Singapore is a 'FINE' city - Not for drivers tho'..

[jarance]

When in Rome, do what roman do lah.. this applies for Sin-kia-por.

The system there are efficient to the dot when it come to collecting money but also the service at the govt are just as good.

I used to remember when I want to settle my income tax just before I leave the country, it just took me about 1 hour to do it. Waiting time, assement and payment of any arrears all are done at just one counter.

Here in malaysia, I have to go to Jalan Duta and to be informed that the file is transfer to Shah Alam and to be informed that the file is tranfer to Klang. This kind of runaround is really frustating..

First class equipment.. third class maintainance..

Anyway back to topic.. Drive carefully in Sin.. The speed limit is very low but the highway is very wide. I tends to drive fast after a long drive on the N-S Highway.

 

[sub8sec]

i think the good thing about S'pore traffic police is that they are there to protect the general road users, rather than setting up "traps" to catch offenders.
true, most highways have low speed limit 90kph, but most people(including myself, who has been driving for >3yrs there) exceed the speed limit ~ 100 to 110kph. I was never fined for speeding on highways. They even put up warning signs near dangerous curves or accident proned areas about the presence of high speed cameras to let the drivers slow down before that stretch.
if you've been driving in S'pore often, it is very clear that most drivers will speed after they have passed the high speed cameras ! If the traffic police really want to catch these offenders, they can just easily station themselves after this stretch, but they never do that.
the point is ... they warn drivers to be careful on dangerous areas, and expect the drivers to be responsible enough on the rest of the journey.
Having said that, they also fine people heavily when speeding on small trunk roads where it is far more dangerous to other users - my friend was fined S$3K and slap with 12 demerit points for speeding on Woodlands road.

Look at Germany, where the highway has no speed limit and the accident rate/vehicle is many times lower than M'sia ! It all boils down to the attitude of the road users.

 

[beemaro]

I was told Spore TP ambush for speed traps etc lagi hebat

because they have to hit target for promotion.

 

[beemaro]

And becareful of driving in SG.

The driving skill of the locals there not so good wan. They dont know whats around them, can suddenly turn.

Especially so for the red plate drivers. (off peak cars)

 

[Rainracer]

SG traffic monitor system is really comprehensive. I accidentally went into their ERP area before they implemented the flat fee and was stopped later at the customs. Have to settle the "Fine" first before I can leave. Oh yeah....if you have no money, they take credit cards too!???!! As for the police, they used to drive UDMs, but nowadays they got their special tune police WRXs waiting along the highways for any challengers. Plus they have the robotic camera thingy along major highways. And they have so many traffic monitoring cameras on top of the light posts that if they wanted, they can do a time, distance, speed, calculation to see if cars are speeding. Damn.....not a good place for the brave hearted!!!!

 

[theCROW]

couldn't agree more with sub8sec
but here, is not just attitude but also the road quality, roadsigns, law enforcer etc.

beemaro,
for me their driving skill just normal only but i'm not saying they are all perfect, i feel safe while driving on their road compare on my own soils.

 

[Zoggee]

when do you wanna try??

I drive his GTi...you pay the fines. can ah???

 

[sub8sec]

I was told Spore TP ambush for speed traps etc lagi hebat

because they have to hit target for promotion.

I know for a fact the parking attendants at public carparks uses this "hitting quota" system, to fine those with no parking coupons or exceeded the time limit, but never heard of the TP doing this.
but i've to agree - they're super efficient when it comes to fine

 

[jsen]

well, i find tat they have a very systematic traffic rules n thus, everyone is paying real attention to it... i never seen any sg with fancy numbers plates.. all macam standard je.. their traffic info is top notch, very well explained the incidents on the traffic ahead, advising which lane to avoid( they do numbered their lanes 1, 2,3, 4). this i find it veli useful. mafia tinting black also very little.

normally, the permitted speed 90 but u can exceed 10km/h, which i always did .. if got chance, must see how they tolerate those pedestrian crossiing the road, never sounded a horn at all, very courteous instead.!. imagine here in msia, either foul words or middle fingers alredy kasi!!..

really like their ERP system, forget bout collecting tolls anymore! yup, n their police patrol cars are WRX, gila sial!!.n their policemen are all wellpaid, never induce in giving kopi money!or else, 10 life also not enuff for u to die!!.

lastly, however, any drivers arrive in MSIA, all jadi syaitan.. try experience it on the causeway, u will know..!!! memang kiasu... issh..

