The Black Category......

[blackcategory]

Wah, meleleh la looking at your Black Beauty. :love:

Which TT are you closer to? PJ, Subang, Ampang, etc?

Ampang ada ka?

 

[Eggie86]

Ampang ada ka?

Yes indeed. They have an Ampang TT every Friday as well. Try to search on the Member's Meet Up Thread. :top:

 

[naughtydj325]

this one on night view
in this picture i'm still using M3 GT on my front bumper...
recently installed DTM lips on it... (i mean the first picture above there is the new update)

wahh~ verry nice bmw ever seem in kl. will your M3 GT front bumper kena hit the hump not? mine allways kena untill now got broken hole(carbon fiber) ~bleeding.

 

[blackcategory]

wahh~ verry nice bmw ever seem in kl. will your M3 GT front bumper kena hit the hump not? mine allways kena untill now got broken hole(carbon fiber) ~bleeding.

hehe... now already upgraded into dtm front spoiler... much more lowered then this...
i have no catching bump issue since my front lips adjustable and plus have a quick relaese lolx... custom made the bracket

 

[maxxsp]

no worry mate, the biggest M52 come in 2.8L...
but there still a room to make it 3.5L

So are you saying your M52 is a 3.5L?
Bold claims.
lulz.

 

[e34_lover]

no worry mate, the biggest M52 come in 2.8L...
but there still a room to make it 3.5L

Wow, any info of how you are getting 3.5l out of the m52?

Is this the M52TUB28 or just the M52B28?

Would be a nice project to do as m52s are cheap because the gains you are achieving are off the charts!! You probably have the highest horsepower for a naturally aspirated m52 in the world as well as the only 3.5l m52 that i know of! :13:

My S50B32 only does 5.2 secs, you should be achieving some nice hp numbers, probably around the 350+ mark! Especially so this being an Automatic (as far as I can see in the pics). Making up for the slushbox i would think you are hitting really high numbers. Have you done any modifications to the torque convertor? I would think that the stock slushbox would struggle to hold such high numbers repeatedly. What kind of differential are you running to get 5 seconds? Gearing?

What crank are you using, rods, pistons, bore? Having such a large displacement increase would require the bore to be at its absolute maximum.

Custom rods and pistons? Maximum bore i know is 86-87mm that is safe depending on how long your engine is required to last. Probably what you are running then? Whats your piston compression height to achieve the huge stroke needed without your pistons hitting the head?

I am thinking you are using a custom crank as you would need a seriously long stroke to gain that kind of displacement. The only compatible crank i can think of is the M54B30 crank with some modifications for it to fit, but even that has a stroke of 89.6 and that is far from enough to get you 3.5l. Because the stroke you need is so high due to the maximum achievable bore you of 86-88mm your engine would be undersquare so running at higher rpms would require a custom made billet crankshaft because of the huge stress that is put on the crankshaft. However this setup is very very nice for torque. Do you have any torque numbers?

What camshafts are you running? How many degrees?

Thats quite alot of power coming out of a single throttle body 3.5l M52! Are you using custom individual throttle bodies? Its hard to see in your pictures but it seems that your intake plenum is aftermarket. What is it?

I know of huge gains being made with huge custom carbon airboxes running Alpha-N. What kind of engine management are you running with this stroker? I am thinking of going with a carbon airbox and running alpha-n but I have trust issues with tuners in Malaysia so i am not too sure about the future of my M3 unless I spend heaps getting a realtime datalogger that can send the info of the car while it is on the dyno to someone overseas to get a remote tune done. I think you should defenitely look into getting a carbon airbox!

Don’t mind my huge amount of questions, I have been trying to figure out the best power/cost ratio for a stroker to build for my brother and if this is achievable cheaply, something I would definitely consider.

I would love to see some dyno data for this monster :rock:

EDIT: Crap i just read that your block is still nikasil lined? So you havent bored it yet? So your stroke needs to be even longer to make 3.5l. How the heck did you find someone that was able to make this crankshaft for you in Malaysia? Or did you get it made overseas?

 

[blackcategory]

Wow, any info of how you are getting 3.5l out of the m52?

Is this the M52TUB28 or just the M52B28?

Would be a nice project to do as m52s are cheap because the gains you are achieving are off the charts!! You probably have the highest horsepower for a naturally aspirated m52 in the world as well as the only 3.5l m52 that i know of! :13:

My S50B32 only does 5.2 secs, you should be achieving some nice hp numbers, probably around the 350+ mark! Especially so this being an Automatic (as far as I can see in the pics). Making up for the slushbox i would think you are hitting really high numbers. Have you done any modifications to the torque convertor? I would think that the stock slushbox would struggle to hold such high numbers repeatedly. What kind of differential are you running to get 5 seconds? Gearing?

What crank are you using, rods, pistons, bore? Having such a large displacement increase would require the bore to be at its absolute maximum.

Custom rods and pistons? Maximum bore i know is 86-87mm that is safe depending on how long your engine is required to last. Probably what you are running then? Whats your piston compression height to achieve the huge stroke needed without your pistons hitting the head?

I am thinking you are using a custom crank as you would need a seriously long stroke to gain that kind of displacement. The only compatible crank i can think of is the M54B30 crank with some modifications for it to fit, but even that has a stroke of 89.6 and that is far from enough to get you 3.5l. Because the stroke you need is so high due to the maximum achievable bore you of 86-88mm your engine would be undersquare so running at higher rpms would require a custom made billet crankshaft because of the huge stress that is put on the crankshaft. However this setup is very very nice for torque. Do you have any torque numbers?

What camshafts are you running? How many degrees?

Thats quite alot of power coming out of a single throttle body 3.5l M52! Are you using custom individual throttle bodies? Its hard to see in your pictures but it seems that your intake plenum is aftermarket. What is it?

I know of huge gains being made with huge custom carbon airboxes running Alpha-N. What kind of engine management are you running with this stroker? I am thinking of going with a carbon airbox and running alpha-n but I have trust issues with tuners in Malaysia so i am not too sure about the future of my M3 unless I spend heaps getting a realtime datalogger that can send the info of the car while it is on the dyno to someone overseas to get a remote tune done. I think you should defenitely look into getting a carbon airbox!

Don’t mind my huge amount of questions, I have been trying to figure out the best power/cost ratio for a stroker to build for my brother and if this is achievable cheaply, something I would definitely consider.

I would love to see some dyno data for this monster :rock:

EDIT: Crap i just read that your block is still nikasil lined? So you havent bored it yet? So your stroke needs to be even longer to make 3.5l. How the heck did you find someone that was able to make this crankshaft for you in Malaysia? Or did you get it made overseas?

very well question mr.e34 lover
but trust me, i'm here in this showroom just willing to share the looks only,
i'm not going to expose the performance stuf here, no good bcoz its ilegal lolx..
yeah lots of things custommade from piston to rod including the cams n injectors..
if one of u saw the small writen spec there just ignore it, just enjoy the total black e36 only...
but dont try it on road lolx...

 

[EEEE30]

Those are legit questions (e34_lover's questions) that come to my mind also. Can you post a dyno sheet here so then atleast we can see what's your m52 is putting out?

 

[redlotus]

Dude your ride looks really gooood man...done with good taste

 

[blackcategory]

Dude your ride looks really gooood man...done with good taste

thanks bro
cheers

 

[maxxsp]

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[mizhan]

testosterones are high here :bandit:

 

[ICEMAN 68]

guys ..what's up with this meet larrr...if over a cup of tea to admire ones ride and to know how much power it's got ...OK laa and would love to join to admire both of your awsome machine ...

running on public road IMHO is dangerous ....better run on a dyno machine to see ... common guys chill pls

 

[blackcategory]

its dyno timeeee... side by side lolx....

 

[ICEMAN 68]

its dyno timeeee... side by side lolx....

yehh ya both can pick your dyno shop and we will come by to kepoh over a few cold chilled ones .....

 

[dzuljazz2001]

:listen: ...Gentlemen .... Chill-up and be cool plss .... we must remember that sometimes what we write can be easily misinterperated negatively (most of the time unintentionally). This can and will be offending to some ..:4: ..so, be mindful, positive and responsible when posting response .... :top:

We are here to learn/share/admire our common interest and that is our BMW .... period ... be cool and stay cool guys :top:

 

[dzuljazz2001]

yehh ya both can pick your dyno shop and we will come by to kepoh over a few cold chilled ones .....

CAPITAL idea tu bro :top:....:4: ...

 

[maxxsp]

Sorry guys, comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I do NOT condone racing on public roads and will NOT participate in any road race either. It is reckless and endangers innocent lives.
Looks like my comment has been misinterpreted so i have removed my posting.

i'm waiting u tonigh infront grandseason hotel @ 9.30....
as i'm not do sh*t in this forum pls dont bring it up more here boy....
see u tonigh... no words.. lets hp work on it... TQ

Dude, I'm not challenging you to a race, I've got nothing to prove.
If you can't list your performance mods because its illegal, don't race either. That's more illegal AND dangerous.
Please don't take offence, as none was intended.
Drinks on me if we meet at the next TT :beer:

 

[blackcategory]

Sorry guys, comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I do NOT condone racing on public roads and will NOT participate in any road race either. It is reckless and endangers innocent lives.
Looks like my comment has been misinterpreted so i have removed my posting.



Dude, I'm not challenging you to a race, I've got nothing to prove.
If you can't list your performance mods because its illegal, don't race either. That's more illegal AND dangerous.
Please don't take offence, as none was intended.
Drinks on me if we meet at the next TT :beer:

haha thanks dude... thats what i want to forward its same elegal as road racing...
nothing to prove, as i said i just want to share the photo only not the mod ok...
if u want to know the mod we can discuz privately, i have few custom performance items if u interested hehe...

 

[bmw7833]

This is what we call "hero knows hero". :top: