Official Club Membership Enquiry

[MRsamdol]

Actually i do agree that only real owners of car should be members because at the end of the day it is BMW club and the fees is actually ok a bit on the high side but ok. Its just that i wish that we could accommodate all that is interested to join like enthusiasts and aspiring bmw owners who is not able to afford. Hopefully the committee would find a solution to this as i am sure this club aspires to be a community of like minded fellow enthusiasts not a stuck up elitist club.

On another note since joining this club i have personally tried to recruit members to join this club and quite a few have even joined this forum but were put off by the ppl here maybe they do not know net etiquette and general forum rules but my friends were harassed to introduce themselves or even asked rudely to use search functions when they tried to search for info by posting questions in a new thread i was a bit embarrassed but i have defended this forum by saying that there is rules and regulations to follow. Mind you that my friends or clients which i tried to introduce here were an eclectic bunch ranging from CEO's to anak orang kaya driving from e60's to e30's but all were put off except one or two who might just be lurkers and not join in actively.

I have now stopped trying to introduce ppl to this forum since i asked a close friend of mine mid year 2006 to join and he was totally turned off by the political undertones in this forum and due to the misfortune of some misunderstanding and the general e46 bashing that prevails here.. the name callings and childish remarks were too much for my friend... i know some will try to deny this and i do not wish to continue such time wasting debate... so now i just refer ppl to join somewhere else.

I still like this club and i regularly join in the forums and the new friends i made here make me believe that this club has the potential to succeed. I believe all the misunderstanding that happened abovementioned were regrettable and were indeed not intended.

Now that this club has been given ROS status i hope that bmw club malaysia will continue to grow further and i hope the committee who i am sure is working very hard right now to make this club a success knows that what makes a club any club is the members.

Pelan pelan kayuh...

Regards

 

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mr.samdol

there is nothing to deny abt what you just posted...eventhough we are adults
we are still kids very old kids that is...just like toys, we are still playing with toys but different type of toys....so what happens when kids get together? some argue, some fight, some cry but tomorrow they start playing again ... thats natural as kids will be kids..

 

[omegaoracle]

fabian bro... membership #72 available ka?

 

[anakin]

If cannot pay RM300 dont drive BBBBBBBBMMMMMMMMWWWWWWWW.

I'm a lower class society, but I do drive BMW and I loved it so much...for me (only!)the fees is quiet high(even cannot afford for new tyres, always 2ndhand ones )....and maybe..just maybe, I won't able to register, at least at this moment...but my dear baron, I won't complaining.....rules is rules..just hope comitees can figure out something like instalment plan or anything...and all of us will be a pround member of BMC......

 

[jarance]

Installment plan. sound reasonable.. will bring it up to the committes attention

 

[harry6potter]

Installment plan. sound reasonable.. will bring it up to the committes attention

Reasonable?

Courts Mammoth got installment, now BMW Club Malaysia also jump onto the bandwagon... of laughing stock. Never say never. Very disappointing, i must say.

The only way the installment plan should work is you pay RM25 per month for 12 months in 2007. The membership will commence in 2008 after all the dues have been settled. Now that is what I call reasonable.

 

[jarance]

Reasonable?

Courts Mammoth got installment, now BMW Club Malaysia also jump onto the bandwagon... of laughing stock. Never say never. Very disappointing, i must say.

The only way the installment plan should work is you pay RM25 per month for 12 months in 2007. The membership will commence in 2008 after all the dues have been settled. Now that is what I call reasonable.

yalor.. but what to do? PPl sugguest and we try to consider the practicality. It maybe difficult or disappointing to some. Just like credit payment as enquired by some. We cannot implement it cos the volume is too small unlike a retailer who handed about 100 to 1000 transcations a day.

but whatever the enquiry, we try to keep an open mind about it..

 

[ah lian]

wahhh.... i like!!! got installment!!!
got buy one free one or not ahhh....??? hubby pay for membership, wife oso get for free lar.... then can support bmw club activities together-gether maaaa.... the more the merrier?? **lol**

 

[jarance]

ah lian, membership is for the individual. but wifey & hubby are welcome and encourage to join all activities. but only registered members can vote or stand for election.

 

[sithwarrior]

dude, this is not about affordability. Anyone can put any figures but the question is why? Whats the reasons behind it.
Maybe should put it this way so look less scary

Club Membership: Rm150(goodies)+Rm150(reg.)

Crow thanks for your understanding. Yes perhaps if we put it that way, it would look better. Honestly we the committee members have sat down and dileberated over the price for the past few months. After giving it serious consideration we decided RM 150 will be for the registration and RM 150 is for the yearly subscribtion. The registration is a one time payment and the yearly subscibtion is err well... a yearly subscribtion lah....

 

[anakin]

Reasonable?

Courts Mammoth got installment, now BMW Club Malaysia also jump onto the bandwagon... of laughing stock. Never say never. Very disappointing, i must say.

The only way the installment plan should work is you pay RM25 per month for 12 months in 2007. The membership will commence in 2008 after all the dues have been settled. Now that is what I call reasonable.

What I mean with 'installment plan' is not like Court Mammoth ones..cmon guy..dengar dulu....say one must pay registration fees RM150 upfront and RM75 x 2 for the subsequent months...not too bad isn't it....(but if you're driving an E90 but still require installment plan for membership...itu memang gila!)

And if you're rich enough to pay yearly fees up to 10 years in one shoot, go a head, nobody cares!! what I do care is for a poor guy like me, not a rich boy like most of you....

Well, just my opinion anyway.....

 

[redbaron]

i have read the other thread Mr1+2=3 aka Mr Gary and i dont think that u are that poor for start u have a car that has cubic capacity of 2800. to initialM i tak cakap poyo and i do attend tt and support the club. the only problem i see here is the isu of RM300.which RM150 for registration and RM150 anual subcription and then every year you only pay anual subscribtion .this amount is set not today or yesterday it was agreed during the first protem commeti meeting which was some years back with the attended member than summited to ROS. now the club is approve by ROS so what ever that has been summited has been approve so it can`t be change the only way to change the amount is pay now the amount that has been approve then come the next agm which is in 2yrs time get member to propose during the agm and then seconded by another member than the members can vote for this clause and then only the RN300 can bee reduce guys.so pay up start campaning now so come agm u guys can change anything.until that time the present commite deserved to run this club because this are the guys that started this club.for your info i am not rich to i drive only E28 and i will pay this amont is not rich or poor but wether you want or dont want guys.

 

[initialM]

To Redbaron,

Sorry bro for the poyo thing is just the general statement and i didn't mean that it's u didn't come to TT. I'm just supporting 1+2=3 that we must not discouraging other members by giving negative statement. Anyway I'm far in JB and do enjoy my stay in this forum. And oso knows a bunch of bmw owners here. In fact I did join few tt in KL when I'm in town. In fact I drove to KL purposely for grand TT 2006 but found not much activity for us coming all the way from JB spending RM300 to RM400. Anyway good to meet some members that u only know in cyberworld. To those who know me personally must know what type of person I am. Anyway why not drive to JB? HH on me

 

[MRsamdol]

That being said... i have an enquiry i have downloaded the form and would like to submit form/payment but i don't think i would want to go for the monthly meetup so how do i pass the form/payment?

Thanks

 

[sithwarrior]

That being said... i have an enquiry i have downloaded the form and would like to submit form/payment but i don't think i would want to go for the monthly meetup so how do i pass the form/payment?

Thanks

payment methods will be disclosed soon. We're in the midst of sorting a system out as we dont want any mess in the accounts... We do appologise for the delay..

 

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Red Baron

just to correct you, AGM is to be carried out as soon as we have a certain amount of members but if it takes 2 years to get that amount than youre right..

 

[1+2=3]

hi red baron, you bring up good points.

actually.. my posting specifically states that we shouldn't be bringing up the issue of who is richer and who is poorer, because that goes against the whole idea of an enthusiasts club.

as for the cost of membership, its also not so much about affordability i think(my opionion only ah..!!) .. the main issue here is, "value for money". I think that also sums up bmw ownership. Many of use here definitely cannot afford a brand new RM280,000 bmw, but we still still take the leap and buy older models knowing very well that maintenance is very much higher than other cars because we see the value in the car, so that makes it worth it. So i believe, if the club communicates the value it can bring to potential members, I think the issue of the fees should not be an excuse. comments??

btw, the very fact i own a 2.8ltr car makes me poor la.. pay more road tax, pay more petrol, pay more engine oil...etc..etc..

 

[sithwarrior]

hi red baron, you bring up good points.

actually.. my posting specifically states that we shouldn't be bringing up the issue of who is richer and who is poorer, because that goes against the whole idea of an enthusiasts club.

as for the cost of membership, its also not so much about affordability i think(my opionion only ah..!!) .. the main issue here is, "value for money". I think that also sums up bmw ownership. Many of use here definitely cannot afford a brand new RM280,000 bmw, but we still still take the leap and buy older models knowing very well that maintenance is very much higher than other cars because we see the value in the car, so that makes it worth it. So i believe, if the club communicates the value it can bring to potential members, I think the issue of the fees should not be an excuse. comments??

btw, the very fact i own a 2.8ltr car makes me poor la.. pay more road tax, pay more petrol, pay more engine oil...etc..etc..

Gary, you do have valid points and just to fill you in a lil'bit, Value for money is what we want to offer our members as well. I mean with out our members we dont have a club as well. Also understand that it will take time for us to sort much out, as for now we will make sure we give the best we can for RM 300....

Put rally suspension lah bro then we go play, how... hehehehe.. your one 2.8 wor with close to 280 newton meters of torque... very stim worrr....

 

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Ok as far as the carrot dangling part I would say the club has not dangled it yet as you see we not yet get the carrot bcos got no fertiliser and bcos everybody still debating which fertiliser to buy..but rest assured when we get the fertiliser its going to be a 20 Carat Carrot.

Currently BMWCM cant promise heaven and earth yet as it needs funds to move but all I can say is that once thats in, BMWCM's mission is to give the members their moneys worth, currently you dont need to pay a cent and you are enjoying yourself, what more when BMWCM has funds to do things that could make that experience better. Any club you join has its risk its just like buying shares in the stock market you hope for the best and that is as much BMWCM can afford to say right now, it will definetely in its ability to give its best to its members.

 

[1+2=3]

Another way to look at this is, if we really believe in the cause of an official club(us, the non-members, not you committee guys, as you already show you are all for the cause), we can decide to take a chance, and join the club, even without knowing what we are really getting ourselves into, except that its a club that represents our passion for bmw's, run and participated by likeminded people. It's like joining a startup company, or buying shares of a newly listed company.. we do all that also, based on "future potential".

pay, join up, with the hope that we are helping to build the club, and make it great...one day in the future. If it really screws up, and doesnt deliver anything despite our best efforts as a member, dont join again next year. no one will blame you then.