Website programming - is this true?

[TTang]

what is goin on? how come people fiting? we all love bimmers!

 

[bmwcar]

what is goin on? how come people fiting? we all love bimmers!

no lah....its was a discussion that got a bit emotional at times....nothing extraordinary.......

anyway, on my part, till so far, have learnt alot about websites and various ideas of business approaches to different situations.....

 

[TTang]

wat this e90 e60? i tot bimmer only got 3 serie 7 serie 5 serie?

 

[popeadrian]

wat this e90 e60? i tot bimmer only got 3 serie 7 serie 5 serie?

Tang... read the following link....

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401

Cheers!

 

[TTang]

sori my nama ang no tang.

the story long hard to read my english bad.

 

[jarance]

sori my nama ang no tang.

the story long hard to read my english bad.

Mr. TTang. I would appreciate it if you could refrain from posting remarks
or comment that is not relevant to this thread.

Thank you for your kind understanding. Have a Good day.

 

[TTang]

sori sori pls dun scold me i dun no how to ask question my helper went for kopi. sori sori.

 

[tkew]

Originally Posted by NKTOB

aiyo realy a talk c%^k king ma, no money to make.........

U wan see the books or not?....really not worth investing time here lar


Why you keeping it like your own baby ? just release back to the client ?

Sudah released....long ago, tapi client screwed up!

Why the new sponsor coming in.........dont ask for any sponsor then ????

Who has to pay for reconstruction? You? Go ask the new sponsor why are thy running around with the site sponsored t-shirt even before signing in??? Someone else making $$$ here?

Why put it up under .my , just shut it down then ??????????

Shut down liao....:stupid: Boh wah eh su liao...



Se beh bo kam yen !!!! talk c#$k king , Shut down the server while downloding is call released ??? Just like buying a car give you a key and go find the car yourself ???

Reconstruction ?? Putting us the same site under different domain .my with all same data and program is call reconstruct. ?? Ya forgot d used to claim other idea as his and change the car bodykit and rim say now "I built the car la "

C#p$k after so much screwing from everywhere now say "now shut down liao" like so great....:stupid:

:thefinger:

 

[popeadrian]

So essentially, utilising what tkew has said to the scenario above, it would seem that FE has been utterly unethical by stealing the work meant for the Client and claiming it as its own. In addition, utilising what RedEarth has said, it would seem from the scenario above, FE have also taken monies from sponsors under false pretences! And yet at the same time (in their state of schitzo-ness) claiming that they haven't been fully paid but that there isnt any monies owing.....Terrible...just terrible.... disgusting isnt it?

 

[RedEarth]

So essentially, utilising what tkew has said to the scenario above, it would seem that FE has been utterly unethical by stealing the work meant for the Client and claiming it as its own. In addition, utilising what RedEarth has said, it would seem from the scenario above, FE have also taken monies from sponsors under false pretences! And yet at the same time (in their state of schitzo-ness) claiming that they haven't been fully paid but that there isnt any monies owing.....Terrible...just terrible.... disgusting isnt it?

not just disgusting la.....errr.... don how to say la....

Me :rock:

FE :thefinger:

 

[NKTOB]

Okay, you want to open up for all? Let’s have a party

 

[bmwcar]

Okay, you want to open up for all? Let’s have a party

 

[popeadrian]

Okay, you want to open up for all? Let’s have a party

 

[tkew]

You just started the party why go home so early ? Just answer the question ?

1)Who authorised the web hoster to shut down the server, when knowingly the downloading is in progress ??

This question will tell the whole story that claimed "hand over" is done .

2)Who shut down the server way before the web hoster saying that they will shut it down due to expiry of the contract ??

Web hoster normally allow a grace period to back up or transfer of data.

:thefinger:

 

[popeadrian]

You just started the party why go home so early ? Just answer the question ?

1)Who authorised the web hoster to shut down the server, when knowingly the downloading is in progress ??

