new car also break down :(

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keekee

Sorry to hear your predicament! My wife's E90 320i was in the workshop (Melbourne) for warranty claim to change aircond compressor as it was spewing white dust and she was given a courtesy E92 323i for 2 days.
 
bro keekee,

really sorry for you man.

1. You should insist that Mr.Wolfgang looks into you car problem personally - screwing up continuously is not an option for BMW.
2. You should insist that a replacement car is offered
3. Your warranty on the car must be extended at no cost
4. You should insist on some form of monetary compensation for all your troubles.

Honestly, yes - there could be one or two lemons but BMW must take full responsibility! Otherwise BMW should stop selling cars.

If you need assistance please feel free to drop a PM and I'll help you draft a letter.

Cheers Bro and wishing you all the best.
 
beemerlover;322484 said:
keekee

Sorry to hear your predicament! My wife's E90 320i was in the workshop (Melbourne) for warranty claim to change aircond compressor as it was spewing white dust and she was given a courtesy E92 323i for 2 days.

may i ask whether your courtesy car got big painting on it ? mine got big letter "Sapura Auto Courtery Car" on both sides . damn stupid and ugly. Im like a free walking advertiment bill board!!
 
devilsadvocate;322487 said:
bro keekee,

really sorry for you man.

1. You should insist that Mr.Wolfgang looks into you car problem personally - screwing up continuously is not an option for BMW.
2. You should insist that a replacement car is offered
3. Your warranty on the car must be extended at no cost
4. You should insist on some form of monetary compensation for all your troubles.

Honestly, yes - there could be one or two lemons but BMW must take full responsibility! Otherwise BMW should stop selling cars.

If you need assistance please feel free to drop a PM and I'll help you draft a letter.

Cheers Bro and wishing you all the best.

1)yeah i have already email Mr.Wolfgang and waiting for his reply. The first break down did call me to apology only. nothing else
2) i got it with a stupid painting on it ... people probably tot i am tow car from BMW since it is 320 touring.
3) extended warranty like extra one year? two?
4) can tell me more abt it ? example? :)

again thank you so much. already PM you :)
 
keeekeee;322524 said:
may i ask whether your courtesy car got big painting on it ? mine got big letter "Sapura Auto Courtery Car" on both sides . damn stupid and ugly. Im like a free walking advertiment bill board!!

It was a unmarked courtesy car. From the rego, it was registered less than a month ago with only 900km on the clock. The only giveaway was there was a "no smoking' sticker in the central dashboard.
 
beemerlover;322569 said:
It was a unmarked courtesy car. From the rego, it was registered less than a month ago with only 900km on the clock. The only giveaway was there was a "no smoking' sticker in the central dashboard.

man in malaysia just unlike Aus, Europe, US ... we all have to fight so hard to get what shd have given. man ... i only wish i could get my money back and get something else :(
 
keeekeee;322612 said:
man in malaysia just unlike Aus, Europe, US ... we all have to fight so hard to get what shd have given. man ... i only wish i could get my money back and get something else :(
Because we hav weak consumer law here.
 
i called back today mornig to screw them one more time abt the stupid touring i got with stupid painting on it. They just send another 320 sedan brand new for coutesy car without any sapura auto sticker on it ... feel abit better but i asked for E60 as courtesy car but they dun have one ... he said will try for me. i doubt it. anyway why 3 series sedan and touring steering so heavy? feel like without power steering? is it normal for 3 series?
 
keeekeee;322858 said:
it just not fair! we pay more then UK and US BUT we didnt get what we pay!!
Well, you know who to blame right ? Incidentally, I wonder if the BMW Club M'sia could take up your issue and help you seek some kinda redress for all the hassle & frustration you have been dealt with. I am sure a club representing a good number of bimmer owners could exert some pressure on AG/SA or BMW itself to rectify your nightmare. Mmmm...I wonder why they are silent on the issue.:wink:
 
keeekeee;322717 said:
i called back today mornig to screw them one more time abt the stupid touring i got with stupid painting on it. They just send another 320 sedan brand new for coutesy car without any sapura auto sticker on it ... feel abit better but i asked for E60 as courtesy car but they dun have one ... he said will try for me. i doubt it. anyway why 3 series sedan and touring steering so heavy? feel like without power steering? is it normal for 3 series?
Maybe your E60 has got an Adaptive Steering while 3 not.
 
this is first time i driven E90 and touring. Don't u guys think without the active steering, the car is abit heavy n hard to turn left and right? Sorry to ask the stupid question. Why alot of E90 owner luv it so much? becoz it is bmw? To me i really think the Honda Accord much more comfortable. Just my personal feel ... no offense, just wanna share how i feel.
 
keeekeee;322905 said:
this is first time i driven E90 and touring. Don't u guys think without the active steering, the car is abit heavy n hard to turn left and right? Sorry to ask the stupid question. Why alot of E90 owner luv it so much? becoz it is bmw? To me i really think the Honda Accord much more comfortable. Just my personal feel ... no offense, just wanna share how i feel.

In your situation, any car that doesn't carry the BMW emblem is a good car. I understand how you feel. The E90 has its own followers. E39, E46 etc also has its own followers. No matter how many times the car gives headache to its owners, people tend to "forgive" and "forget" its weaknesses. I think you have been long enough in this forum to understand why. The driving experience has no match for its price. It is the entry level to the world of premium cars. It is also a benchmark whether its owners can slowly move up to more a more luxurious brand. This may sound very stupid but it is a known fact. Honda Accord is a very good car. Very practical and easy to maintain and very easy to sell later on. Basically, you get what you pay. But why people want to drive and own BMW? Imagine a Seiko watch and a Rolex. Both have been the official timekeeper for the Olympics, but the Seikos are a lot cheaper and easy to maintain. Accuracy wise, a Seiko watch is 10 times more accurate than a Rolex. But a Rolex owner has to service the watch every now and then. After 2 service, the money spent can buy a brand new Seiko with the lastest technology. Stupid isn't it? BMW is a work of art. It has never been perfect. But the pursuit for perfection is what drives the people into this forum. I really salute Bimmer owners. Not because they have a lot of disposable income, but the willingness to be the forefront of an excellent piece of engineering. They don't mind being the so called guinea pigs for BMW. They are like astronauts, risking their lives exploring new frontiers for the benefit of mankind. And the Japs will just follow.
 
funfer_fahrer;322986 said:
In your situation, any car that doesn't carry the BMW emblem is a good car. I understand how you feel. The E90 has its own followers. E39, E46 etc also has its own followers. No matter how many times the car gives headache to its owners, people tend to "forgive" and "forget" its weaknesses. I think you have been long enough in this forum to understand why. The driving experience has no match for its price. It is the entry level to the world of premium cars. It is also a benchmark whether its owners can slowly move up to more a more luxurious brand. This may sound very stupid but it is a known fact. Honda Accord is a very good car. Very practical and easy to maintain and very easy to sell later on. Basically, you get what you pay. But why people want to drive and own BMW? Imagine a Seiko watch and a Rolex. Both have been the official timekeeper for the Olympics, but the Seikos are a lot cheaper and easy to maintain. Accuracy wise, a Seiko watch is 10 times more accurate than a Rolex. But a Rolex owner has to service the watch every now and then. After 2 service, the money spent can buy a brand new Seiko with the lastest technology. Stupid isn't it? BMW is a work of art. It has never been perfect. But the pursuit for perfection is what drives the people into this forum. I really salute Bimmer owners. Not because they have a lot of disposable income, but the willingness to be the forefront of an excellent piece of engineering. They don't mind being the so called guinea pigs for BMW. They are like astronauts, risking their lives exploring new frontiers for the benefit of mankind. And the Japs will just follow.


