Is the Haze choking you yet?

[rezzy3181]

P/S: Zoggee, are you with Bintang Group or NST Logistics?

On behalf of Zoggee he is his own Logistic TOWKEY group. ada kerja kosong kah?

 

[Zoggee]

FF....

hehe...sendiri punya kompeni.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

FF....

hehe...sendiri punya kompeni.

Waa big time towkay la you. If you buy lorries next time I suggest buy Mercedes lorries. They are very reliable and less likely to experience breakdown. Frank Steitleiner can give you discount. His office is in Menara Telecom.

 

[jarance]

Guys.. please keep to the topic of haze and no name calling..

 

[Iqlima]

Is a bit shame but this is fact of life.Indonesia ban burn forest for agriculture way in 1995.We face very bad haze in 1997 were shocking news reveal 30 over companies involve belong to Malaysian. In 2001 , Indonesia reveal Malaysia government extracting million of dollars from Malaysian company with plantation interest in Indonesia. They call it "contribution" towards the effort to solve the pollution disaster. What a joke

We somehow manage to stop burn forest in our nation by those companies but they learn this clear land by mechanical way too expensive.Should we punish those Malaysian company who bring money as well give job to Malaysian ??

We lost our forest as well Indonesia for human greedy as some call "need". If our government can use their power to stop those Malaysian companies from burn forest even in people country, it possibly minimise the haze but again do they really want to do that. Why not make a conference and show people we trying to do , that's is way easy way to blind people .....

I don't dare to comment on pollution by lorry or diesel because my car have 3.0 cc produce chunk of carbon monoxide as well Nitrogen oxide way high than diesel which can damage lung in 10 second. I really want efficient public transport to be honest ...

 

[okow]

Penang, haze situation not too bad. Been raining everyday here.

 

[supergripen]

This is what you say:

Dude, Is this fact from your home made book of Almanacs? Of do you live right next to a factory?


This is what I have to say:

I can see that you are losing control here. Yes, you need to take a break. From your first reply to my postings I can see that they have no real benefit and it is a very good effort on your part in undermining one's credibility. They were very intimidating in nature and I don't think I like it. Questions such as "do I get this fact from my home made Book of Almanacs?" or "do I live right next to a factory?" warrant a not-so-friendly reply from me. At no point did I label your opinion as "crap" because I believe you have the right to say but you have no right to judge. My replies were indeed longer than yours because I had to make sure that people would understand what I was trying to say. Smart people like Supergripen, Chubby and Sithwarrior can see my point of argument. And, I defended my argument based on facts and figures. Yes, you certainly don't know me and please treat your postings that way in the future.

well said fahrer..being as well travelled as us,its difficult for us to impress on others of our views and experience when these people have relatively little experience compared to us.that being said,i think u've done well to bring that view forward..all i can say is,we can only try.
and while there are things here that are not to our liking,there are others abroad that suffers worse,some virtually inamaginable to us.so before we start wishing bad things to happen to our Indonesian neighbours,spare a thought to their sufferings compared to ours.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Air Quality Index 101

The AQI is an index for reporting daily air quality. It tells you how clean or polluted your air is, and what associated health effects might be a concern for you. The AQI focuses on health effects you may experience within a few hours or days after breathing polluted air. EPA calculates the AQI for five major air pollutants regulated by the Clean Air Act: ground-level ozone, particle pollution (also known as particulate matter), carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, and nitrogen dioxide. For each of these pollutants, EPA has established national air quality standards to protect public health.Ground-level ozone and airborne particles are the two pollutants that pose the greatest threat to human health in this country


Think of the AQI as a yardstick that runs from 0 to 500. The higher the AQI value, the greater the level of air pollution and the greater the health concern. For example, an AQI value of 50 represents good air quality with little potential to affect public health, while an AQI value over 300 represents hazardous air quality.
An AQI value of 100 generally corresponds to the national air quality standard for the pollutant, which is the level EPA has set to protect public health. AQI values below 100 are generally thought of as satisfactory. When AQI values are above 100, air quality is considered to be unhealthy-at first for certain sensitive groups of people, then for everyone as AQI values get higher. The purpose of the AQI is to help you understand what local air quality means to your health. To make it easier to understand, the AQI is divided into six categories:

Each category corresponds to a different level of health concern. The six levels of health concern and what they mean are:

• "Good" The AQI value for your community is between 0 and 50. Air quality is considered satisfactory, and air pollution poses little or no risk.
• "Moderate" The AQI for your community is between 51 and 100. Air quality is acceptable; however, for some pollutants there may be a moderate health concern for a very small number of people. For example, people who are unusually sensitive to ozone may experience respiratory symptoms.
• "Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups" When AQI values are between 101 and 150, members of sensitive groups may experience health effects. This means they are likely to be affected at lower levels than the general public. For example, people with lung disease are at greater risk from exposure to ozone, while people with either lung disease or heart disease are at greater risk from exposure to particle pollution. The general public is not likely to be affected when the AQI is in this range.
• "Unhealthy" Everyone may begin to experience health effects when AQI values are between 151 and 200. Members of sensitive groups may experience more serious health effects.
• "Very Unhealthy" AQI values between 201 and 300 trigger a health alert, meaning everyone may experience more serious health effects.
• "Hazardous" AQI values over 300 trigger health warnings of emergency conditions. The entire population is more likely to be affected.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Particle Pollution - The Main Culprit

Let us move on. Within that air quality index, there is a subgroup called particle pollution or sometimes known as particulate matter. One of my major concerns with regard to my earlier postings is that when this figure in particulate matter is high it can sometimes overshadow the other subgroups such as the presence of carbon manoxide, sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide.

Particle pollution (also known as "particulate matter") in the air includes a mixture of solids and liquid droplets. Some particles are emitted directly; others are formed in the atmosphere when other pollutants react. Particles come in a wide range of sizes. Those less than 10 micrometers in diameter are so small that they can get into the lungs, potentially causing serious health problems. Ten micrometers is smaller than the width of a single human hair.

• Fine particles. Particles less than 2.5 micrometers in diameter are called "fine" particles. These particles are so small they can be detected only with an electron microscope. Sources of fine particles include all types of combustion, including motor vehicles, power plants, residential wood burning, forest fires, agricultural burning, and some industrial processes.

• Coarse dust particles. Particles between 2.5 and 10 micrometers in diameter are referred to as "coarse." Sources of coarse particles include crushing or grinding operations, and dust stirred up by vehicles traveling on roads.

And what about haze? As most of us already know, haze comes from smoke. Smoke is made up of a complex mixture of gases and fine particles produced when wood and other organic matter burn. The biggest health threat from smoke comes from fine particles. These microscopic particles can get into your eyes and respiratory system, where they can cause health problems such as burning eyes, runny nose, and illnesses such as bronchitis. Fine particles also can aggravate chronic heart and lung diseases - and even are linked to premature deaths in people with these conditions.

Paper "comfort" or "dust" masks - the kinds you commonly can buy at the hardware store - are designed to trap large particles, such as sawdust. These masks generally will not protect your lungs from the fine particles in smoke.
So, those who have problems take my earlier advice. Go for overseas holiday where air quality is better.

 

[ALBundy]

My whole point is, just sit back and think for a while. When was the last time you endure a real hardship? Southern China, Phillipines and Vietnam can't escape from the typhoon. Even Japan has to face the earth quake. Indonesia has to bear with the earthquakes as well and occasionally some active volcano. And here we are, a small and tiny nation surounded by all those things have been pampered for so long. If you don't believe in God it is just too bad. You will not understand what I am talking about.
OK, fine. I take you as someone who doesn't believe in God. Why do the Indonesians burn in the first place? Because they have mouths to feed and they realize the importance of agriculture. This burning activities have been going on for hundreds of years. Those days, we might not feel it because of small areas were involved. And when the number of population increases the burning activities also increases. Even though the smoke is a nuisance but the act of agriculture itself is a noble thing to do. They do not have to rely to other nations to supply food. Thailand, fot example can afford to export their rice and fruits to other nation and their domestic supply is more than enough. And here we are, the industrialised nation of Malaysia does not even believe in agriculture, and very proud of it. Simply because we can afford to buy rice or fruits from other countries. What is the worst possible thing that can happen to us? Let's see, if we are being sanctioned for whatever reasons, I think most us will have the body of a supermodel. That explains why America is scared of the rising of China. America can sanction their country and NOTHING can affect them. They can produce virtually anything. From pirated DVDs to sending a man to space with their own rocket. They can also do nuclear tests every week if they wish to.
Now the ASEAN ministers for environment are a having a meeting in Sumatra to discuss this haze issue. If you have any idea please let them know, or at least let me know. Try to look things in a bigger picture and I hope you stop becoming an angry man.

Dude, this has nothing to do with one's beliefs. Keep it simple. By the way, I am a god fearing man.

The haze is man made, simple as that. Need not elaborate on how lucky we are, and how we should be grateful to a have big piece of land called Sumatra sheltering us from tsunamis and what not. Its irrelevant to this discussion.

There is more than one way of clearing the jungle, the Indonesians chose the cheapest and easiest way. They definitely have to be more responsible to millions of people in their neighbouring countries, not forgetting their own people. Yes, there is a dire need for more land for plantation, but to do it at the expense of millions of people who are suffering with the haze??? They can clear the land when the wind is blowing towards the Indian Ocean, no one lives on the ocean.

Look, my nephew was hopitalised for a serious case of brochitis and nearly died, he is only 7 months old. He is still in the hospital as we speak. I have friends with asthma, and they too are suffering with the haze. And I am sure there are plenty of other residents in the Asean region suffering from similar fate.

Your arguments are flawed. The end definitely does not justifies the mean.

Whatever we want to do to improve our country, economy and etc shouldnt be at the expense of others. If an action is morally bad in itself (burning jungles ---> choking others and posing health hazards that will take years to manifest), it cannot really serve a good end (people dying and massive economic losses despite your claim of more food for the Indonesians), even though it may on the surface appear to do so. But since the good society involves justice for all, a government which employs unjust means defeats the end it pretends to serve. You cannot use bad means for a good end any more than you can build a good house out of bad materials.

Jiran sepakat membawa muafakat!!

 

[Zoggee]

Waa big time towkay la you. If you buy lorries next time I suggest buy Mercedes lorries. They are very reliable and less likely to experience breakdown. Frank Steitleiner can give you discount. His office is in Menara Telecom.

Off topic
haha...Long Live ISUZU..

I love the Old Skool Scania Kepala Kayu. 911...yes. The Old Merc 911. Driven it before...whoa..the steering wheel is like HUGE!!! Besar Talam.

Back to topic..

Went to Sepang yesterday with my new broke back brother. Mr.Adliz....mahai.!!! still got haze wor. But last night was nice...rainning a bit.

 

[Hell Boyz]

Penang, haze situation not too bad. Been raining everyday here.

U can say that again, KL haze is getting lesser, thank god

 

[ALBundy]

Was in Pg last week, sky is blue. Haze in KL is very bad despite the heavy rain last night. From my office I cant see anything.

 

[okow]

Yup, its worse here than in Penang. It was quite bad out at KLIA yesterday and even after quite a long and heavy downpour yesterday, it hasnt made our skies clearer.
Some friends from the UK are coming over in 2 weeks time and this is their 1st trip to this part of the World. They had initially planned to go to Thailand but Ive been telling them how wonderful it is here, what a beautiful and vibrant city with the picture perfect twin towers in the background. They have all been excited and looking forward to coming over, then they saw Malaysia's haze situation being mentioned on BBC....I had to write them last night to explain the true situation here.....but what is the real situation here. ...that we are thankful when it rains but then that doesnt necessarily clear our skies....and we hope for more rain and strong wind....I stopped at trying to explain how come this man made "phenomenon" happens repeatedly every year for the past 9 years and every year we sit and wait for nature to send us some strong wind to blow this freaking haze out of our air space and save us.
When is this going to end!

 

[sithwarrior]

Okow,

It will only end when someone takes the time to educate the people who are starting this fires. Just this morning I was watching the breakfast show and they were talking about how some of us malaysians who by the way are living in PJ or Ampang etc etc are practising open burning. What more can I say ?

Sith

 

[dumeort]

Haza coming back ! haza coming back ! will this ever end. Sigh.

 

[daan]

Kuching seems to be getting better each day. How is KL?

 

[Hell Boyz]

Kuching seems to be getting better each day. How is KL?

Not so good, still hazzy here besides the smell is even stronger

 

[daan]

Aiya, looks like I will find out for myself tomorrow.

 

[Hell Boyz]

Aiya, looks like I will find out for myself tomorrow.

Well, u will like the wheather here enjoy it while it's still hazzy, hahaha