go in earlier, you pay yourself or, it will be less than 3 years.
 
astroboy;709057 said:
BSRI only covers a handful of items, FOC for parts + labor but must follow OBC counters. Cannot simply request for change just because you felt like changing it or your BRSI about to due.

The handful of items are listed here: http://www.autobavaria.com/com/en/general/greatdeals/bmw_feel/BSRI/bmw_serviceinclusive.html

*Quote from above:

The service includes:
• Change of engine oil (not including top-ups).
• Service / replacement of air filters, microfilters, spark plugs, brake fluid.
• Brake pads, front and rear.
• Brake disc, front and rear.
• Clutch (worn only)
• Windscreen wiper blades as part of routine maintenance.
• Vehicle check and standard services as set out in BMW service booklet in owners documentation (chapter : Maintenance summary, Vehicle check)


Anything not in the above list, only covered by warranty, against manufacturer's defect, which includes almost everything.. hence only 2 years and 60k km whichever comes first... things like leaks, upholstery peeling, burnt fuses, door lock actuator, steering lock failure, etc. These are all claimed under warranty and not BSRI.. see the difference? :4:

One more thing.. u notice the spark plugs in the above list, I remember it wasn't there before. Reason is very simple, the CKD E90s are equipped with NGK Iridium which can last at least 100k km and that's is the OBC parameter for spark plugs change notification trigger. By the time the trigger illuminated, your BSRI would have expired 40k km ago.. :4:

Hmmnn... air filter wasn't there too!! I wonder what's the mileage to trigger air filter change.. my car is 66k km now.. air filter still hasn't change.. :(

A brief explanation on BRSI from the Great Astroboy (he's actually no longer a boy..)
 
Hi all seniors. Im henry a newbie here. Waiting for my 320i to be out in jan 2013. Sorry to ask this but i notice so much discrepancy in the obd service km. could it be caused by using imitation oil from SC like what happened in many proton SC?? Can i suggest we compile the recommended obd service mileage together with the SC name to make comparison to look for any clues??
 
DR78;791067 said:
Hi all seniors. Im henry a newbie here. Waiting for my 320i to be out in jan 2013. Sorry to ask this but i notice so much discrepancy in the obd service km. could it be caused by using imitation oil from SC like what happened in many proton SC?? Can i suggest we compile the recommended obd service mileage together with the SC name to make comparison to look for any clues??

This is not likely to happen with BMW. I am pretty sure.
 
Benhschoy;791074 said:
This is not likely to happen with BMW. I am pretty sure.

I believe so too but if got statistic then we know for sure. Eg if all cars serviced at quill pj shows drastic drop in obd service mileage then could be suspicious. BMW per se should be safe but individual SC may sell their ori oils and buy cheap imitation ones for their customers. Im sure the car sensor is accurate in detecting the detioration of the car's engine oil and hence recommends the km to service. Thus cars from Sc that shows minimal drop in recommended service km would be the best. Right? Just guessing only
 
our BMWs use synthetic oils. it should last beyong 10,000kms. theoretically, it should last 30,000 km without much fuss.

hence, why BMW around the world, recommends 20,000 to 30,000km service cycle.

however, if you would like peace of mind, service every 15,000km to 20,000km (you are still well within 30k lifespan).

servicing more often will be better but it wouldnt be cost effective. (hey, if you have unlimited resource, why not?)

engine noise being coarser after 10k is just "placebo" effect.

my brother works for Petronas Lubricants department, he says that Synthetics can last beyond 50k for normal driving. so unless you gun your car daily, 15k to 20k service cycle is perfectly fine.
 
Very easy lah... One of you believers that the oil can last long long can conduct this to further prove your faith in long term oil...
1) Drain the oil every 5000km interval
2) photo-document the color and maybe a simple viscocity test (rub between your fingers, drip a drop on a glass and see how long it can flow down)
3) Then pour back into the engine and use for another 5000km.
4) Repeat until you have no more confidence to use the same oil for another 5000km.

All the theorectical talk is nothing compared to a real world test done on your own...

Remember that engine oil does 2 things in your engine.... Lubricate and clean...

How long the oil can last is not down to whether it can still lubricate, it is how much 'dirt' it can hold while not compromising the lubrication.
 
fabianyee;791196 said:
Very easy lah... One of you believers that the oil can last long long can conduct this to further prove your faith in long term oil...
1) Drain the oil every 5000km interval
2) photo-document the color and maybe a simple viscocity test (rub between your fingers, drip a drop on a glass and see how long it can flow down)
3) Then pour back into the engine and use for another 5000km.
4) Repeat until you have no more confidence to use the same oil for another 5000km.

All the theorectical talk is nothing compared to a real world test done on your own...

Remember that engine oil does 2 things in your engine.... Lubricate and clean...

How long the oil can last is not down to whether it can still lubricate, it is how much 'dirt' it can hold while not compromising the lubrication.

are you sure engine oil test can be done using two finger rubbing against each other?

i thought, you'd need an oil analysis (sending oil sample to labs) to tell if the oil needs changing.

rubbing oil with two fingers is the oil wife's tale of checking the lubricity of the oil.
 
jennypenny;791218 said:
are you sure engine oil test can be done using two finger rubbing against each other?

i thought, you'd need an oil analysis (sending oil sample to labs) to tell if the oil needs changing.

rubbing oil with two fingers is the oil wife's tale of checking the lubricity of the oil.

2 finger test more suited for other test of lubricity..
 
ben ............thats a cool way to lubrcate the hot topic....hahahahaha.....many times laughter is the best medicine.
 
jennypenny;791221 said:


Great link... a paragraph below ....


Changing the oil in your car every 3,000 miles was necessary in the 1970s, when most cars used 10W-40 oil, which tended to wear out within about 3,000 miles. Thanks to improvements in high-quality lubricants and tighter tolerances in the assembly of automotive engines, the 3,000-mile baseline simply does not apply to many cars on the road today; in fact, automakers now recommend you change oil at 5,000, 7,000, 10,000 or even as high as 15,000 miles for newer models under ideal driving conditions.

For example, Toyota recommends you change oil at 5,000 miles for a 2005 Tacoma pickup, Honda recommends 7,500 miles for its 2002 Odyssey, General Motors suggests 7,500 miles for its 2007 Chevrolet Malibu, and Ford recommends 10,000 miles for its 2011 Fiesta. A 2008 Porsche Boxster can go 12,000 miles between changes, and a 2010 BMW 3 Series can go up to 15,000 miles before you change oil under ideal conditions;
 
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