Help - JPJ Demerit Points - Kejara

[m-sports]

Received "Notis Tunjuk Sebab" from JPJ Kejara.. Only two speeding offences have accumulated 16 demerit points. I was asked to write-in to self-defense the offences within 14 days failing which JPJ would impound my driving license for not more than 12 months I never think of JPJ is really enforcing the Kejara Demerit Points System since I have more than 20 unpaid speed trap samans since many years ago but i still manage to renew my driving license till now. I noticed that those saman received, signed on the spot yet paid will be considered as admitting the offence therefore demerit points applied.. Please share your experience if have ever received this "Notis Tunjuk Sebab" and what are the reasons (excuses) to appeal and self-defense when replying to JPJ. What is the action taken by JPJ after considering your appeal? Your input is much appreciated before I reply to JPJ...p/s: For those who have received traffic samans, take good care of your demerit points before you end-up like me.....

 

[LCP]

Speeding is 6, 8 or 10 points per offence, depending on how much above the speed limit. Once upon a time (many years ago), my points reached 12 once, but have since diminished to zero. They will write off 7 points every two years for "good behaviour"... I think back in 2004 (already dropped to zero points then), I was summoned for an illegal u-turn, I paid the RM70 summon and promptly my points went up to 5. And last year, after a 2-year clean period, the points went back to zero again.

Back to the "show cause" letter... I guess you were unlucky to have been randomly picked by JPJ, either that or they have upgraded their Kejara computer system to be more efficient, or maybe somehow finally got it to work. I think the first offence (of above 15 points) should just be 6 months suspension, but if they stated 12 months it could have been the 2nd time you have breached the 15 points mark... Get a lawyer to help you out...

 

[sesat88]

hmmm... i also interested to know.. kekekek

 

[m-sports]

Speeding is 6, 8 or 10 points per offence, depending on how much above the speed limit. Once upon a time (many years ago), my points reached 12 once, but have since diminished to zero. They will write off 7 points every two years for "good behaviour"... I think back in 2004 (already dropped to zero points then), I was summoned for an illegal u-turn, I paid the RM70 summon and promptly my points went up to 5. And last year, after a 2-year clean period, the points went back to zero again.

Back to the "show cause" letter... I guess you were unlucky to have been randomly picked by JPJ, either that or they have upgraded their Kejara computer system to be more efficient, or maybe somehow finally got it to work. I think the first offence (of above 15 points) should just be 6 months suspension, but if they stated 12 months it could have been the 2nd time you have breached the 15 points mark... Get a lawyer to help you out...

Hi LCP,

You're absolutely right.. No wonder there is statement of " balance demerit points is after deduction of 7 bonus points" within the letter from JPJ perhaps I have breached the 15 points mark for 2nd time. I got now 2 offences, one added6 points (speeding 1~25km/h) and another 10 points (speeding > 40km/h).. I'm sure the system works superb efficiently now cause my second offence happened on March 2007 and they updated my saman paid on April 2007.. Now i'm straching my head what to tell in my reply to JPJ to avoid my license to be suspended for 12 months.. OMG.... 3rd time will suspend license forever... then can hire "AHMAD'" liao....

 

[mafia1118]

Kejara JPJ

This randomly pick from the system. now u huv to think to give the concrete reason, on h two summon. then promise u will not repeat the offence. ensure u 'r accepting ur offences then let them consider.

 

[pussy]

what bullshit.. the computer on JPJ does not randomly pick and decide who to send..

the kejara points is on the speed offence is within a year, you above the 15 points, lands you with a show cause letter why should you be suspended for 12 or 18 months.

i received my show cause letter last year november with 2 days left to reply. my points ? 24 with 3 summons paid on within the compounding period given, now where is the 'saya anti-rasuah' i followed.. shit, should haved paid and dun face this stressing out shit..

quickly did a stupid letter that's convincing to JPJ, wrote to them, hand deliverd to them in Putrajaya, (each case is handed by a officer).. after 1 week, was given the verdict of 1 month full suspension and 0 kejara points after that..

now waiting to handover my license to jpj...

M-Sports.. sorry no way out.. and you better reply to their letter..if not 12 months.. mine was 18 months..

regards.

 

[syahruln]

aiyoh, no wonder aa my jpj fren told me to bring a lot of IC & driving licenses when paying a lot of summons... papa's, mama's, brothers, wife, pets etc so that the points will split among those. If only bring yours, ahhh... you get the all bonus points la :O

 

[535i]

Meow - what if we use our international license.

JPJ compund our Mesia's license, but we still drive using our International one.
'legally' it's ok , right ?

 

[m-sports]

what bullshit.. the computer on JPJ does not randomly pick and decide who to send..

the kejara points is on the speed offence is within a year, you above the 15 points, lands you with a show cause letter why should you be suspended for 12 or 18 months.

i received my show cause letter last year november with 2 days left to reply. my points ? 24 with 3 summons paid on within the compounding period given, now where is the 'saya anti-rasuah' i followed.. shit, should haved paid and dun face this stressing out shit..

quickly did a stupid letter that's convincing to JPJ, wrote to them, hand deliverd to them in Putrajaya, (each case is handed by a officer).. after 1 week, was given the verdict of 1 month full suspension and 0 kejara points after that..

now waiting to handover my license to jpj...

M-Sports.. sorry no way out.. and you better reply to their letter..if not 12 months.. mine was 18 months..

regards.

Hi bro Pussy,

Thanks for your input.. Seems we are on the same boat now.. Wanna share an "AHMAD" during the suspended period ar..?? ahahahaa.. Now was wondering whether the JPJ officer wearing a "Anti Rasuah" badge or not... What was the "excuses" you written hah...?

 

[ah lian]

so, what's the solution??
not pay the samans within the same period?? or divide them??

 

[pussy]

on the saman ekor, it's not shown in the kejara points.. it's was the OCPD at where i was caught speeding that wrote in.. somemore i was saman during an big operation.. no way out.. at 220km/h.. ouch.. but they wrote in the saman for 180 km/h cos anything above that speed , your license is suspended immediately or they procecute you for reckless driving..

M-sports.. no way out.. do the letter quickly and go and see them, they will be happy to help you..

my reason ? was rushing to fly off to singapore due the flight was cancelled from alor star.. good one eh ?

best of luck..

 

[m-sports]

so, what's the solution??
not pay the samans within the same period?? or divide them??

Make sure you pay within the period coz payment date is stated in the "show cause" letter. At least both of us admitted the offence and paid the samans within the compounding period.. Hope it could be one merit point when appealing.. Imagine if you make offence by signing samans yet you never paid, hmmm.... you still want to appeal ah..??? I think a bit tough for the officer to justify lor.. Then you prepare for 12 months driving without license lar.. Maybe bro Pussy can share with us later his one month driving experience without license (and perhaps me too @#$%$#).....

I don't think we can divide it coz saman issued with your details and you signed it...

 

[ah lian]

when you get stopped at the road block, can one not sign it? i.e. ask for proof? want them to send the saman??

 

[m-sports]

I tried tat... police then say if you don't sign, he will isuue second saman for not cooperative......means forced to sign..

 

[LCP]

The JPJ Kejara points will only go up after you have paid the summonses, regardless whether saman ekor or road block/stopped by cops summons... by paying it means that you are admitting to the offences. That is why there is a column for you to put the driver name there for that offence, if you leave it blank it will default to the owner of the car... hence the need for the IC and driving licenses of papa, mama, atuk, nek, abang, kak, adik, pak long, pak ngah, pak su, mak long, mak ngah, mak su, etc etc etc... Pets... nope, heh heh, they don't have driving license nor mykad....