How are your 320d doing so far?

[docrayboy]

as a matter of fact i do doc. Is that a real doc or dog? i mean, you are so foul mouthed you cant be a real doc can u? A real disgrace to the BMW marque i think. If u can speak with proper English grammar then we might have a meaningful discussion about the subject matter which you seem to avoid at all costs. In the meantime google up manners.

Avoid all the beans you want, bimmerdude and don't fart out CO2 into the environment (ha ha, you admit avoiding beans!). You still stink like shit.

 

[Maniac]

...I dont give a shits ass about its dyno performance, i am more concerned with its environmental performance.

fact:
if you are concerned for the environment, diesel engines emit lower CO2 emissions per km travelled, one of the major greenhouse gasses.
on the bmw tech sheets, the 320d is officially 140 g/km vs the 320i at 182 g/km.
the 6 cylinder petrol 3-ers come in at 200 g/km.

 

[kuntakinte]

thank you

The pleasure was really all mine cos u gave me a good laugh. Was looking forward to a constructive exchange but defending your argument of detuned engines with 'environmental performance'???

Bro, this may shock you but switching off electricity for 60 mins during earth hour hardly qualifies one as environmentally friendly

Dude, ditch ur bimmer. Get a hybrid but before that, you may wish to consider getting a life first.

 

[bimmerdude]

fact:
if you are concerned for the environment, diesel engines emit lower CO2 emissions per km travelled, one of the major greenhouse gasses.
on the bmw tech sheets, the 320d is officially 140 g/km vs the 320i at 182 g/km.
the 6 cylinder petrol 3-ers come in at 200 g/km.

if u care to read my post properly, i am talking about sulphur emissions. not CO2. i already fart enough CO2 to be worried about it. Google Sulphur emissions. And dont compare to the 320i . That has nothing to do with our discussion.

 

[bimmerdude]

The pleasure was really all mine cos u gave me a good laugh. Was looking forward to a constructive exchange but defending your argument of detuned engines with 'environmental performance'???

Bro, this may shock you but switching off electricity for 60 mins during earth hour hardly qualifies one as environmentally friendly

Dude, ditch ur bimmer. Get a hybrid but before that, you may wish to consider getting a life first.

u dieselheads are really a joke. Get a life bro, its just a car. Lots of better, more powerful diesels than ur entry level 4 potter. And as a matter of fact, switching off electricity does do some good for the environment. Go read up some more, cos u might learn something. How old are you anyway, 14?

 

[docrayboy]

chill lah everybody

 

[kuntakinte]

u dieselheads are really a joke. Get a life bro, its just a car. Lots of better, more powerful diesels than ur entry level 4 potter. And as a matter of fact, switching off electricity does do some good for the environment. Go read up some more, cos u might learn something. How old are you anyway, 14?

Apparently now, detuned engines refer to sulphur emissions.

And just bcos u dont eat big macs on one occasion, you call yourself a vegan? What's the measure of your IQ anyway, 14?

No offense ya? It's the weekend n just needed some fun n to kill time while waiting for barca to kick ass

 

[docrayboy]

Man U 1, Barca 3. Before the match, I was already thinking of how the Spanish team, aka the Barca team, won the World Cup. Suddenly, you instinctively knew Man U were gonna be mowed down.

 

[Maniac]

if u care to read my post properly, i am talking about sulphur emissions. not CO2. i already fart enough CO2 to be worried about it. Google Sulphur emissions. And dont compare to the 320i . That has nothing to do with our discussion.

let's keep to the facts, shall we? cos they don't lie. here's a simple summary of the european emission standards for passenger cars (you can google it too).

let's us 14-year olds play "find the sulphur emission standard"!

why so sensitive on the 320i? facts are facts la. comparisons were also made against the 6 potters too.

 

[paultantk]

I'm getting more and more can't be bothered to post in this forum. It's getting very tiring debating this issue out.

There are so many people who are curiously very strongly anti-diesel, and will refuse any explanations or owner experiences and still insist diesel cars are compromised in Malaysia, and will result to insulting you when pushed into a corner. First talk about performance, then detuned, then suddenly say not power/torque performance but environmental performance, "sulphur emissions", what else?

This anti-diesel thing has been confined to the 320d threads so far but it has even creeped into the 520d thread. Talking about bad resale value, and quoting used car dealers as source! What on earth... used car dealers will spread rumours about diesel cars trade in value being bad so they can take in your trade in car at 60k and do abit of paint touch up and sell it at 130k, and then flip it around their attitude to tell the customer who is looking to buy it that euro2 is here now and diesel car got no problem. Disgusting two faced snakes... these salesman.

Think logically, why would ANYONE listen to used car dealers or even showroom salesmen when the best and most reliable source is owners? Do you really think if we are having such a bad time with our diesel cars, we would not go all out to shout and scream at BMW Malaysia and all over the internet about it, like the owners of the 35i engines who had problems with high pressure fuel pump?

Old diesel cars that ran on MS123 had problems, i DONT deny that. but the 320d has been around for so long and it was launched after euro2m was available, and there are no issues. even the local Peugeot frenchman representative is driving a latest model peugeot diesel in malaysia and he is personally a strong proponent for peugeot to introduce diesel cars here. they've sent our euro2m diesel to france for testing and from what i hear the results are our diesel are not as bad as people thought it was. we'll probably have access to the peugeot 3008 diesel hybrid4 soon.

think about it guys, what causes cars to have low resale value? things like alot of problem, lack of parts, low demand play a part, fear of lousy fuel. does the 320d have these qualities? NO! it's high in demand, there's no problems, the fuel runs fine, etc. why would you go around saying the 320d has low resale value?

if the 320d ends up having low resale value, it would only be because people are going around saying it has low resale value, thus becoming a self fulfilling prophecy, but without any real reason.

"dont buy 320d, no value one"
"oh... how come ah? alot of problems wan ah?"
"no la... no problem so far... just no value la..."
"but.... why no value leh?"
"i dunno la, my uncle aunty cousin father mother brother say wan..."
"oh... family member sure dont bluff u wan la... must be true, btw, where they hear from ah? do they have a diesel car?"
"no la... they hear from their step brother's sister in law's cousin etc etc etc wan..."
"ohhhh... like that..."

bmw owners who have the buying power that they have should be able to think things through logically

 

[docrayboy]

Optimus 'Paul Tan' Prime on the case!

 

[docrayboy]

I'm getting more and more can't be bothered to post in this forum. It's getting very tiring debating this issue out.

There are so many people who are curiously very strongly anti-diesel, and will refuse any explanations or owner experiences and still insist diesel cars are compromised in Malaysia, and will result to insulting you when pushed into a corner. First talk about performance, then detuned, then suddenly say not power/torque performance but environmental performance, "sulphur emissions", what else?

This anti-diesel thing has been confined to the 320d threads so far but it has even creeped into the 520d thread. Talking about bad resale value, and quoting used car dealers as source! What on earth... used car dealers will spread rumours about diesel cars trade in value being bad so they can take in your trade in car at 60k and do abit of paint touch up and sell it at 130k, and then flip it around their attitude to tell the customer who is looking to buy it that euro2 is here now and diesel car got no problem. Disgusting two faced snakes... these salesman.

Think logically, why would ANYONE listen to used car dealers or even showroom salesmen when the best and most reliable source is owners? Do you really think if we are having such a bad time with our diesel cars, we would not go all out to shout and scream at BMW Malaysia and all over the internet about it, like the owners of the 35i engines who had problems with high pressure fuel pump?

Old diesel cars that ran on MS123 had problems, i DONT deny that. but the 320d has been around for so long and it was launched after euro2m was available, and there are no issues. even the local Peugeot frenchman representative is driving a latest model peugeot diesel in malaysia and he is personally a strong proponent for peugeot to introduce diesel cars here. they've sent our euro2m diesel to france for testing and from what i hear the results are our diesel are not as bad as people thought it was. we'll probably have access to the peugeot 3008 diesel hybrid4 soon.

think about it guys, what causes cars to have low resale value? things like alot of problem, lack of parts, low demand play a part, fear of lousy fuel. does the 320d have these qualities? NO! it's high in demand, there's no problems, the fuel runs fine, etc. why would you go around saying the 320d has low resale value?

if the 320d ends up having low resale value, it would only be because people are going around saying it has low resale value, thus becoming a self fulfilling prophecy, but without any real reason.

"dont buy 320d, no value one"
"oh... how come ah? alot of problems wan ah?"
"no la... no problem so far... just no value la..."
"but.... why no value leh?"
"i dunno la, my uncle aunty cousin father mother brother say wan..."
"oh... family member sure dont bluff u wan la... must be true, btw, where they hear from ah? do they have a diesel car?"
"no la... they hear from their step brother's sister in law's cousin etc etc etc wan..."
"ohhhh... like that..."

bmw owners who have the buying power that they have should be able to think things through logically

Another diesel-fearing bigot! Wat to do?..cousin, nephew, mother-in-law, granduncle, grandaunty said so lah,....and best-friend-don't-betray his-name-sales-man......said so...maybe give him free 3M tint when buy next car after I tell him I didn't betray his name to Mr Briscoe when he told me he put diesels resale value down ower similar petrol car ...another kiasu calculating bigot....

