Motorcyclists in KL - what is wrong with you?

[initialM]

that is bad... how are the kapchai-ers in JB? Any better?

Not all are bad but most of them not value their life's. Most of the time I just stay away from them coz my car are valuable than their life hehehe:smokin:

 

[climenta]

Haha, time for one of the good bikers to say a few words

I've seen quite a few bikers kicking out on cars simply coz the cars can't chase after them during a traffic jam. Rude & unruly, guess it has something to do with being macho & powerful on the road. Don't think this menace will be taken care of in the near future, meanwhile let's all continue to complain:22:

 

[SaWMan]

While we're ranting here, the fact is nothing will ever change and just be alert and try not to tangle with them. Any damages to your beloved BMW can be repaired as long as you're safe from these annoying rempits.

If they choose to ride on a bike with bad road manners, then they shall die one day and there's nothing we can do or feel bad about. Hopefully they don't get other good riders killed as a result of their stupidity.

For good riders out there commuting to make a living, please be careful and ride safe!

 

[saat]

Bad news guys.

The government has amended the law to create special bike lanes. The space between cars and between cars and roadside curbs is strict use of motorbikes. This lanes shall henceforst be called Exclusive Motorbike Right of Way. The reason why the government has decided to do this is to reduce the number of motorbike accidents within the city.

The government is proposing to ammend the law to allow motorbkes to be driven in the opposite direction in a one way street. The rationale is by allowing the biker to drive in the opposite direction, it increases the dissipation of a significant volume of traffic thereby allowing a better flow for cars and trucks.

These are a part of series of widespread amendments made to the law as a result of a study that was conducted recently. The study concluded that there are 98% low capacity bikes in Malaysia. These bikes forms the lifeline of the nation and has contributed to the economic development to the country.

One of the amendments being studied is to do away with crash helmets. The study also concluded that motorbikers brain activity is affected by lack of ventilation. The study found that a high percentage of cheap helmets used by the lower capacity bike riders do not provide sufficient ventilation to support normal brain activity. The study is also found that the weight of helmet is a major contributing factor. This is found to be a major cause of accidents. The government is also considering to fund a research on a new type of crash helmets that will provide enough ventilation. The target is to do away with 85% of the protective outer layer which provide 350% improvement in ventilation and 65% decrease in weight.

 

[Traveler]

This is why I always refer to most bikers here as suicide bikers (good bikers not included), our very own home grown version of the suicide bomber. If they want to kill themselves while riding their bikes, I couldn't care less. The problem is that they usually involve other innocent bystanders (pedestrians, cars, etc) in their suicidal antics. I have seen so many stupid suicidal moves:

1. Traffic jam behind Muzium Negara - biker weaving at (relatively) high speed between stopped vehicles, suddenly ran out of space, ran into the back of a Proton, and did a Superman impersonation, narrowly missing landing on a 2nd car.
2. Jalan Tun Razak near Pudu - traffic jam, another weaving biker ran into the back of a lorry; fortunately (or not, depending on your point of view) only his bike was stuck, and he was unhurt.
3. Jalan Sultan Ismail - group of bikers ran a red light, and were crushed by a speeding bus who was trying to beat the yellow light, read later than a few of the bikers died.
4. Jalan Duta - late at night, was overtaken by a group of bikers who appeared to be racing; in front of me, one of them lost control and crashed, and slid quite a distance, luckily he was far enough ahead that I was able to avoid running over him.
5. Jalan Pinang in front of Etiqa twins - Not a motorbike this time, but some guy on a bicycle - suddenly decided to cut across the road without looking, and doing so at a very leisurely pace, right in front of me. If I didn't slam on the brakes really hard, he would have been roadkill. A Kenari ran into the back of my E36 at this point. Luckily there was hardly any damage to the (unpainted) bumper of my car, while the Kenari suffered smashed headlights and crumpled grille. The Kenari driver was loudly cursing the cyclist when he came out of his car, the cyclist just looked at us, and calmly continued on, oblivious to the fact that I just saved his life. Didn't know whether to curse him or laugh at the situation.
6. Jalan Loke Yew - was driving my dad's Accord, and stuck in the infamous Cheras crawl; one biker squeezed by the passenger side of the car, then simply punched the side window, for no reason, then rode onwards. I honked him loud, and he turned his head, swung his hand to show the finger, and while doing so, hit the side mirror of another car in front of him (since he was busy looking at me, he obviously didn't see the mirror), lost control and fell down. I laughed so hard when I drove by (the biker was getting a scolding from the big burly driver of the car he hit), and was still laughing when I reached my office that my colleagues asked why was I looking so happy and cheerful on a Monday morning... LOL.. still laugh when I think about it.

Good riders - take care out there.
Suicide bikers - feel free to kill yourselves but please don't get the rest of us involved!

 

[buzzlie]

Agree, they are such a nuisance. I think parents play a major roles too. At times they are the one sponsoring/buying motorbike/car for this young-blooded teenagers to be on the road.

 

[QD250]

Bad news guys.

The government has amended the law to create special bike lanes. The space between cars and between cars and roadside curbs is strict use of motorbikes. This lanes shall henceforst be called Exclusive Motorbike Right of Way. The reason why the government has decided to do this is to reduce the number of motorbike accidents within the city.

The government is proposing to ammend the law to allow motorbkes to be driven in the opposite direction in a one way street. The rationale is by allowing the biker to drive in the opposite direction, it increases the dissipation of a significant volume of traffic thereby allowing a better flow for cars and trucks.

