..do you believe in seatbelts as a life saver in case of an accident.. ?

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..im asking this in light of 'new' rear seatbelt law fully enforced from this Sunday..Im just wondering, how many of you thinking that seatbelt is necessity ?? From what i was able to see on car crash tests, it seems that seatbelt offering protection in case of front impact, and airbags actually does real job there..having in mind that use of seatbelt can be extreme danger in terms of locking mechanism, stuck , passengers (if injured, or small kids, older people, etc) may literally stuck in there in case of car caught fire, or something like that..other situations where seatbelts show their bad side is in case that car is about to be exposed in to roll (upside down), and any attempt to go to safe position (moving head down between knees/knees level), is blocked by seatbelt and many cases with rolling had fatal injuries (broken neck), because of given reason...having said all this and fact that real protection eventually is engaged at front impact(actually airbags do most of the job), im wondering how safe is to use seatbelts...whats your take on this ?
 
I would say wear them..........99% of the time it does more good than harm. 1% of the time...sorry, your seatbelt did you in.
 
the seat belt saved my life, no slake, just held me... so close that the steering wheel just grazed my chest with bruises....at a combined speed of 130km head on....
somemore in a 19years old e30.....

all in my family use the belt...
 
and the diesel soot shooting into the faces of the car behind trying to carjack us!....
 
actually air bag are design to work with seat belt. cuz if no seat belt how the air bag know where is your face when its deployed.
 
I'm a daily reader of a local blog which covers accidents in Malaysia. And I've seen countless times when a car rolls/hit something and the driver/passenger is thrown out of the car because he/she did not wear the seatbelts and being crushed by the car falling on them.

I have a friend who had an accident with his friend in Songkhla, he was wearing a seatbelt as a front passsenger, he only had minor injuries, but his friend the driver was dead because his head came out of the car when it was rolling and was crushed between the car and the tarmac. His body is still in the car though.
 
it's prima facie seat belt saves life. even airbags are fatal without seat belt. That's why airbag are called SRS. secondary restraint system. Seat belts are still the primary restraint system.
 
I had the unfortunate experience of having to weave my way through body parts somewhere near Yong Peng one night several years ago.

It was around 9pm, at full speed, pitch dark and all the sudden saw some flickering light by the side of the road (some good Samaritan was flashing torch light) so quickly try to slow down.

Drove pass what appeared to be pair of jeans with shoes attached and a short distance later an object that appeared to me like a headless pig carcass. Can hear splattering sound from the bottom of my car, like driving over a sandy road.

Immediately thought that some lorry transporting pig may have dropped some carcasses on the road but as I drove pass the small crowd of people and vehicles parked at the side of the road, I didn't see anymore carcasses or any lorry carrying pigs.

I didn't stop as my wife and kids were sound asleep and continued my journey back to KL with an uneasy feeling that what I saw was not what I thought I saw.

The next morning sent my car to the car wash and got them to clean the undercarriage of my car.

It's only the following day that the news appeared in the paper. An MPV, Mazda if I recalled correctly, that was traveling southwards hit the road barrier and the occupants sitting at the middle row were thrown across to the other side of the road after the door flung open. Both were decapitated after being run over lorries and cars. Both of them did not wear their seat belt.

Sorry for the long winded kisah benar but having/driving MPV is the in thing now. So pls make sure that your passengers, especially those in the middle rows, wear their seat belt. Those sliding doors are quite dangerous.
 
Never heard of seatbelts trapping occupants who use them correctly but heard about dead ones who dont use them.
 
my friend got lucky when his myvi accidentedly spin then hit a divider and thrown over to the right lane . he got transfer from right seat to left as the car rolls then a scania (if not mistaken) hit the driver side car . he was lucky because he did't wear a seat belt . and came out of the car with minor injury
 
someone i know was involved in a head on accident. he was sitting in the front passenger seat. he didn't slammed
into the dashboard thanks to the seatbelt.
but the back of his neck (nerve i think) was injured because the rear passenger head slammed into him. rear passenger didn't wear seat belt.
 
i know cases of seat belt killed people when the inertia come in the neck snapped . thats pre -seat belt tensioner period ( early 90/ late 80 ) cars.
from statistic killed by seat belt 0.00x% killed without seatbelt 80% ( my make up figure , no basis one ) . thus if not mistaken go youtube look for BMW megafactory video , there is one part where a Z4 driver teach the correct way for SEAT distance betwen cabin and seat belt. if you wear seatbelt but drive in sleeping position you slip and crash also no point. too near you may get killed by air bag .

in summary , its your life government can mandate seat belt rulling its up to you to buckle up or not. if seat belt is optional i do not see the point recaro exist with their 5 point harness / seat belt. for me i want to live longer so i wear seat belt so is all my occupant in car. i have experience from 170KM/h -> 0 KM/h in NSE before on my old e60 and seat belt with the auto seat raise position save me and my then pregnant wife also good BMW brake. i was less than 2 CM from the car in front who is crash to car in his front and i can drive away without even scratches. during the braking force even with ABS the g force was huge .
 
The driver of this car

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Went from a good looking E39 above to this

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when hit hit a tree and the best part is he walked away from the wreck with minor injuries on his own.


The seat belt saved his life.
 
seatbelt is not a life saver, but it increases the survival rate. same goes to all the safety features implemented (airbags etc).
 
Recently a 19 year old uni student was thrown out of the car driven by her dad..raining and car was aquaplaned hit the dividers..she was killed on the spot as she was somehow thrown away from rear window..both dad and mom survived with minor injuries..

i saw many fatal cases on ondscene website last year due to back passengers not wearing seatbelts and drivers usually walk away..

good enforcement!
 
when things happen on the road that is not much to our liking. we always complain about the lack of enforcement by the public authorities. where to my believe, we should enforce ourselves not let other people enforce us. after all it's our life who's at stake by the lack of enforcement on out part. and for that lack of enforcement on our part, some unlucky ones might get mangled up together.

with the enforcement of wearing rear seat belt, i hope this would be an added precaution to all of us.
 
Seat belt will minimise injuries for sure.... Princess Diana would have survived if she had worn a seat belt, well the front passenger did and he survived... Diana and Dodi seated at the rear weren't belted down and the impact thrown them forward and she had severe internal injuries.

Bear in mind rear passengers who aren't belted down would be catapulted forward like a projectile in a frontal collision causing injuries to themselves and those seated in front. Imagine if a passenger weighing 80kg right behind u flying towards u upon collision, airbag deployed in front but 80kg 'ballast' hitting you from the back... I cringe to think what injuries you would sustain. So don't underestimate the importance of the rear seat belt. It saves both the rear passengers and the front.
 
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