From A : AM I BEING PLAYED????

[three28]

First of all B needs to get his head check! Who tf drifts a car when they do a test drive to buy a car. Meaning if i want to buy a car i can bring it to sepang whack a few rounds & then not pay for the tires or any damage? Please lar. This story doesnt make sense. Instead of A being an oppurtunist, it rather BB & B taking advantage of A to try an get away with their own boo boo. Obviously no insurance cause old car n should be 3rd party right.
Ding, Call me. I got a real good lawyer. Think we can make a case & just sue the idiot. Even 50/50 is ridiculous for me. Break it, pay for it. If not just let it get ugly & post the fellas identity all over any club forum. Wait till he sues & then sue back.
Waste of time to talk with such idiots.
I still cant believe B tried drifting the car. Since he knows rusty & bad condition why test in the first place? why drift it? Its not your car & if u claimed that its that bad, wouldnt it be dangerous to B's own life?

I think this is the way to go. What kinda idiot wrecks someones car and start giving grandmother excuses for it not to be repaired to standars. Sheesh i hope that this B, BB, BC are not club members. What a shame to the club!!!!

 

[azwanb]

like I said before, I still do not understand how this is a bmw club malaysia issue that the whole committee seems to be involved in a personal matter. this thread should be shut. yes I agree that B should pay and the courts may be the only way. I am really not sure if someone new to the club were to make a similar posting that the committee and club advisors alike come out in force and even offer lawyers friends etc. this is absolutely ridiculous. and you guys also make notes on how u wanna take action against B on club membership etc. does this mean that if you disagree with what people do, u make judgements on membership? no clear rules or what? you guys are very emotional coz obviously A is your friend. jeez! nothing wrong with supporting your friend but committee members should refrain from being too emotional about this as long as you're wearing that badge.

 

[Wasabi]

Mr A should be compensated fully for all damages. Or to make things easier, B should just buy over the vehicle. I say those who has given suggestions, just sit back and monitor this thread closely for the verdict.

I don't see anything wrong with committees or advisors being a little more vocal in certain threads which concerns the welfare of fellow forumers who has been mistreated as per case. I'm sure they would very much be as passionate if anyone of us were to be victimised be it by conman or immature members lurking in this forum.

Just because they're 'office bearers' doesn't mean they should be quietly sitting on one corner only to interfere when it comes to official club matters. They are running this club unconditionally....no salary.

 

[fabianyee]

like I said before, I still do not understand how this is a bmw club malaysia issue that the whole committee seems to be involved in a personal matter. this thread should be shut. yes I agree that B should pay and the courts may be the only way. I am really not sure if someone new to the club were to make a similar posting that the committee and club advisors alike come out in force and even offer lawyers friends etc. this is absolutely ridiculous. and you guys also make notes on how u wanna take action against B on club membership etc. does this mean that if you disagree with what people do, u make judgements on membership? no clear rules or what? you guys are very emotional coz obviously A is your friend. jeez! nothing wrong with supporting your friend but committee members should refrain from being too emotional about this as long as you're wearing that badge.

Even if it's someone new to the club and encountered similar situation, I for one would do the same thing, whether or not I'm a committee member. There's a chinese saying that goes "help based on reason and not due to relations".

As committee, I believe the club needs to be a club with members who are with integrity. I don't think anyone who likes to be in a club which takes injustice lightly.

 

[XXX]

azwanb

The problem is just bcos we wear the badge thats why we are being rationalised..come on.

Everyone here is giving their opinions basing on if it was they who are in this situation its not bcos they are friends of A or B. Like you said you think B should pay does that make you a friend of A, you might you might not, but neither can I assume you are a friend of A bcos you think B is wrong. So you are also assuming that we are all friends of A bcos we think B is wrong. Not all humans are as humble as you are, some are more vocal than others so you cant blame them.

If you have read my postings I would have gone for 50/50 bcos thats what I will settle for, not bcos I side A or B, its what I would do but whether in the end it goes my way or not its another question.

Picture this, I just took delivery of my new car, while driving it home it is whacked from behind badly. What can I do? Claim for a new car?Repair it to as original condition as it can be but at the back of the mind I know its been whacked?
Post in a car club to get opinions? when in the real world I know those opinions arent exactly going to work, unless I stop working and day in day out go to the courts to fight my case to claim for a new car.
When actually all I could have done was to mandi bunga before I went to collect the car.

Anyway like I said earlier we are suppose to be giving opinions and not to counter each others opinions or suggetions as for no apparent reason we are causing friction amongst ourselves who are not directly involved. So lets keep it that way, Opinions and Suggestions on how A & B can come to an amicable solution. OK...Happy New Year.

 

[azwanb]

XXX, Sounds reasonable to me. But I think everybody including yours truly need to go mandi bunga when it comes to cars and all.

 

[Wasabi]

Kudos to XXX and fabianyee Well said.

It's true we should stick to addressing the cause and not retaliate each other's suggestions.

 

[Zoggee]

Vote XXX and Fabian for President in the next coming term..!!!!!

