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[Tom]

I have been a participant of this forum for more than 3 yrs now and have just hit 500 posts. I have been a very regular visitor and contributor to the discussions that interest me.

Over the years, I have noticed that most of the advertisements on the website are linked to US based websites which I have never heard of.

There are hardly any local companies advertising on the website.

How are these foreign advertisements procured and who earns the revenue on these advertisements?

Is the revenue ploughed back to the club?

Does the club own the website?

If not, who has proprietory rights to the website?

Well most of us are happy to enjoy access to the website(including myself), I am just curious as to the above.

I hope someone can enlighten me as to my queries above.

Cheers. Have a good weekend!

Hi to the topic starter and to all who have shown considerable amount of interest and curiousity towards who owns what, how much money is in it and where the money goes to.

There are just too many replies to the topic, some relevant others probably not, some genuinely out of curiousity and i hope others are. To satisfy your need to know, here are some words of mine.

Firstly, some years ago the whole BMW club thing formed by this guy named Chester which was created through the establishment of a website named BMWCLUB.COM.MY. After significant interest shown, a committee was formed and with early registered users of the built-in community forums the whole thing was headed for ROS and for a couple of years, things went on.

There were problems with the initial website so a complete revamp was needed. I was contacted to take on the challenge. Being an avid participant of the BMWCLUB.COM.MY forums, it was my pleasure to accept the job.

Due to the early stages of the club's establishments, it was not feasible due to costs and the immediate need to erect this completely new website to discuss about who will pay for what to build this new website.

As the owner of a local automotive website Zerotohundred.com it wasn't tough to adopt a sister site. The then unofficial BMWClub of Malaysia and I promptly decided that Zerotohundred.com will take on all costs of building the new site which will be registered BMWCLUBMALAYSIA.COM

The revenue generated from BMWCLUBMALAYSIA.COM will subsidise for the cost of adopting this project until further discussion.

This relationship has been the way it is since then till today. BMWClub Malaysia still owns the domain name BMWCLUBMALAYSIA.COM

If you are curious about the ads displayed on these pages, please go to:
http://www.google.com/adsense
http://www.kontera.com

I was told that there were certain speculation about the money generated amounting to tens of thousands dollars monthly going into the pockets of one person or company. whether or not that there's an obligation to disclose the figures from web advertisement publicly still needs to be determined for now and the fact that since the "revenue" generated actually only subsidizes the cost of running the website.

I am not the best in the web industry but I do have a portfolio. To generate revenue there has to be a product. in this case, the bmwclubmalaysia.com website. To generate substantial revenue you need statistics. In comparison, bmwclubmalaysia.com is really small. Actually making money? I guess a professional blogger is probably would be able to confirm that fact.

So, if you need to contribute to the topic on the issue of in depth details, statistics and revenue please only do so with a good amount of research and certain knowledge of the web. If not, please just keep them as only questions rather than statements.

On the issue of Official club membership, please only subscribe if you like the benefits stated WHETHER directly beneficial to you monetarily or novelty-ly.

In this case, the product describes it's feature. If you don't find it being worth your while, why don't you leave it on the shelve? Don't you think it's pretty childish to be continously questioning why doesn't it include this or that?

Please excuse my post if it's too short. I will continue this when i get back to the office with a fully charged notebook.

 

[redbaron]

Well done DD and Tom. After this still dont understand me dont know what else to say la.

 

[ICEMAN 68]

1.President: E46fanatic
2.V.President: Astroboy
3. Bendehari: Anxious

I will pay this people membership because this people all very the pandai. So they can do what they talk and then we see cakap serupa bikin or cakap but no go.I think all the offical member will agree.

RB i totally agree with you...hu hu hu hu

defa ho ...

 

[redbaron]

Bala boltha na. Hun theka kie keru ga. The under cover language is out.