After reading your post, I guess I will stick to my decision, and get an E60 after all.

However I am gonna make sure I get a spare car like Toyota Estima or something like that for back-up. hehe
 
aaron77;322991 said:
After reading your post, I guess I will stick to my decision, and get an E60 after all.

However I am gonna make sure I get a spare car like Toyota Estima or something like that for back-up. hehe

Just do it bro. It takes a lot of guts to drive and own a BMW. I almost bought a Honda Accord back in 2005. But the BMW experience is simply superb. It's kind of hard to explain. On one hand, there's this "stupidity" issue, on the other hand at the end of the day you will be rest assured that you and your family are in good hands, protected by this "fortress" and of course knowing for sure that this "fortress" can strike anytime when provoked.
 
Yes, funfer_fahrer! an unreliable "fortress" is better than a reliable tin foil .. :p those who value life would prefer the former, even if it's a more than 20 years old "fortress".. but the Japs has improved a lot and they are actually not far behind... yes! they are still behind.. :p
 
funfer_fahrer;322986 said:
In your situation, any car that doesn't carry the BMW emblem is a good car. I understand how you feel. The E90 has its own followers. E39, E46 etc also has its own followers. No matter how many times the car gives headache to its owners, people tend to "forgive" and "forget" its weaknesses. I think you have been long enough in this forum to understand why. The driving experience has no match for its price. It is the entry level to the world of premium cars. It is also a benchmark whether its owners can slowly move up to more a more luxurious brand. This may sound very stupid but it is a known fact. Honda Accord is a very good car. Very practical and easy to maintain and very easy to sell later on. Basically, you get what you pay. But why people want to drive and own BMW? Imagine a Seiko watch and a Rolex. Both have been the official timekeeper for the Olympics, but the Seikos are a lot cheaper and easy to maintain. Accuracy wise, a Seiko watch is 10 times more accurate than a Rolex. But a Rolex owner has to service the watch every now and then. After 2 service, the money spent can buy a brand new Seiko with the lastest technology. Stupid isn't it? BMW is a work of art. It has never been perfect. But the pursuit for perfection is what drives the people into this forum. I really salute Bimmer owners. Not because they have a lot of disposable income, but the willingness to be the forefront of an excellent piece of engineering. They don't mind being the so called guinea pigs for BMW. They are like astronauts, risking their lives exploring new frontiers for the benefit of mankind. And the Japs will just follow.


yeah to be honest, I still love the E60 come with comfort access system. And i found out i really luv it today. I dun need to take out my key and always inside my bag or pocket. Today i drove the 320 to my office. i have to carry my documents and bags and the key in order to lock the car. guess wat happen? the key drop and almost drop into a deep drain (impossible to get it out). man scary!! really bad luck recently. then probably BMW will ask me pay them RM1000 for the key.

anyway may i ask which seiko u talking abt that more accurate then rolex?
those few hundred with battery? sure watches with battery are more accurate then automatic movement watches. is true ... but not when battery dead ... nothing run forever. Yeah rolex owner do need few hundred to service their watches abt every 5-6yrs. Then it can run forever.
Just for your information, SEIKO Spring Drive Chronograph ( automatic movement from Japanese Seiko) in Europe will be approximately €5,500. even expensive then rolex. anyway Im not trying to argue. I did learn from your sharing. I just wanna share here with what i know as well. correct me if i am wrong. no offense again. thanks
 
funfer_fahrer;322986 said:
.... Not because they have a lot of disposable income, but the willingness to be the forefront of an excellent piece of engineering. They don't mind being the so called guinea pigs for BMW. They are like astronauts, risking their lives exploring new frontiers for the benefit of mankind. And the Japs will just follow.

I couldn't have said it better! :top:

Its its coming from my mouth, it will be something like....

"Why live in KL where its so jam, so tension and so poluted? go live in Kampung la!"

:D
 
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