why close a thread becoz i dunt like ur product?!

[jasonsim]

I join this forum mainly to voice my view after using many polish wax products. many i find does not last. but that AH LIAN simply close threads which go against products which sponsor his site. where is the logic here maa? except to promote his financial motives?i was simply saying many polish products does not last thats all.beading does nothing for the paintwork except for visual effects lah.i used tutlewax, sonax, meguair, simonz. all no lasting lah. one small rainfall is all it take to reduce the shine. infact when i ask the paint shop, they say do not use some polish. it make the paint thinner and prone to swirll marking when polishing next time. a wash with soft cloth and gentle water regularly is the most effective way. forget detailers. this is my view. but no doubt some self serving official member will continue to promote profitable products. just my view.

 

[XXX]

Huh! Ah Lian can close threads one meh...I thought only moderator or Committee???

 

[ICEMAN 68]

ah lian ....... fuyoohhhhhh manyak dahsyat lorrrr

 

[ALBundy]

one small rainfall is all it take to reduce the shine. infact when i ask the paint shop, they say do not use some polish. it make the paint thinner and prone to swirll marking when polishing next time. a wash with soft cloth and gentle water regularly is the most effective way. forget detailers. this is my view. but no doubt some self serving official member will continue to promote profitable products. just my view.

Jason, how much do you know about detailing?

Wanna meet up? There is a TT this coming Friday at Aman Suria. Perhaps we can all see how shiny your ride is, shampoo-ed with PolyGlaze.

Cheers

 

[berserkdroid]

Jason, this is interesting. There is a blue E30 available that is perfect to test this Polyglaze on...

 

[SP|D3RMaN]

I'm really curious as how nice a ride he has.
FYI, Polishing does not thin down the clear coat. Only when using Compounds and the wrong product , swirls are inflicted into the paint.
Please get your information right on polishing and compounding before you shoot your mouth off in here (as a matter of fact , anywhere else).
There is a reason why the moderators close your thread dude.

 

[redbaron]

Ya i second that why dont you come to the tt so i can show how does a car with 7 years of paint on it and how it looks.Please come to the TT i will introduce you the person who locked the thread. Tea tarik on me.

 

[maxxsp]

jasonsim,

your comments in this thread and the other thread are extremely misleading and will only serve to confuse members. the comments you have given show that you have little or no experience with those products and also show you have no technical knowledge on polishes and waxes and those comments only show your ignorance. get your facts right first.

waxes are protectants and do not thin a vehicles clearcoat and will not cause any damage at all to the paint. they simply add a thin layer ontop of the paint to protect it from contaminants.

polishes contain micro abrasives and do thin the clearcoat but only by a very small amount each time.

quick detailers usually have little protective qualities and are used to give an already waxed surface a little boost in gloss and slight increase in protection. they are also lubricative and can safely be used with a microfibre cloth to remove bird droppings and other contaminants before they stain the paintwork.

beading is not for the 'visual effects' but is the result of having a sealant or wax on the surface of the paint. good beading (tall) shows there is still a layer of wax left on the surface while bad beading (flat) means that it is wearing off.

one small rainfall is all it take to reduce the shine

waxes dont last forever and they are basically just a sacrificial layer to protect your paint. so yes, repeated rain will cause the wax to wear off. however good waxes will last for more than just one rainstorm.

PS: i am not promoting any products, am not an official member and am not affiliated with Meguiar's in any way. i just had to post this so that other members wont be misinformed by ignorant posts such as yours.

 

[maxxsp]

I'm really curious as how nice a ride he has.
FYI, Polishing does not thin down the clear coat. Only when using Compounds and the wrong product , swirls are inflicted into the paint.
Please get your information right on polishing and compounding before you shoot your mouth off in here (as a matter of fact , anywhere else).
There is a reason why the moderators close your thread dude.

FYI, polishing does thin the clearcoat. waxing doesnt.