 

[docrayboy]

Oh...oh...its not CO2 ....its sulphur...and its not diesel...cars or fuel...its Malaysian 320d...undertuned and entry level only!........if 335d of course I straight away buy mah, you know me......oh..oh...if ...if Euro 4 diesel, where I don't like mah?.....oh, oh, you diesel brigade make me so upset I fart more CO2 into the enviloment even I don't eat beans.....I so enviloment consious....I where got kiasu one???...I just calculative a bit mah...and of course must listen to relatives mah...if don't then they don't call me and don't invite me to their house or go out to makan......then go hungry, how can, mah?

 

[paultantk]

it's funny when people say the 320d/520d engine is "entry level". at least it's the same thing that the europeans are enjoying, while for the petrol normally aspirated engines we continue to use the n52 while europe has moved on to the n53.

 

[ashman55]

Agree with paultantk that the salespersons are two faces snake.Two dealers told me its was no difference the trade in price for my m sport when i know very well they will say to the potential buyer that you have to pay RM 10k more because this is sport version.I bought from 3rd dealer because i was so pissed off by the blantant dishonest..Back to the diesel thing,don't be so heated lah.we are in this forum because of our love for anything BMW.sori if i said it wrongly..

 

[DKNY]

u dieselheads are really a joke. Get a life bro, its just a car. Lots of better, more powerful diesels than ur entry level 4 potter. And as a matter of fact, switching off electricity does do some good for the environment. Go read up some more, cos u might learn something. How old are you anyway, 14?

I do agree that switching off the lights for 60 mins does some good, but the publicity and ding dong who rant about it and using the internet to broadcast to the world to reaffirm its goodness literarily does more damage as we eat up so much of electricity just reading his earthworld justification on the internet.

I also do agree that there are more powerful diesel than the 4 potter entry but what's your point?? There isn;t a universally no 1 car in the market. Even the no 1 car seller do get de throne from time to time as its base on marketing strategy and so forth.

Let's not forget this is a 320d thread, we are allowed to rant and make superficial remarks otherwise why would we have bought it in the 1st place.

 

[DKNY]

If u can speak with proper English grammar then we might have a meaningful discussion about the subject matter which you seem to avoid at all costs. In the meantime google up manners.

Dude, I would understand if one would to ask another to speak with the correct English Grammar but what do you mean by proper grammar?? Mind you there are so many version of English, please indicate which English language you wish us forumers to use and mind you no French please.

 

[haywire]

Hey lets have a constructive discussion here in the forum, and be less hostile to others. Everyone have their own belief and foothold, no matter what you say and he say nobody will really give in that easily. Some like diesel and some like petrol, just leave it at that. If it was me I'd have both petrol and diesel cars, each have their own advantages.

 

[JoyClub]

About 20k on the clock. Pre owned so I covered about half of it. Change the rear lights, sent in twice to get the door trims so stop it from squeaking, engine stalled once but so far so good, still figuring out the town diesel consumption. City center driving still getting 10.5 liters. which works out to about 650km per tanks. Sent in for diagnostic but yet to get the feedback.

Other than that have yet to check the rear tires for wear and tear. Other than that counting the days till I can own an X6. Its like 1500 days away. Waiting for it to go under 200k

Had my 320d for ~10months now. So far so good. Glenmarie AB fixed squeaking noise and changed faulty rear turning indicator lights last week during service. Still getting about 7.6l/100km. Now mileage about 36k. Need to start worrying about balding tyres.

 

[DKNY]

Had my 320d for ~10months now. So far so good. Glenmarie AB fixed squeaking noise and changed faulty rear turning indicator lights last week during service. Still getting about 7.6l/100km. Now mileage about 36k. Need to start worrying about balding tyres.

Wow 36k?? How many mm has it wear down to?? The rule of thumb is to have a minimum 2mm thickness of groove or thread.

As I also drive a pickup and my tires actually can go for 100k and the thread is still so thick. My last pair of 4x4 tyres wore out at 120k km. Can;t they built em tires to at least half of the 4x4 pickup lifespan?? It was scary at first going on my first pair until 85k and I decided to discart em but eventually after many years of changing em tires I find no drop in road handling even at 100k. 110k degradation starts to set in fast.