Commercial postings - Q&A

[vincent]

If there is consolation.. some newbie posting are also deleted.

see below link.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32330

Committees, small request, please do not delete the above posting (links) for a few days.
I think it would be useful to refute the claim of the so-call claim of double standard.

Honestly, I spend some time in this forum and I do see a lot of commercial postings are deleted by the moderator. Problem is that when it is deleted there is no trace and hence the conclusion of double standard.

The committee cannot catch all the fishes..

so jarance , if there is so many this kind of posting , and they are still posting , should All of them to be ban? or just mr lionel to be ban....

 

[vincent]

first of all , lionel business have no relationship wit me at all not a single cent.....

ook , now there are OM that says lionel is a nuisance and want him to be ban, so im sure that this is the best time for the person(s) to come forward and say at least something .

if there is no one come out and say something then i would say there is actually no one complain about lionel and pls stop all the stuff saying Official member bising , complain ...

i think mr president should come out to explain this and also tell everyone here WHY IS LIONEL GOING TO BE BAN ?



i think mr president should come out to explain this and also tell everyone here

 

[vincent]

and also thank to pussy for making this tread up without me doing it myself ........

 

[XXX]

...Vincent, I think you know the story and you were one of the culprits so stop pretending to be an Angel here....

 

[Hellraiser]

Traits and characteristics of people who sell in the club forum :

scenario 1 :
Mr A finds he has bought a wrong part, shoots himself in the foot and advertises it for sale in the forum to cover medical expenses.

scenario 2 :
Mr A finds his long lost steering and puts it up for sale after figuring that his car can use only one steering at one time

scenario 3 :
Mr A goes thru a potong kereta shop looking for a used gear box and ends up buying other rare items to make some money to cover the cost of the half cut gear box he just bought....and a body "overhaul" at the nearby spa.

scenario 4 :
Mr A is a distributor of some car care products and sell it in a club forum, not knowing or knowing the fact that the club forum already has sponsors for competitor brand or similar products from another distributor who are sponsoring the forum and are partners to the club.

Please note that personal sentiments are not taken into account in describing the above because they are...well..."personal"... and moreso when it does not add or change what has been described above. the above fact speaks for itself where there are guidelines in any organization, culture or society.

on another note, forumers as guest are always more than welcome to join the forum and share their experiences and join the official tt's held every 2nd friday of the month. forumers are never ever descriminated and made to sit in different tables.

forumers can also sell stuff in the forum as long as not commercially based otherwise other companies will also want to post and where does it all end? and if the other company cannot advertise, then some people will say this or that. there has to be a limit somewhere....no?

no forumer is ever forced to become an official member but this also means that only official paying members have more rights as to the policies and day to day running of the club as stated in the clubs constitution. similar situation where malaysians citizens cannot vote for barack obama or the american idol...duhhhh!

disclaimer :

any similarity to any known or unknown persons dead or alive to any of the above mentioned scenarios are concidental only.

 

[vincent]

...Vincent, I think you know the story and you were one of the culprits so stop pretending to be an Angel here....

what is the story ? bimmersclub ar ???

im not being an angel here fren not qualify to be an angel , ....

so xxx if you know the story then why not say it here .

 

[Hellraiser]

first of all , lionel business have no relationship wit me at all not a single cent.....



look , now there are OM that says lionel is a nuisance and want him to be ban, so im sure that this is the best time for the person(s) to come forward and say at least something .

if there is no one come out and say something then i would say there is actually no one complain about lionel and pls stop all the stuff saying Official member bising , complain ...

i think mr president should come out to explain this and also tell everyone here WHY IS LIONEL GOING TO BE BAN ?

vincent, this matter is between mr lional koh and the committee which mr lional koh knows himself the reason or reasons related.

are you sure there is no special relationship here? your words say no but your actions suggest otherwise. must be an interesting relationship....LOLROTF!

 

[XXX]

Vincent....actuarry ah, I also dunno the story I pakai hantam only...so your journey to seek the truth continues...have a great journey..

