New SKD F10 523i

[pswchan]

haha, i doubt the Dato Salleh will care abt your complaint
Although my F10 breakdown 3 times less than a month but the BMW after sale team don't take it seriously at all too

Then, you guys should look at the competitors' cars like I have after a very long affair with BMW. So far, zero problems after 8 months of ownership.:top:

 

[jefngkl]

merc recent design are really bad. Audi is good looking BUT does not offer a long lasting look, unless Msia sells the A5 sedan. Anyway, I was just kidding about Dato Salleh. But I do know the Sime management and will definitely launch a complain if they do not entertain my request. In my line of work, pen is mightier than sword.

 

[ben10]

R u a lawyer? can help me to write a letter? haha....

 

[jefngkl]

i am not, just an equity analyst. But i am surrounded by lawyers in my neighbourhood. I think you have a case. Ask your sales person for a meeting with his superior and lash out yr dismay. Separately, if you want to amplify the matter, i can try to get Sime Darby auto division's CEO email address for you.

 

[safri]

So Jefng, do you have a buy or sell call on Sime Sime Darby...

 

[ben10]

Some nice pic of my F10 They tow my car last 2 days and till now they still can't rectify my problem

 

[safri]

Ben, nice color. thks for sharing

 

[jefngkl]

Ben - I feel so sorry for you! I really hope I have better luck than yours (finger crossed). Yr pix is like laying a beauty to sleep without knowing the cause of death. Hope they can revive yr car back to its deserved glory.

Safri - Fundamentally, Sime Darby is a SELL bcoz it has never fail to disappoint. Past missteps include Sime Bank (RM1.8bn) in 1998 and a trading loss of RM120mn in 2008. More recently, RM2.04bn loss in the oil & gas division. BUT.... it is a GLC and PNB & EPF will not let it die. FYI from my recent meeting with management, it sounds like they are planning to relist all divisions. Who will benefit most? CIMB lah! CIMB made tonnes of money by merging it and will make more by relisting its seperate divsions. Lastly, Sime Darby has 500plus thousand hectare of plantation land, auto dealership in Msia SG HK China NZ Oz, heavy equipment (Caterpiller) dealership in the same region as auto, property, oil & gas and healthcare. Guess how much they made in FY10? RM727mn versus IOI Corp RM1.6bn while IOI has only 200plus thousand hectare of plantaion land and a smaller property land bank. On a normalized year, Sime should make RM2.5-2.9bn BUT it is still not up to par for its size.

Apologies for the long reply.

 

[X6M]

no need to apologize. thanks for the enlightenment. :top:

 

[safri]

Ben - I feel so sorry for you! I really hope I have better luck than yours (finger crossed). Yr pix is like laying a beauty to sleep without knowing the cause of death. Hope they can revive yr car back to its deserved glory.

Safri - Fundamentally, Sime Darby is a SELL bcoz it has never fail to disappoint. Past missteps include Sime Bank (RM1.8bn) in 1998 and a trading loss of RM120mn in 2008. More recently, RM2.04bn loss in the oil & gas division. BUT.... it is a GLC and PNB & EPF will not let it die. FYI from my recent meeting with management, it sounds like they are planning to relist all divisions. Who will benefit most? CIMB lah! CIMB made tonnes of money by merging it and will make more by relisting its seperate divsions. Lastly, Sime Darby has 500plus thousand hectare of plantation land, auto dealership in Msia SG HK China NZ Oz, heavy equipment (Caterpiller) dealership in the same region as auto, property, oil & gas and healthcare. Guess how much they made in FY10? RM727mn versus IOI Corp RM1.6bn while IOI has only 200plus thousand hectare of plantaion land and a smaller property land bank. On a normalized year, Sime should make RM2.5-2.9bn BUT it is still not up to par for its size.

Apologies for the long reply.

Thanks for sharing your analysis on SD, which somewhat sums up (the cause) of the recent debacle.

 

[ben10]

My friend's F10 also got the same problem like me

 

[Spaceman]

Is PML Singapore owned by SDarby too?

 

[330Ci]

"Shoddy Incompetent Mismanaged Entity"

Marques like BMW and MB service should never reach such a deplorable & crappy state when it comes to such major service issues.

Seems like local dealers are good at doing standard service intervals - by the book only .... childs play step by step

Gives the impression that CKDs are assembled by incompetent assemblers to cut production cost. But dont worry you have 5 years to haunt them for warranty

Hereon will complain less about our national car too

PS :- Ever tried writing to BMW Germany ? their standard reply would be .. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL AGENT.

 

[alpina b5]

Is PML Singapore owned by SDarby too?

Sime Darby
Malaysia - BMW/MINI/Rolls Royce/Ford/Land Rover/Alfa Romeo/Hyundai/Inokom/Hertz

Australia - Peugeot/Ssangyong

China - Guangzhou BMW MINI/Shenzhen BMW MINI/Hainan BMW MINI/Yunnan BMW MINI/Chengdu BMW MINI/Shanghai Rolls Royce/Hangzhou Rolls Royce/Hangzhou Lamborghini

Hong Kong and Macau - BMW Concessionaires (HK) Limited / Rolls-Royce Goodwood Motors Limited/Land Rover Warwick Motors Limited /Mitsubishi Universal Cars Limited /Ford Wallace Harper & Company, Limited/ Suzuki Island Motors Limited/ (Land Rover / Mitsubishi / Ford / Suzuki / Peugeot Sime Darby Motor Services Limited www.sdesc.com.hk) / BMW Concessionaires (Macau) Limited/ Ford / Peugeot / Mitsubishi / Suzuki / Land Rover Harper Eangineering (Macau) Limited

etc etc New Zealand, Thailand

http://www.simedarbymotors.com/Malaysia.aspx

conclusion we are kind of fucked up by Sime Darby unless we move to Europe

 

[ben10]

after seeing the structure, now i know y BMW Malaysia told me they can't do anything

 

[jefngkl]

Is PML Singapore owned by SDarby too?

Yes it is owned by Sime Darby but the BMW products are fully imported. While Msian BMW are either SKD or CKD to lower selling price to increase volume. FYI - SG BMW 523i is 35% more expensive than Msia and it does not have 4 zone air con, no power side mirrow and no sat nav. But has soft door close.

When Sime Darby was acquired by the Malaysian back in the 60s, it was aimed to be a Malaysian Global Champion. But now it is merely a BIG FISH in a SMALL POND. Siok sendiri with all the unnecessary advertisment (whcih cost lots of money too)!

 

[Herbert]

Regarding about the breakdowns of the new F10, I believe you guys are barking at the wrong tree. Auto-Bavaria, Ingress and the others are merely dealers and authorised service centres. The new F10 are designed, manufactured and/or assembled by local entity under stringent supervision by BMW. Obviously all the mechanics from the dealers are trained by BMW but having said that and when new cars (especially the F10) breakdowns, shouldn't we be barking at BMW Malaysia instead of Auto Bavaria (Sime Darby)??

 

[ben10]

Actually both also got after sale problem - it is almost 2 months, i still haven't get back my insurance refund from Auto Bavaria.
I pay them cash but till now i still haven't get back my $$, shud i complaint the AB too

 

[DJH]

I test drove the 523 F10 and I fell in love that instance and not too long paid the booking fee.
Now with these negative feedbacks, I do hope i dun get crap one. Otherwise i would :banghead:

 

[halow]

Ben10 ,
Any update on your F10 regarding to the front wheel issues? i think mine also have the same problem when going slow on the road bump can hear the sound edi. will send AB for a check .