New Petrol Subsidy Structure Coming Soon

[mizhan]

Diesel- Mizhan before you become pukai! Leaner, greener ,meaner.In Europe 80% cars sold are diesel, 20% petrol. There's 85% extra torque and 15% extra power. Nobody can stand in your way when you want to overtake. :top::top:

perhaps i'll have to eat humble pie sooner than i thought and use small engines. however not with diesels.. but forced induction gasoline engines. i doubt the diesels are as perky without their snails :wink:

 

[docrayboy]

Diesel my friend

perhaps i'll have to eat humble pie sooner than i thought and use small engines. however not with diesels.. but forced induction gasoline engines. i doubt the diesels are as perky without their snails :wink:

I heard diesel price not going up come May 2010 and even now its cheaper at MR1.70/L compared to MR1.80/L for petrol. Even Mercedes Malaysia are bringing in their diesels very soon too to catch up with BMW according to paultan's website. :top::top::listen:

http://paultan.org/2010/01/21/mercedes-tops-premium-chart-set-to-bring-in-diesels/

 

[funfer_fahrer]

I heard diesel price not going up come May 2010 and even now its cheaper at MR1.70/L compared to MR1.80/L for petrol. Even Mercedes Malaysia are bringing in their diesels very soon too to catch up with BMW according to paultan's website. :top::top::listen:

http://paultan.org/2010/01/21/mercedes-tops-premium-chart-set-to-bring-in-diesels/

How sure are you that the price of diesel will remain the same? Actually, diesel is not not cheap. The price is catching up with petrol. RM1.70 vs RM1.80. For this kind of price difference we should be enjoying Euro 4 diesel. In Europe Euro 4 diesel costs 1.17 Euro/litre vs petrol 1.29 Euro/litre. In Australia, Euro 4 costs around AUD1.25/litre vs AUD 1.33/litre for petrol. The only good thing about our own diesel is that it is still as economical as the higher grade diesel although it is not as good. That's why it makes no sense at all to drive a petrol car in Europe. Over here there's still a big question mark on how long the diesel engine will rev happily before something goes wrong. Even Paul Tan can't be sure about this.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

:love:

The 330d is a good performance car, if it was available here in Malaysia. Still, guess which car won the What Car? Car of the Year awards 2010 - Compact executive winner ?


http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/wha...rds-2010/compact-executive-winner/246329:top:

The 330d will come to Malaysia. It is just a matter of time. Maybe next year, 2012, 2013? Who knows. The 320d is a good car. The 330d will keep most of us happy and occupied for a long..long..time. This is what 320d cannot do.

 

[CleanWorldPeace]

perhaps i'll have to eat humble pie sooner than i thought and use small engines. however not with diesels.. but forced induction gasoline engines. i doubt the diesels are as perky without their snails :wink:

Why are you so bored, bro????:top:

 

[bmwky]

Well....it will bring back the days of Pump Attendents whose job is to swipe ICs and you will also hear many Offers from IT whiz doing wonders to your MyKad information for a fee. More opportunities for illegal ways to make money.

 

[E46Fanatic]

Well....it will bring back the days of Pump Attendents whose job is to swipe ICs and you will also hear many Offers from IT whiz doing wonders to your MyKad information for a fee. More opportunities for illegal ways to make money.

Wont happen la. It'll be similar to getting a few extra zeros to your current account which doesn't happen for a "fee" today. Assuming of course that the word is true that the fuel subsidy system has been privatized by a local bank.:wink:

 

[mizhan]

Why are you so bored, bro????:top:

you got PM bro..

 

[UltraSensitive]

Well....it will bring back the days of Pump Attendents whose job is to swipe ICs and you will also hear many Offers from IT whiz doing wonders to your MyKad information for a fee. More opportunities for illegal ways to make money.

there will also be a loophole for those who work with JPJ/JPN to earn extra monies.

 

[supergripen]

perhaps i'll have to eat humble pie sooner than i thought and use small engines. however not with diesels.. but forced induction gasoline engines. i doubt the diesels are as perky without their snails :wink:

Mizhan,have a look at Merc's Diesotto engine concept..small gasoline engine that operates and acts like a turbodiesel.A new family of engines are already here with some on the way soon,in all of Merc's CGI 4cyl offerrings.

Pretty cool stuff..

 

[loafer]

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...craps-tiered-fuel-subsidies-for-simpler-ways-

 

[okow]

Fuel subsidy scheme shelved, originally set to be implemented on May 1

By EUGENE MAHALINGAM



PETALING JAYA: The Government’s proposed fuel subsidy scheme based on the engine capacity of vehicles has apparently been shelved.
Sources indicate that the plan, which was originally set to be implemented on May 1, will not proceed even though a lot of the preparatory work has entered the final stage.
“We were so close to getting this off the ground,’’ said a source.
The Government had planned to introduce a tiered pricing system for petrol, depending on engine capacity, while foreigners would have to pay the market price.
According to reports, the plan called for the mandatory use of MyKad to differentiate Malaysians from foreigners, requiring the need for MyKad readers at petrol stations.
Subsidised petrol would be capped to a certain amount of litres a month per user for owners of vehicles with engine capacities of below a certain threshold. The reported upper limit eligibility for the petrol subsidy is 2,000cc. Owners of cars with bigger engine capacities would be exempted from the subsidy.
However, many had considered the proposed scheme to be very unfavourable and cumbersome to enforce and some have suggested that the subsidy itself should be removed.
RAM Holdings Bhd chief economist Dr Yeah Kim Leng said scrapping the scheme and moving to a “fully market-driven” system was a better option in the long run.
“The public has to realise the fuel subsidy scheme is not sustainable as it impacts the Government’s finances. Removing the subsidy would reduce over-consumption and promote more efficient use of our country’s resources,” he said when contacted by StarBiz.
Yeah said many countries, including Indonesia and Sri Lanka, were practising a free-float system, where fuel prices were based on global oil prices.
“This is the ideal but Malaysia is accustomed to subsidised prices. From an economic standpoint, it is not sustainable.”
Yeah said removing the fuel subsidy completely would create short-term strain on the lower income group as they would have difficulty coping with the sharp increase (in fuel prices).
“The best thing to do is to gradually reduce the fuel subsidy or it would create inflationary pressure.”
Yeah said the proposed tier system was unfair and vulnerable to abuse.
“It is unfair from the individual perspective because everyone is entitled to equal fuel subsidy levels.”
He also cited the case where some fishermen were purchasing diesel at subsidised prices and were selling it for profit.
“Owners of lower cc engine cars could sell their entitlement to owners of higher cc vehicles. This situation could crop up if the system is not watertight.
“Principally, it (the tiered fuel subsidy scheme) seems desirable but administratively, it is no go,” said Yeah.
An analyst from a local bank-backed brokerage said the tier system would be difficult to monitor and the Government should do away with the fuel subsidy scheme.
“The only way to become a high-income nation is to remove the fuel subsidy. There would be near-term implications but eventually the public will be able to adjust. The removal should however be gradual,” he said.
He also said the Government should improve its public transport infrastructure if it were to reduce or remove fuel subsidies.
“The Government could also do away with excise duties (for imported vehicles) but I don’t think that would happen any time soon.”
Mercedes-Benz Malaysia Sdn Bhd vice-president of sales and marketing for passenger cars Florian Mueller said he could identify with the Government’s decision to introduce a fuel subsidy scheme.
“In the long run, the Government is looking at how to reduce fuel consumption. I think the best thing to look at next is how we can encourage people to purchase vehicles with the latest technology or encourage the manufacturer to build car engines with lower fuel consumption.
“This would also encourage other players to introduce technology that encourages fuel saving. The Government could also make it mandatory for car owners to replace old engines if they are not fulfilling emission standards, just like they do in Europe.”

 

[ramsing]

The Government could also make it mandatory for car owners to replace old engines if they are not fulfilling emission standards, just like they do in Europe.”

this would be funny. most of the older cars in the kampungs etc run horribly, dun even start on the lorrys,vans,buses etc. prob would be riots

but on the bright side, all the runners in jpj/puspakom will become rich overnight

m'sia boleh hehe

 

[loafer]

They're just constantly thinking about ways to make people rich. Too bad the people isn't the ordinary rakyat :/

 

[mizhan]

is it to much to ask for a government to at least appear to be intelligent when considerng policies..?

 

[E46Fanatic]

is it to much to ask for a government to at least appear to be intelligent when considerng policies..?

We should thank the one behind the decision to scrap it. He is doing his best to transform the govt and results shlould be more apparent over the next few months. Give kudos where it's due

 

[affan66]

if anyone here running for election, i'd like to vote. then let's see what kind of decisions will be made

 

[funfer_fahrer]

if anyone here running for election, i'd like to vote. then let's see what kind of decisions will be made

This means the country is bleeding very badly and it doesn't matter who runs the show. It still sucks.:59:

 

[affan66]

sucks or not, this is our country.
if we got ideas, put it on the table.

 

[ALBundy]

We should thank the one behind the decision to scrap it. He is doing his best to transform the govt and results shlould be more apparent over the next few months. Give kudos where it's due

I do think the present PM is more sensitive to the feedback of the rakyat, more so after the last election.

But who are his policymakers that came out with this indigenous plan of tiered subsidy? It was unnecessary to begin with.

I'd hope current PM will continue to do the right thing which in my opinion is to gradually reduce the subsidies (car duties included) and channel the money to programs that will generate more economic growth.