*cabut*

 

[pussy]

is there being any updates from ding for this issue ?

 

[zamtresco]

so what happen now?

Who is the A,B,C,D,E,F,G??????

And RHI... I repeat.. RHI.. the involved party is one of the committee/advisor team...



Or perhaps we can expect a new thread "Am I Being Played - Story From B"

Have this case passed over to the lawyer?
Have A lodged a police report... but then can a report be made after more than 24 hours of accident???


hurmm..... too much confusion when we know only one side of the story but yet aunties so emotional and jump into conclusion so fast one....

 

[ALBundy]

Zam, I think B should tell his side of the story too. By B telling his side of the story, everyone will know whether the rumour is true or not kakaka.

My lawyer told me, can still make report after 24 hours, 1 week or 1 month under the current circumstances of this incident. Remember, the owner of the vehicle is not claiming damages from an insurance company but from Mr.B. This is a civil case and he (Mr.A) definitely has a right to lodge a report. Whoever that advises Mr. B and BB better be well versed with the legalities and likewise for Mr. A.

 

[fabianyee]

On a personal point of view, this issue shud have been handled amicably by both parties. And from what I heard, there shouldn't have been be too many 'cooks' from both sides, crowding in the kitchen for a simple 'dish'.

IMHO, it should be as simple as "Once broken, considered sold". However, A should consider giving a discount for the 'reluctant' sale to make it a win-win for all. Question now is whether A and B still want to settle it amicably out of court.

 

[blackrobe]

Based on what had been informed from the horse's mouth himself, A has been duly advised from the begining of his dilemma with the other alphabets.

Yes, a report definitely can be made post the 24 hours, as Albundy has said its a civil matter and NOT a claim under the insurance (whose insurance anyway?).

Yes, A can sue and claim for damages and if the car is not roadworthy anymore, and A can claim for damages to the amount of the current market value of the car or a replacement car of the same make/year.

There is no issue of a release form...A consented to B driving the car and NOT crashing/damaging it. Thats as far as the consent goes. Here B was negligent when driving and handling the car which was under his custody, control and care.

A did not waive anything when his car was repaired below a reasonable standard when he had taken possession of the car.

A can definitely claim for the damages but not be enriched by it, so it'll be a reasonable amount. He may also possibly claim for further damages for loss of use of the car and claim for compensation.

The committee members are here to advise and they have so far done so. And neutral as well. Anyone who has an issue with this must have an ulterior motive...maybe a blind follower of B, BB etc etc etc...? plain as day

And its most certainly a topic very relevant to this Club and its members... lest we be unknowingly screwed in the future by these alphabets...

Now that its pending legal recourse, we can take a chill pill and watch it unravel....

 

[DVST8]

The committee members are here to advise and they have so far done so. And neutral as well. Anyone who has an issue with this must have an ulterior motive...maybe a blind follower of B, BB etc etc etc...? plain as day

Wow....that sounds REALLY neutral.

 

[azwanb]

VERY neutral and unemotional.

So we gonna get the names of the alphabets? Otherwise will not really benefit our community no? Is B a club member?

 

[bimmer73]

Suggestion to the committee members.

Just close this thread, get on with our lives and do whats best for the club. Besides we are a registered club now with ROS. If we go to sponsors and they see this, It will be ambarrasing not only for the BCM but every single BMW owner around the globe.

I remmember someone saying that we represent the BMW LOGO and we have to be carefull with what we do as we need to get permission from BMW Germany to use the logo or the brand name or something like that. Imagine if this goes to BMW Germany.

This is not being very careful. Is it?????




This should be settled outside not in the club.

 

[bimmer73]

just my 2 cents.

 

[Jules]

This forum is not a court - we are merely giving advice to Ding and his A friend, what he can do.

I think naming who the alphabets are not necessary nor in the interest of the club - that's my opinion.

There are many cons out there and we all have to find this out ourselves. Ding can share with us his pal's sorrow story but that's it...sharing. This should stop here as there are plentiful of advice/compassion already given. All those adding to the anger and cry for B's blood ( ritefully or otherwise ) help no one, esp to A.

Life's precious, so let's MOVE ON!

 

[bmwky]

suggestion to bimmer73. If you think this issue is not relevant to you and have no interest to see the outcome, pls stay away from this thread. The club is not helping A to resolve his problem. A has to resolve it himself/herself with B. This thread is the only avenue for A to expose the injustice inflicted upon him by a fellow member. If B is innocent, he/she should have responded with counter argument. As it is, there seemed to be a party interested to protect B's idendity, whom are vocal in trying getting this thread shut. BTW I do not know A and B.

 

[blackrobe]

Wow....that sounds REALLY neutral.

Whether neutral or not is a matter of perception and whether one is on A's camp or the other alphabets. Notwithstanding the subjective nature of this issue of neutrality, the legal opinion/standing rendered on the relevant issues remain intact.

Any difference to the conclusion of the opinion given may only be varied by any enlightenment of relevant issues yet to be highlighted and this would best be offered by the alphabets, if there are such relevant issues.