 

[cppeng]

I Always Tell My Stuff That " Its Not What The Company Can Do For U But What U Can Do For The Company" Same Applies To Bmw Club " Its Not What The Club Can Do For U But What U Can Do For The Club"

 

[8080pbmw]

thanks for the detail reply DD and TOM.

what I'll like to say is I was comtemplating to actually pay to join the club too but was put back as I think most goodies are presently catering towards KL boys ( which I believe where most of the members are ). I believe if more goodies can be made available to potential members in other state, the number of official members will surely increase.
I do enjoy the forum for it's great source of knowledge and passion towards the marque. but to actually pay to join, I'll like to see more goodies that can attract forumer like myself in Penang and other states to join.
I remember being the only "member" to come down from Penang to join the 2006 annual dinner. the goodies given out during the dinner are mostly cater towards the interest on KL boys. But I did had a good time nevertheless with the theme "night at the movies".
More discount on car care products, accessories, parts...etc that all members through out Malaysia and all enjoy would be a good start.
just my 2 cents(I know I am not an official member but I share the same passion to the club as well)

 

[E46Fanatic]

1.President: E46fanatic
2.V.President: Astroboy
3. Bendehari: Anxious

I will pay this people membership because this people all very the pandai. So they can do what they talk and then we see cakap serupa bikin or cakap but no go.I think all the offical member will agree.

RB,

I don't know you, but I find you to be a rather hostile person. My comments were never any sort of personal attack on anyone and instead based on what I believe works or not. I've been around in this community since Chester days, and never wish or would want to run for committee due to the lack of time on my part, and I've never voiced that I wanted to. But hey if you want to pay my membership fees together with the other 2 names above, by all means go ahead. I have no complaints . Like you said some people only talk and no action....

 

[bmchai]

if paid member complain = constructive criticism,
if forummer complain = shit stirrer?

aiyah, those who want to pay to be exclusive & certified member, pay lor....

for those who like me, dont want to pay, but just want to read the forum & sometimes posts anything relevant to their rides, continue the same la.
of course, this is until they say only paid members can post & access the threads, then we all go join whatever splinter bmw forum there is elsewhere!
in the meantime, no one is forcing us to pay, right?

BTW, if mr red baron would like to pay for my membership as well, I dont mind.....thanks in advance

 

[jarance]

thanks for the detail reply DD and TOM.

what I'll like to say is I was comtemplating to actually pay to join the club too but was put back as I think most goodies are presently catering towards KL boys ( which I believe where most of the members are ). I believe if more goodies can be made available to potential members in other state, the number of official members will surely increase.
I do enjoy the forum for it's great source of knowledge and passion towards the marque. but to actually pay to join, I'll like to see more goodies that can attract forumer like myself in Penang and other states to join.
I remember being the only "member" to come down from Penang to join the 2006 annual dinner. the goodies given out during the dinner are mostly cater towards the interest on KL boys. But I did had a good time nevertheless with the theme "night at the movies".
More discount on car care products, accessories, parts...etc that all members through out Malaysia and all enjoy would be a good start.
just my 2 cents(I know I am not an official member but I share the same passion to the club as well)

Yes, you are right. This is because majority of the members are also situated around Klang valley.

There is a Northern drive initiated by planta and some penang kia. You guys can formed the Northern chapter. The leaders will be selected among the members up
north and the central region will acknownledge whoever you choose. They will act liason officer between us (central) for meetup, drives, collection and distribution of goodies.

There are so many things that can be done and it will need alot of hard work and dedication and time.

I would to inform most of the "discount" are usually effort arrange by forummer and members as well. for eg. One of the member arranged to have HRC give discount on all F&B, etc whenever we present the official membership card.

Most of the time, the club deal with corporate sponsor such as BMW Malaysia, AB, Sapura, Kurnia Insurance, Citybank etc.. and they usually will deal with you only if you have official status with ROS etc..

 

[jarance]

bmchai.. long time no hear.. how the papaya business doing???

 

[8080pbmw]

There is a Northern drive initiated by planta and some penang kia. You guys can formed the Northern chapter. The leaders will be selected among the members up
north and the central region will acknownledge whoever you choose. They will act liason officer between us (central) for meetup, drives, collection and distribution of goodies.

