Official Club Membership Enquiry

[vladd_tappish]

My main question is when is the last day we can submit our application form and payment? I mean before the restriction of access to certain threads in the forum. Thank you.

 

[XXX]

the cut off date would most probably be 2 months from now.

 

[initialM]

Wa pun ada family. Hari2 kena pick up wife and kid coz ada satu keta jek.
Wa keja buat sales with the ISP busy jgn ckp balik rumah pun buka PC. I and wife memang org JB so ramai relative and banyak la event kena attend. Tapi wa make sure TT is my priority.

Robert lu tak payah tanya form la TT pun lu skrg kurang dtg.
XXX kalau dpt ramai member application pun tapi bila TT atau event takde respond pun tak guna. Wa tahu ramai forummer dari JB tapi takde passion utk club. Cuba tgk V-sixers atau GTI Club.

 

[XXX]

yah bila sudah ada duit buat event free secara besar besaran mesti banyak orang sampai, sekarang selalu mahu buat event mahu mintak duit dulu.

 

[okow]

This is with regards to the registration form:

Why do you need to know my RACE and RELIGION?

 

[fabianyee]

This is with regards to the registration form:

Why do you need to know my RACE and RELIGION?

It's to build a membership database and for easier reference. It's a common membership application template which we adapted for membership application form.

 

[okow]

It's to build a membership database and for easier reference. It's a common membership application template which we adapted for membership application form.

This is a car club, not a political party....there are no "special privileges" for certain races here hence it is unnecessary.

As for asking my RELIGION, that's personal, nobody's business to know except mine. So what if Im Hindu or Taoist?

We will be 50 years old come next year and dont you think that it is time for us not to segregate citizens of our country?

If I were to fill in a Govt departmental form or an application for a housing loan, although Im against it, I understand the need behind asking but for a car club???

I AM MALAYSIAN!

 

[XXX]

I suppose unker Okow has a point there. So what say the rest...its your club so please let your voice be heard.

 

[Wasabi]

The way I look at it, certain questions are just standard operating procedures of most forms. As an example, it may be useful to know race or religion simply because it allows certain special events to be organised if there are enough people of certain races.

E.g. if there are enough kadazan-dusun members from Sabah, the club committee may decide to organise a special event in conjunction to the harvest festival. Or enough Indian friends, they can consider organising a Mega Deepavali event.

I'm sure 'political-skewed' intentions are not in any of our minds. Makes sense?

From the commercial point of view, perhaps such information / database would come in handy if a product or sponsor were to launch a new product targeted towards chinese, they can make use of our database.

 

[okow]

The way I look at it, certain questions are just standard operating procedures of most forms. As an example, it may be useful to know race or religion simply because it allows certain special events to be organised if there are enough people of certain races.

E.g. if there are enough kadazan-dusun members from Sabah, the club committee may decide to organise a special event in conjunction to the harvest festival. Or enough Indian friends, they can consider organising a Mega Deepavali event.

I'm sure 'political-skewed' intentions are not in any of our minds. Makes sense?

From the commercial point of view, perhaps such information / database would come in handy if a product or sponsor were to launch a new product targeted towards chinese, they can make use of our database.

Although I do agree with your points to a certain degree, this is my take on this matter:
Questionaires from forms being "standard operating procedure" by nature and virtue of it being blindly copied and followed without question as to "why" "what's" needed as it may be relevant to some while not to others.

As to your post on database collection of different ethnic for reasons mentioned, my opinion is that we are all Malaysians, irrespective of race and faith. Hence, we should celebrate, target markets based on age, habits, disposable expenditure, etc...

How can we all bridge the gap of our differences which is so much more felt now than ever before due to certain quarters championing for race and religion instead of a race for the citizens of Malaysians as a whole.

As we accept this to be our country, we comform to live in harmony, "equality" and to survive. It would be very diffcult if we insist on being recognised based on our ethnicity and religion.

We have to move on as a Nation - Malaysia for Malaysians!

 

[jarance]

May I sugguest that the race and religion be left as it is in the application form and mark it as an optional item to be filled in. That way you can either filled it if you like or dont if you feel that it is irrevelant.

 

[bmwky]

May I sugguest that the race and religion be left as it is in the application form and mark it as an optional item to be filled in. That way you can either filled it if you like or dont if you feel that it is irrevelant.

agreed with jarance. this is the best. at least the members have a chocie to disclose these 'sensitive' information. The KEY word is CHOICE and the citizens of bolehland are seriously lacking of it in so many sapects of our lives.

 

[theCROW]

^^i agree with that too
anyway i think info about race/religion is much more needed bcoz of we are msians, a multi-racial country.

 

[2cents]

...as in religions of the world, ther shd b no compulsion, to fill in on the form -your race/ religion

 

[fabianyee]

...as in religions of the world, ther shd b no compulsion, to fill in on the form -your race/ religion

ur england a bit the powderful. a bit the confusing for the uninitiated..

Anyway, it was never meant to be discriminatory to begin with. It's just gathering information for the database. However, since there's been suggestion to not make them compulsory, you would have the choice to fill in the information.

 

[mini_jeff67]

Brothers & sisters, being multi-racial is one thing, but let's not forget that we are multi-religious as well... stating the religion will certtainly make it easier for the committee to organise things, especially where food and drinks are involved.

True, one may argue that just leave everything hala and that's the end of that, but what if, say, as an example, a beer company decides to do somthing with the club for oktoberfest? Then what? Do we go for it? I'm sure there'll be other events when such sensitivities come into play...

 

[initialM]

Brothers & sisters, being multi-racial is one thing, but let's not forget that we are multi-religious as well... stating the religion will certtainly make it easier for the committee to organise things, especially where food and drinks are involved.

True, one may argue that just leave everything hala and that's the end of that, but what if, say, as an example, a beer company decides to do somthing with the club for oktoberfest? Then what? Do we go for it? I'm sure there'll be other events when such sensitivities come into play...

Totally agree. How I suppose to wish Roland Singh and Robert Singh if I dun know what festival they are celebrating?
Lets not this be an issue. After all we r Malaysian drivin a German marque
Happy New Year!

 

[mini_jeff67]

Just a tot - what about members from East Malaysia? Full fees too?

 

[XXX]

this i something maybe we the committee need to discuss....but at the moment try reading my post on pg5....but the burning carbon part would be abit difficult for u though...

 

[Funk]

XXX,

I agree with your thoughts generally but we need to understand the fact that our current member demographic is made up of different level of income groups and background. Frankly, even you and I may view the value of RM 300.00 in different manner so we need to think about the masses here a little. One of the main grouses that I hear from members that I have shared the info with is why wasn't there any form of discussion / brainstorming on an open platform about joining/annual fees ? It's almost as if the committee got together and decided : "Hey, this is it - this is how much we're gonna charge so it's pretty much a take it or leave it scenario!"

I know that is hardly the truth and a lot thoughts/concerns/ views must have gone into the decision making process itself. The only trouble is most people may not know it and it's almost as if their thoughts and suggestion were not even asked for. The other thing that does bother me ... and perhaps even others here is if we're trying to play this game of "my club is more exclusive than yours" by pricing our joining/annual fees higher than the lesser (by the virtue of brand recognition) clubs. A sense of pride and belonging should not come purely from the fees that we pay to get ourselves into a club or community but rather from the non-tangible things such as the level of interaction, participation, unanimity, team-spirit and camaraderie that keeps us going even in the light of disagreement and discord in hard times. Surely, there must be a more cohesive set of reasons and justification for our fees to convince the prospective members that all this will be money well spent at the end of the day.

Regards,
VaN.

You've said it too. You da man 2.

BTW, I want to become a member too but I feel that the justification of fees of Rm150 +Rm150 is based "car status" etc is pure crap. I hope this is not the mentality of the club as a whole.

Some of you chaps know who I am and some of you know me in person. So please do not view me as fire-starter.

As a potential member, I truly like to see some benefits coming along the member's way.