 

[vincent]

Vincent....actuarry ah, I also dunno the story I pakai hantam only...so your journey to seek the truth continues...have a great journey..

same here i also hentam onli .....

 

[Hellraiser]

just make sure dun hentam belakang...LOL !!

 

[Lionel_Koh]

vincent, this matter is between mr lional koh and the committee which mr lional koh knows himself the reason or reasons related.

are you sure there is no special relationship here? your words say no but your actions suggest otherwise. must be an interesting relationship....LOLROTF!

Hi Hellraiser ...pls refer to my previous reply .....

I think the issue here is pretty simple, Lionel is not happy with the fact that his postings were deleted and others are not.

Well, I do agree in a way how the committee replied, but I do think it's unfair for Lionel as well. If one is not allowed to do commercial posting, everyone shouldn't be allowed as well. If one is, then everyone should be. Don't think there should be any double standards here. Unless if you tell Lionel's got face problem, then that's fair enough. Don't have to beat around the bushes saying people complaining etc. I think that's pretty much, crap?

As for club membership, it's history. Till today, i still think every club is the same regardless of whatever the name is. We are upholding the name, the pride of the ride, and the friends we have, it's just priceless. We are all here sharing and contributing, if some are unable to contribute financially, then they contribute what they can. Who knows after these commercial postings which profits Lionel, he will change his mind and in return he will be an OM? Easy peasy "I respect you, you respect me".

My 2 cents..

Venom ......U r right 50% ...Yes its true im not happy my posting were deleted but not bcos i want to sell items here but i wanted to find out why they keep deleting my posting ??????As i mentioned b4 ........Selling parts is not the main issue but i want to find out why there is always a personal against me ?????As i been told im offended lot of official members here and i would like to find out as well wat i did untill they keep personal attack me ....If i really did something wrong , i hope i can deliver my personal apology to them but untill now ....If my memory serve me right .....Im not offended anyone here ......If anyone feel he been offended by me .......Pls PM or call me personally and let me know about it .......

Wat make me fed up is also i'm being trusted someone which i think can be called "Friend" here and he always told me he will help me and he always fight for me which i really appreciated it. I told him for the benefits of forum .....I got no problem if my thread will be deleted bcos against forum rules and regulation but i hope its not a personal against me and make me and others feel there is double standard in the forum .......Tat why everytime if i got any issue i will personally sms or call him before i posted something here .........But end up i found out the "friend" is the one stab me behind and complaint the most whcih make me sad ........

Thanks to those who contribute here and those who sms me personaly ........

 

[Lionel_Koh]

Vincent....actuarry ah, I also dunno the story I pakai hantam only...so your journey to seek the truth continues...have a great journey..

Frend .......make sure u dont simply hantammm me ah ......Im really scared liao .......hahahhahah

But serious .....if u really know who feel offended by me(cos u so senior here) ........Pls let me know .....If really i did something wrong ....I'll deliver my apology personally once i confirm with the matter .......... Even if u feel offended by me ...also let me know ....dont be shy shy just bcos u know mem so long ......hehehhehehhehe

But really....i just want to find out wat actually going on so i can improve myself thru the incident ........This is important cos i hope no one is simply make use of OM ..... Actually its for benefits of ALL here .......

 

[Zoggee]

hahahah...zoggee welcum back...been missing you...hows the old man racing team coming along?

hah..?? waiting for me to come kacau ka...aiya,I was actually watching some taiwanese xxx movies la. Old man racing for the sake of friendship and fun. Not poking fun for own benefits wan.


Aiya..seems like someone is stirring water go fishing here.

heeeeyyyaa!!!! ayammmm back. !
C1P3K!

 

[Zoggee]

oh may I add...sure kena delete wan.

Seems to be a lot of puppeters here. Sombongdy is moving the strings.Plucking the notes..hitting the right notes too,but sorry,the octave is low and harsh.

Oh...the chorus is always entertaining. Thats when I come and hijack the thread ma.

 

[Zoggee]

vincent, this matter is between mr lional koh and the committee which mr lional koh knows himself the reason or reasons related.

are you sure there is no special relationship here? your words say no but your actions suggest otherwise. must be an interesting relationship....LOLROTF!

puppet...foot soldier.:top:

Sure kena hantam first. the tactical guy mana hah?:listen:

 

[Zoggee]

tell me , what have he done wrong ........

Nothing is wrong here, he is just being repulsive.

 

[vincent]

puppet...foot soldier.:top:

Sure kena hantam first. the tactical guy mana hah?:listen:

hahahahaha, good one , thts why i like your post all the time .....

 

[Hellraiser]

Venom ......U r right 50% ...Yes its true im not happy my posting were deleted but not bcos i want to sell items here but i wanted to find out why they keep deleting my posting ??????.......

lionel, maybe your post kept getting deleted because of its commercial nature. you should know, this is not the first post that was deleted. i've since lost count how many and how many warnings you have received. why was this part not shared?

As i mentioned b4 ........Selling parts is not the main issue but i want to find out why there is always a personal against me ?????As i been told im offended lot of official members here and i would like to find out as well wat i did untill they keep personal attack me ....If i really did something wrong , i hope i can deliver my personal apology to them but untill now ....If my memory serve me right .....Im not offended anyone here ......If anyone feel he been offended by me .......Pls PM or call me personally and let me know about it .......

this has nothing to do with anybody being personal against you. forum rules are forum rules.

Wat make me fed up is also i'm being trusted someone which i think can be called "Friend" here and he always told me he will help me and he always fight for me which i really appreciated it. I told him for the benefits of forum .....I got no problem if my thread will be deleted bcos against forum rules and regulation but i hope its not a personal against me and make me and others feel there is double standard in the forum .......Tat why everytime if i got any issue i will personally sms or call him before i posted something here .........But end up i found out the "friend" is the one stab me behind and complaint the most whcih make me sad ........

question, why post something when you know it will be deleted for the same reasons why the earlier postings were deleted and now you ask why? what double standards are you refering to? GSC motorsports? GSC is a club sponsor. they pay to advertise. sorry, can't comment about what is agreed between you and the "friend" you mentioned. again, why sms or call when you know it will be deleted? again, forum rules apply.

Actually its for benefits of ALL here .......

no, it benefits you and puts the clubs relationship with the sponsors/business partners and future sponsors/business partners at risk. the issue here is the clubs credibility. read the forum rules again.

if this is the first time your post was deleted and you have no idea why then it is excusable but after many many times you should know better and the circumstances related.

thank you also to all who contributed here and sms me personally too.

 

[Lionel_Koh]

lionel, maybe your post kept getting deleted because of its commercial nature. you should know, this is not the first post that was deleted. i've since lost count how many and how many warnings you have received. why was this part not shared?



this has nothing to do with anybody being personal against you. forum rules are forum rules.



question, why post something when you know it will be deleted for the same reasons why the earlier postings were deleted and now you ask why? what double standards are you refering to? GSC motorsports? GSC is a club sponsor. they pay to advertise. sorry, can't comment about what is agreed between you and the "friend" you mentioned. again, why sms or call when you know it will be deleted? again, forum rules apply.




no, it benefits you and puts the clubs relationship with the sponsors/business partners and future sponsors/business partners at risk. the issue here is the clubs credibility. read the forum rules again.

if this is the first time your post was deleted and you have no idea why then it is excusable but after many many times you should know better and the circumstances related.

thank you also to all who contributed here and sms me personally too.

Thanks for the reply but u r not answer at ALL......

Pls read the whole thread before answer or better know the whole story before answer .......

But appreciate as u just doing ur job ....

TQ

 

[Hellraiser]

Thanks for the reply but u r not answer at ALL......

Pls read the whole thread before answer or better know the whole story before answer .......

But appreciate as u just doing ur job ....

TQ

what? you mean your version of the story. sorry...no time