 

[SP|D3RMaN]

FYI, polishing does thin the clearcoat. waxing doesnt.

Bro.
Not to say that your totally wrong or totally right.
Check out this link. Click ME
I'm not saying i'm totally wrong or totally right either. We both are 50% right and 50% wrong.

It states in Step 3 , Cleaner/Polish and Pure Polish.
I was referring to Pure Polish in my post up there and my guess is you're referring to Cleaner/Polish.

Cleaner/Polish does thin down the clear coat but only by a few microns. Where by Pure Polish makes the paint have a better clarity and depth in the paint.

Cheers

 

[astroboy]

I think that's because he bought a wax product that says its a polish, many such thing in the market which is confusing.

So Soft99 is it a Wax or Polish? Because the label says Polish.. and many owner say I polish my car often with wax .. So "Polish", is it an "verb" or "noun"?

Must first forget what you see in the market and research on what is WAX and what is POLISH and meant to be.

Wax is something to apply on to make it shine and protect the paint. Yes, it doesn't last long.

Polish is abrasive in nature as its suppose to wear the lacquer layer of your paint to remove micro scratched and micro unevenness on the chassis. After that, then only apply wax.

Now go back to the shelf and see, you will notice many products' description are very misleading, especially the cheapo ones like Polygaze.. want to know about polymer base product? That's even more mind boggling.. and yes.. I am using it.. That's because I'm not as "detail" as the detailer may want to call it. That doesn't mean the detailers are talking crap!

U may put your definition in whatever it is u r refering too as it's your own opinion and findings.

"The rest is mainly gimmick. Especialy all the detaillers. All nonsense. Only imaginary xtra shine can be obtain from expensive products :stupid:"

The above statement hurts! Please be more sensitive in your posting and this is only your first posting.. u r really asking for it..

Many hardcore auto detailers here and u certainly don't want to piss them off..

Tell your spouse or mother don't waste time & money on cosmetic product because it doesn't change the fact that they are born to look that way and the cosmetic product wash off anyway when they take bath.. see what happen..

 

[maxxsp]

Bro.
Not to say that your totally wrong or totally right.
Check out this link. Click ME
I'm not saying i'm totally wrong or totally right either. We both are 50% right and 50% wrong.

It states in Step 3 , Cleaner/Polish and Pure Polish.
I was referring to Pure Polish in my post up there and my guess is you're referring to Cleaner/Polish.

Cleaner/Polish does thin down the clear coat but only by a few microns. Where by Pure Polish makes the paint have a better clarity and depth in the paint.

Cheers

sorry, i don't use Meguair's products so not familiar with how they name their products. from your link their 'pure polishes' are what other brands call cleaner fluids/paint cleansers.

you are right i was referring to polishing compounds which contain micro abrasives. 1-2 passes of a machine polish usually removes about 1 micron (depending on how aggressive the pad/polish combo is) and factory paint is about 140 microns thick.

nice to talk to someone who knows their stuff :top:

 

[maxxsp]

I think that's because he bought a wax product that says its a polish, many such thing in the market which is confusing.

So Soft99 is it a Wax or Polish? Because the label says Polish.. and many owner say I polish my car often with wax .. So "Polish", is it an "verb" or "noun"?

true, alot of product names are misleading so it is up to us consumers to find out what is what.

 

[JoeYazid]

.....................
Tell your spouse or mother don't waste time & money on cosmetic product because it doesn't change the fact that they are born to look that way and the cosmetic product wash off anyway when they take bath.. see what happen.........