I have been active before but nowadays work and family has taken most of my time. As for the "leader/president" thing, I have seen many people taken up this "heavy" responsibility and after sometime would just "give up" and then MIA.
I remember Sir Anthony , Datuk Hartge , Taiko ACE and Datuk Amir@PGF .... now they are no longer around.
I remember those days when TT was once every two weeks with "member" just talk about UDM and then someone would suggest we go to some lonely long and straight industrial road to have some friendly 0 to 400m. :rock:

As for the official membership, I'll have to check up with those in Penang that have already joined. Cheers.

 

[redbaron]

RB,

I don't know you, but I find you to be a rather hostile person. My comments were never any sort of personal attack on anyone and instead based on what I believe works or not. I've been around in this community since Chester days, and never wish or would want to run for committee due to the lack of time on my part, and I've never voiced that I wanted to. But hey if you want to pay my membership fees together with the other 2 names above, by all means go ahead. I have no complaints . Like you said some people only talk and no action....

Paying no problem but can you deliver what you had said bro.
I am only hostile to people are hostile to me.You have not meet up with me so you would't now.If dont have the time then dont complaint so much la.Whether you are here since chester time so !So if you can deliver what you have complaint, not only alot of members from north to south are willing to pay your membership. So can deliver or not bro.
Than we know are you the type talk with action or talk only and full of hot air.

 

[redbaron]

I have been active before but nowadays work and family has taken most of my time. As for the "leader/president" thing, I have seen many people taken up this "heavy" responsibility and after sometime would just "give up" and then MIA.
I remember Sir Anthony , Datuk Hartge , Taiko ACE and Datuk Amir@PGF .... now they are no longer around.
I remember those days when TT was once every two weeks with "member" just talk about UDM and then someone would suggest we go to some lonely long and straight industrial road to have some friendly 0 to 400m. :rock:

As for the official membership, I'll have to check up with those in Penang that have already joined. Cheers.

Things change bro . Any way regarding for membership yuo can check with acidburn bro.

 

[astroboy]

Ini semua out of topic punya posting... mana moderator... kasi warning semua.. Kalau tak dengar, semua kasi ban..

Cabut..

 

[David Yong]

Ai yoh.... why all the wordings from RB are BIG BIG one arr ??? More easy to read ??

 

[Daredevil]

I believe Tom & myself have given our explanation on the core enquiry of this thread. Just to recap:

1) This forum DOES belong to the club. At the moment, only the Guardian is looking after it while awaiting formal transfer of ownership. It is an unconditional transfer.

2) Tom will put forward a detail explanation pertaining to revenue generated via Google Ads to the official members in the next AGM.

3) The founding members and current committee has not and WILL not be making a single cent from activities related to this forum or club.

Hope this clears the air. I hope we will all stay on track. Kindly do not be hostile to one another as it'll lead us no where. This thread will be closed shortly. :top:

 

[E46Fanatic]

RB,

Sigh, I never said I'll deliver anything. Please re-read my post. But you DID say you were going to pay for 3 persons membership LOL. So, let everyone judge who is the one talking without action. I don't need the membership but I am curious if you were gonna follow through to what you publicly declare to everyone here hehe.

 

[astroboy]

Nope, I didn't accept his offer la. So count me out.. I think anxious also didn't accept la. So RB saved RM600..

Aiyoo... why thread belum tutup nia.... I can sense capital letters coming lio...

Cabut....

 

[redbaron]

Wa E46fanatic so fast change already is it. Why la chicken already is it . Come la take the chalange since you are so the pandai ma. I also said i will pay membership if you can deliver what you said if cannot than for what. When you complaint meeans you can do better job what why now change of mind la.

 

[redbaron]

Ai yoh.... why all the wordings from RB are BIG BIG one arr ??? More easy to read ??

So easy for E46fanatic ayam to read.