This question will tell the whole story that claimed "hand over" is done .

2)Who shut down the server way before the web hoster saying that they will shut it down due to expiry of the contract ??

Web hoster normally allow a grace period to back up or transfer of data.

:thefinger:

Ayoh tkew....its common knowledge that conmen will never reply direct questions like yourslah....then they cannot putar-belit and point fingers at other people

 

[jarance]

You just started the party why go home so early ? Just answer the question ?

1)Who authorised the web hoster to shut down the server, when knowingly the downloading is in progress ??

This question will tell the whole story that claimed "hand over" is done .

2)Who shut down the server way before the web hoster saying that they will shut it down due to expiry of the contract ??

Web hoster normally allow a grace period to back up or transfer of data.

:thefinger:

Sorry, I am a bit confused here.

1. What proof do you have when you claim that the web hoster shutdown the server? As far as I know, most servers are usually located oversea other than the one operated by timedotcom, maxis and tmnet etc. Most servers provider lease "gigabytes space" to web hosting company which in turn sublease to people who want to host a website eg.. bmwcm forum. So if the server is shutdown as claimed, then other domians sharing the same server would be also affected. I don't think it make sense for a webhoster to do this type shutdown nor they have the power to do it unless the server is located in their office.

2. Yes, webhoster usually allowed grace period after the expiry of the contract but it is not very long.. Looking at the date from 11th till 16th, the website is still running and all data are intact after the admin key have been handed over on the 10th. That means a grace period of 6 days have been given. As mentioned by python, it usually take about 4 hours to zip backup all the files in his server harddisk and that include all the domains under his webhosting company. So a 6 days period is considered reasonable to download the files of 1 domain for backup purposes.

The scenario as I read it is:-

Tenant A of 9 family members rent a unfurnished bungalow except for a few fittings from Landlord A for a year. Tenant A invites friends to house warming party at bungalow. Friends of course come for party but bring some furniture to the bungalow knowing that the Tenant A have only rented an unfurnised bungalow. After party, friend leave behind some furniture as a gift.

Tenant A found another better bungalow (maybe nearer to working place) from Landlord B. Tenant A of course informed Lanlord A that he is going to move out before the 1 year period. Landlord A then asked Tenant A "What about the furnitures in the bangalow". Tenant A then said "No problem, my new lanlord B will take care of the moving. I am going for a holiday, could you pass the house key to the new lanlord B"

Landlord then say "OK lar" but informed Tenant A that the furniture must be moved by 1 month.

After 2 weeks later, lanlord A sent 3rd reminder via email messages that the furniture is still in the bungalow and Lanlord B have not moved it. Landlord A also remind tenant A that he have left 10 days to move out his furniture.

After 10 days later (3 days before the dateline), tenant A confirm the house key is received and Landlord B will be moving the furniture ASAP. Landlord B proceed to move the furniture but somewhere along the route, the furniture got hijacked or lost during the transportation. Tenant A was informed by Landlord B that they could not deliver the furniture because it was lost somehwere (but don't know where).

Tenant A got angry because he valued the furniture as it was a gift from friends. Tenant A contact landlord A and said "what have you done with my furniture? Why my landlord B cannot find it? and ""also why you stop my new Landlord B from entering the Bangalow to remove the furniture""

Landlord A say "OK I check for you and report back he can still see the furniture lying there in the bungalow via his remote camera"

However, 3 days after the expiry of the lease, a tsunami strike at the bungalow and all the furniture were swept away... sad..

 

[popeadrian]

errr....small amendmentlah Chief...see, during the time/effort of Landlord B in moving the furniture, suddenly Landlord A tells the gated community security guard to stop Landlord B from entering the gated community where this bungalow is located. So now, ofcouselah the Tenant is going to be darn annoyed esp when Landlord A claims no knowledge of this (eventhough the security guards comfirm instructions from Landlord A) but say "no prob, we see whats going on"....

So to avoid any problems, since Landlord B now quite annoyed, the Tenant talks with the Landlord A who says that the Tenant can stay at Landlord A's bungalow until the original tenancy ends. But suddently, after a couple of months, the Landlord decides to put up banners outside the bungalow (wihtout informing the tenants as per the tenancy agreemen) and then even has the nerve to restrict the access of some of the tenants!

So the tenants then revolt asking the Landlord whats going on. The Landlord claims nothing is the matter....so the tenants demand their rights. But then the landlord starts claiming that the tenants didnt pay the full rent....first the landlord claims 2 ppl didnt pay...then claims one person didnt pay..then claims "some others" didnt pay...so the tenats are confused. They ask the landlord to meet with them but the landlord still refuses and instead locks up the house and hides the key.

Now what are the tenants supposed to do? They have all this furniture inside the house, they paid the rental for one yaer in advance and they know that the landlord the the cunning SOB type who'll use their furniture to either rent out the bungalow again (after the one year) or move the furniture to his other houses etc.

A bit too much isnt it this landlord?

Lesson for the 9 tenants? Should have bought their own house instead of trusting this Landlord....

Lesson for anybody else.... dont trust this landlord!

Lesson for the friends of these tenants who used to hang out at the bungalow.....dont trust this landlord!

 

[jarance]

I think it is advisable to have Landlord A and Tenant A to have talk again to see whether the furniture can be salvaged or not.

Please consider the followings:-

1. As the furniture is of value to Tenant A, Tenant A should considered paying a fee agreeable to both parties for the salvage work.

2. I don't that think Landlord A would be consider "unreasonable" if he decide not to take the salvage work since he had already lost the tenancy but hopefully he might change his mind if somebody ask him nicely. Afterall, his reputation is at stake and not forgetting the common passion that brought both parties together in the first place.

3. Both parties should appoint an independant person to mediate during the "table talk".

4. Tenant A should not expect that the furniture to be in mint condition.

5. Landlord A should try to salvage as much of the furniture (if he decide to do so) and pack it properly (in boxes/CD) to hand it over to Tenant A. Tenant A should bring Landlord B to verify that the furniture is in order and he could install it the new bungalow.

 

[python_dev]

I think landlord A, Tenant A & landlord B should go to KTV C and get really Drunk, admit that to some degree "All" F**Ked up. shake hands and move on after following jarance's Suggestions.....

 

[popeadrian]

I think it is advisable to have Landlord A and Tenant A to have talk again to see whether the furniture can be salvaged or not.

Please consider the followings:-

1. As the furniture is of value to Tenant A, Tenant A should considered paying a fee agreeable to both parties for the salvage work.

2. I don't that think Landlord A would be consider "unreasonable" if he decide not to take the salvage work since he had already lost the tenancy but hopefully he might change his mind if somebody ask him nicely. Afterall, his reputation is at stake and not forgetting the common passion that brought both parties together in the first place.

3. Both parties should appoint an independant person to mediate during the "table talk".

4. Tenant A should not expect that the furniture to be in mint condition.

5. Landlord A should try to salvage as much of the furniture (if he decide to do so) and pack it properly (in boxes/CD) to hand it over to Tenant A. Tenant A should bring Landlord B to verify that the furniture is in order and he could install it the new bungalow.

I think landlord A, Tenant A & landlord B should go to KTV C and get really Drunk, admit that to some degree "All" F**Ked up. shake hands and move on after following jarance's Suggestions.....

Yeahlor...but what to do? Whenever Tenant A askd Landlord A for chit-chat, Landlord A always has an excuse...PS3 game more interestinglah, got thislah, got thatlah....then end up not even taking phonecalls from the tenants.

Seelah how it goes....Tenant A just wants the furniture back to move into LAndlord B's bungalow without Landlord A claiming the furniture is his or attempting to swipe some (if not all) of the furniture. :smokin: