Drifting the E90

[ahmz]

Drifted my car for the first time last nite. Was overtaking a souped up wira on the left at a long right bend. In rallies, the bend can be categorised as a 3 that tightens. Applied full throttle while steering and wallaa! The car drifted! What surprised me was the ease in which I could control the drift. Heart wasn't pounding and everything was under control. DSC was on BTW. Very good handling characteristics, I must say....

 

[V-Man]

I had this same feeling with my E36 heading towards Jalan Teknokrat, Cyberjaya traffic lights when a Persona was trying to be funny. The car was actually drifting and as you mentioned the ease to control but here my heart was pounding afraid losing traction. No DSC only ASC..hehe. I was impressed what my old car is capable of.

 

[ALBundy]

It isn't possible to drift with DSC on.

 

[NKTOB]

can a wet road and a reduced tire tread (like slicks) = drift even with DSC on?

 

[ahmz]

It isn't possible to drift with DSC on.

From my experience last nite, I would have to disagree. I thought so as well, which was why I committed to applying full power with the steering already turned at the 2 o'clock position. The drift was easily reined in by countersteering. So, the conclusion I would make would be no electronic system can deny the laws of physics. It can only increase the limits the car can tolerate before natural laws take over.

BTW, it wasn't that long a drift....takut nak sustain the drift and terlanggar divider!

 

[mizhan]

no amount of electronic doohickey can stop momentum.

 

[andrewlim8]

It isn't possible to drift with DSC on.

You are right !

 

[andrewlim8]

From my experience last nite, I would have to disagree. I thought so as well, which was why I committed to applying full power with the steering already turned at the 2 o'clock position. The drift was easily reined in by countersteering. So, the conclusion I would make would be no electronic system can deny the laws of physics. It can only increase the limits the car can tolerate before natural laws take over.

BTW, it wasn't that long a drift....takut nak sustain the drift and terlanggar divider!

You are right too !

Then who is wrong ???

 

[Ryou]

You are right too !

Then who is wrong ???

drifting in a BMW? Mou man tai (no problem) :top:

[video=youtube;lEvpnKRLDO4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEvpnKRLDO4&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[dzuljazz2001]

:top::top::top: ... great vid bro ...

 

[ALBundy]

If you understand how DSC works, it would be impossible to drift the car. Of course no traction control system can overcome the law of physics but we are talking about drifting. If the momentum is too great the car would be in an unstable situation and would probably be get into an accident. Again, drifting is about car control.

Also, without LSD the only way to break traction is to yank the handbrake and initiate the slip angle. The other option is to do a Scandinavian flick. The 325i is simply not powerful enough to do a powerslide in dry asphalt.

 

[SilverBullet]

drifting in a BMW? Mou man tai (no problem) :top:

[video=youtube;lEvpnKRLDO4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEvpnKRLDO4&feature=player_embedded[/video]

this video was posted in another thread, but yup great video indeed (though the walls may be super imposed into the video)..looks possible to drift innit, but one thing we're unsure of is perhaps the driver turned off the DSC in making this vid?

 

[etquah]

nice video

 

[YaZmEeN]

The Scandinavian flick....issit like this?

[video=youtube;bzYmga6hzgU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzYmga6hzgU[/video]

Err, i tot that was good, but seems like i'm outdated already...look here

[video=youtube;W0Z05QauX2A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Z05QauX2A[/video]

its F02 laa :102::102::102:

 

[Eggie86]

I heard Kevster drifted somebody's E38 before.... :vroam:

He also told me E32 auto tranny can drift... Kekeke. :biggrin:

 

[Mun]

maybe not drift, just mild oversteer?
Had my 325 drifted a bit sometime ago but i think that was when the ABS pump failed.
After replacement, can hear the pulse from the rear under hard cornering at work, dang!
Now even harder to with the sticky pirellis.
I think the 325 engine is powerful enough to generate drift, the problem is the weight of the car has increased over the generation + all the traction controls.
I'm sure it is quite easy with e30 325.

 

[ALBundy]

A lot of folks mistakenly think when the tires screech, it's over steer. Most BMWs are designed to have slight understeer. When the car is up to speed under normal conditions, to break traction at the rear tires is not easy with the 325i. It is easier to create understeer. Just go in fast into a corner and understeer will happen.

If the rear brake is pumping, it means understeer. That will create a pivot point and help the car to turn in.

 

[t2ribena]

Bundy...for you drift means the car going sideways but in control but to some drift means losing control and the car going sideways...like that with DSC sure possible...hehehehe

 

[BMWDemon]

Drift on ASC....ok
Drift on DSC ??? Hmmmmmmm....hmmmmmm....HHMMMMM

 

[ALBundy]

Bundy...for you drift means the car going sideways but in control but to some drift means losing control and the car going sideways...like that with DSC sure possible...hehehehe

Actually scenario 2 also not possible. Once the wheel sensors sensed the difference in wheel speeds, in this case rear wheels spinning faster then power will be cut off. If the car still over steers then individual braking will be applied automatically. As such drifting with DSC on is not possible.

With ASC it may be possible as ASC can only help in an understeering situation.