 

[ah lian]

another reason not to speed on the major highways...

the road may be wide and seemingly straight... but can be treacherous.

a serious accident happened today on the AYE near clementi ave6 exit heading towards jurong. a small silver car was crushed beyond recognition right in the middle of the AYE. the car looked like it was imported by a hurricane and dropped from the skies. the police had arrived and was holding plastic sheets to shield away onlookers while someone else tried to pull the driver out. horrific even to imagine. standstill tailbacks all the way to portsdown exit.

i have been in stinkapoos for less than a year, but i have seen more accidents than the last 5 years in kl. many of these accidents are fatal assumed from covered bodies and roadside notice boards asking for witnesses. i guess that's why there are speed limits.

 

[beemaro]

couldn't agree more with sub8sec
but here, is not just attitude but also the road quality, roadsigns, law enforcer etc.

beemaro,
for me their driving skill just normal only but i'm not saying they are all perfect, i feel safe while driving on their road compare on my own soils.

Of course la driving bet 50-90kmh and no road bully and perfect road conditions.

 

[beemaro]

another reason not to speed on the major highways...

the road may be wide and seemingly straight... but can be treacherous.

a serious accident happened today on the AYE near clementi ave6 exit heading towards jurong. a small silver car was crushed beyond recognition right in the middle of the AYE. the car looked like it was imported by a hurricane and dropped from the skies. the police had arrived and was holding plastic sheets to shield away onlookers while someone else tried to pull the driver out. horrific even to imagine. standstill tailbacks all the way to portsdown exit.

i have been in stinkapoos for less than a year, but i have seen more accidents than the last 5 years in kl. many of these accidents are fatal assumed from covered bodies and roadside notice boards asking for witnesses. i guess that's why there are speed limits.

Yes, exactly to witness the situation you must have resided there. Out look fr outside is very good.

Yes, I hav also seen so many "silly" accidents given their road conditions and fact that the oldest car on the road is not more than 5 yrs old. Hence I hav said their driving skills is really teruk. In SEA, I think Sporeans are the worst drivers.

 

[beemaro]

well, i find tat they have a very systematic traffic rules n thus, everyone is paying real attention to it... i never seen any sg with fancy numbers plates.. all macam standard je.. their traffic info is top notch, very well explained the incidents on the traffic ahead, advising which lane to avoid( they do numbered their lanes 1, 2,3, 4). this i find it veli useful. mafia tinting black also very little.

normally, the permitted speed 90 but u can exceed 10km/h, which i always did .. if got chance, must see how they tolerate those pedestrian crossiing the road, never sounded a horn at all, very courteous instead.!. imagine here in msia, either foul words or middle fingers alredy kasi!!..

really like their ERP system, forget bout collecting tolls anymore! yup, n their police patrol cars are WRX, gila sial!!.n their policemen are all wellpaid, never induce in giving kopi money!or else, 10 life also not enuff for u to die!!.

lastly, however, any drivers arrive in MSIA, all jadi syaitan.. try experience it on the causeway, u will know..!!! memang kiasu... issh..

If you middle finger people, can go to Balai. Its all because law and regulations bro. And if you langgar a pedestrian, expect yr license to be gantung.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

If you middle finger people, can go to Balai. Its all because law and regulations bro. And if you langgar a pedestrian, expect yr license to be gantung.

We need thousands of laws and regulations to "straighten up" an Asian nation where courtesy and cleanliness are not the norm.

 

[ALBundy]

Actually the laws in Malaysia are adequate, we only need stringent law enforcement!

 

[beemaro]

We need thousands of laws and regulations to "straighten up" an Asian nation where courtesy and cleanliness are not the norm.

If did not interpret wrongly, u mean Sillyporeans have lots of courtesy? Then, you are gravely wrong.

Thats why Tun M is so pissed off with them.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Courtesy and cleanliness should be a natural thing, not acquired through any form of enforcement. Malaysians also need a lot of lesson in courtesy and cleanliness but at least they do not need a lesson how to smile genuinely.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

If did not interpret wrongly, u mean Sillyporeans have lots of courtesy? Then, you are gravely wrong.

Thats why Tun M is so pissed off with them.

I haven't been to Singapore for quite a while so I am not in a good position to comment. Otherwise, I might hurt my Singaporean friends unintentionally. After all, the opinion of their leader might be not the same as their citizens' opinion. What I do know is that our fellow Malaysians still find it hard to say "thank you".

 

[supergripen]

Courtesy and cleanliness should be a natural thing, not acquired through any form of enforcement. Malaysians also need a lot of lesson in courtesy and cleanliness but at least they do not need a lesson how to smile genuinely.

IMHO courtesy and cleanliness are actually a function of a few things..among others,most important are a person's upbringing,background and character.culture has very little influence as i believe all major cultures nurtures some form of courtesy and also hygiene.