Boy .... nowadays you posting becoming more mutured lah .... :top:

 

[SP|D3RMaN]

sorry, i don't use Meguair's products so not familiar with how they name their products. from your link their 'pure polishes' are what other brands call cleaner fluids/paint cleansers.

you are right i was referring to polishing compounds which contain micro abrasives. 1-2 passes of a machine polish usually removes about 1 micron (depending on how aggressive the pad/polish combo is) and factory paint is about 140 microns thick.

nice to talk to someone who knows their stuff :top:

No problem bro.
It's always nice to able to discuss various brands and equipment out there.
I'll admit I don't know much about other stuff, so I'm always with a ready ear to listen to people out there who knows their stuff.
Btw , you said factory paint is 140 microns thick. This is also subjective to which brand of car. For example , Nissan cars are knowed to be ANOROXIC as it is well below 100 microns (feel free to correct me ).
Hope you don mind me asking, what brands of products do you use? Any good recommendation?
Cheers

 

[astroboy]

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/polish

pol·ish (plsh)
v. pol·ished, pol·ish·ing, pol·ish·es
v.tr.
1. To make smooth and shiny by rubbing or chemical action.
2. To remove the outer layers from (grains of rice) by rotation in drums.
3. To free from coarseness; refine: polish one's manners.
4. To remove flaws from; perfect or complete: polish one's piano technique; polish up the lyrics.
v.intr.
1. To become smooth or shiny by or as if by being rubbed.
2. To become perfect or refined.
n.
1. Smoothness or shininess of surface or finish.
2. A substance containing chemical agents or abrasive particles and applied to smooth or shine a surface: shoe polish.
3. The act or process of polishing.
4. Elegance of style or manners; refinement.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wax

wax 1 (wks)
n.
1.
a. Any of various natural, oily or greasy heat-sensitive substances, consisting of hydrocarbons or esters of fatty acids that are insoluble in water but soluble in nonpolar organic solvents.
b. Beeswax.
c. Cerumen.
2.
a. A solid plastic or pliable liquid substance, such as ozocerite or paraffin, originating from petroleum and found in rock layers and used in paper coating, as insulation, in crayons, and often in medicinal preparations.
b. A preparation containing wax used for polishing floors and other surfaces.
3. A resinous mixture used by shoemakers to rub on thread.
4. A phonograph record.
5. Something suggestive of wax in being impressionable or readily molded.
adj.
Made of wax: a wax candle.
tr.v. waxed, wax·ing, wax·es
1. To coat, treat, or polish with wax.
2. Informal To make a phonograph record of.

 

[kacyp]

So bro mind answering your own question....he he he coz i have soft99. Some one recommend me to use it to remove marks from small thing falling from a tree. is it ok ka?

I

So Soft99 is it a Wax or Polish? Because the label says Polish.. and many owner say I polish my car often with wax .. So "Polish", is it an "verb" or "noun"?

 

[SP|D3RMaN]

So bro mind answering your own question....he he he coz i have soft99. Some one recommend me to use it to remove marks from small thing falling from a tree. is it ok ka?

Bro.
Which product of Soft99 are you using?
Click Me

I think you're talking about this (?)

 

[astroboy]

I am a non-detailer and certainly don't wax or polish my E90 as frequent as many of us.

My last polish(verb) was using PG Polymer the week I bought the car, thinking of giving her a protective coat and that was..... wow! 7 months ago... back in December 2007.. darn... 7 months never polish/wax..

But I do make it a point to religiously wash her every weekend with PG Polymer based shampoo.. yet, I am happy with the shine (my standard la!)

Removing bird dropping? Soft99 is I believe a polishing wax. Since wax is oil base, that's why it can do the trick of softening/removing tar and "fresh" bird dropping, but there are cases where the dropping left on car for too long as its acidic base and it erode the paint surface.. that's where u need to use polish(noun) to polish(verb) the mat surface caused by the dropping.

My favorite polish(noun) is Meguiar ScratchX.. never fail to remove all my scratches, despite some not 100% because scratch too deep...

See... "POLISH".. crap la. Cannot remove scratches.. but on top they got a fine print "car wax" la..

 

[SP|D3RMaN]

No offence to astroboy but i feel like I'm taking English class right now.
Hahaha

OTT
astroboy : r you the same astroboy as in myviclub?