These are a part of series of widespread amendments made to the law as a result of a study that was conducted recently. The study concluded that there are 98% low capacity bikes in Malaysia. These bikes forms the lifeline of the nation and has contributed to the economic development to the country.

One of the amendments being studied is to do away with crash helmets. The study also concluded that motorbikers brain activity is affected by lack of ventilation. The study found that a high percentage of cheap helmets used by the lower capacity bike riders do not provide sufficient ventilation to support normal brain activity. The study is also found that the weight of helmet is a major contributing factor. This is found to be a major cause of accidents. The government is also considering to fund a research on a new type of crash helmets that will provide enough ventilation. The target is to do away with 85% of the protective outer layer which provide 350% improvement in ventilation and 65% decrease in weight.

Government proposal?????

 

[climenta]

Bad news guys.

The government has amended the law to create special bike lanes. The space between cars and between cars and roadside curbs is strict use of motorbikes. This lanes shall henceforst be called Exclusive Motorbike Right of Way. The reason why the government has decided to do this is to reduce the number of motorbike accidents within the city.

The government is proposing to ammend the law to allow motorbkes to be driven in the opposite direction in a one way street. The rationale is by allowing the biker to drive in the opposite direction, it increases the dissipation of a significant volume of traffic thereby allowing a better flow for cars and trucks.

These are a part of series of widespread amendments made to the law as a result of a study that was conducted recently. The study concluded that there are 98% low capacity bikes in Malaysia. These bikes forms the lifeline of the nation and has contributed to the economic development to the country.

One of the amendments being studied is to do away with crash helmets. The study also concluded that motorbikers brain activity is affected by lack of ventilation. The study found that a high percentage of cheap helmets used by the lower capacity bike riders do not provide sufficient ventilation to support normal brain activity. The study is also found that the weight of helmet is a major contributing factor. This is found to be a major cause of accidents. The government is also considering to fund a research on a new type of crash helmets that will provide enough ventilation. The target is to do away with 85% of the protective outer layer which provide 350% improvement in ventilation and 65% decrease in weight.

serious ka ni bang?

 

[climenta]

A brief note on the evolution of mat rempits in Malaysia (I'm going to start from the 90s, for those from the 80s & beyond pls feel free to add): -

Early 90s
- bikers with ethics. Riding & race around for the thrill & fun without bearing an expense on other road users.
- bikes commonly used : 2-stroke bikes i.e. Yamaha 100,SS,RXK, RXS, RXZ, Kawasaki Ninja 150, Suzuki RG, etc
Mid 90s
- increased usage of highly powered small bikes i.e. 2-stroke bikes i.e. Kawasaki Super KIPS, Honda NSRR, Yamaha TZM, TZR, Aprillia RS125, 250. similar ethics as above
- The commercialization of local capchai racing circuits across M'sia to combat illegal racing.
- daredevil riders are alot more common compared to previous years.
- heavy bohsia influence on the biking community, senang angkut
Late 90s / Early 00s
- This generation started to see cheaper underbone cubs with 4-stroke engines.
- illegal big money races, racing for the sole purpose of making money, all kind of bikes.. these bikes are usually funded by bikes shops... racing for fun still exists, similar ethics as above but the rowdy mentality visible.
2000 onwards
- wasn't really following the scene, was into big bikes. Guess this was the time mat rempits as we all see right now started to surface.

I'd associate myself with the type of bikers from early 90s, the ones with ethics & respect for other road users. Ride with the sole purpose of enjoying the wind & the scenery without really disturbing anyone else. Race around while trying not to cause harm to others. I'm sure that most of you former bikers would be thinking, what happened to that thrill of riding? Why do we now have these pariahs riding around town tormenting our souls?

Now where & how did it all go wrong? Education? Upbringing? Malaysia boleh?

 

[initialM]

A brief note on the evolution of mat rempits in Malaysia (I'm going to start from the 90s, for those from the 80s & beyond pls feel free to add): -

Early 90s
- bikers with ethics. Riding & race around for the thrill & fun without bearing an expense on other road users.
- bikes commonly used : 2-stroke bikes i.e. Yamaha 100,SS,RXK, RXS, RXZ, Kawasaki Ninja 150, Suzuki RG, etc
Mid 90s
- increased usage of highly powered small bikes i.e. 2-stroke bikes i.e. Kawasaki Super KIPS, Honda NSRR, Yamaha TZM, TZR, Aprillia RS125, 250. similar ethics as above
- The commercialization of local capchai racing circuits across M'sia to combat illegal racing.
- daredevil riders are alot more common compared to previous years.
- heavy bohsia influence on the biking community, senang angkut
Late 90s / Early 00s
- This generation started to see cheaper underbone cubs with 4-stroke engines.
- illegal big money races, racing for the sole purpose of making money, all kind of bikes.. these bikes are usually funded by bikes shops... racing for fun still exists, similar ethics as above but the rowdy mentality visible.
2000 onwards
- wasn't really following the scene, was into big bikes. Guess this was the time mat rempits as we all see right now started to surface.

I'd associate myself with the type of bikers from early 90s, the ones with ethics & respect for other road users. Ride with the sole purpose of enjoying the wind & the scenery without really disturbing anyone else. Race around while trying not to cause harm to others. I'm sure that most of you former bikers would be thinking, what happened to that thrill of riding? Why do we now have these pariahs riding around town tormenting our souls?

Now where & how did it all go wrong? Education? Upbringing? Malaysia boleh?

Wah macha ur like historian ler:wink:

Better start using kangaroo bar on yr BMW to avoid incoming bikers:103:

 

[ALBundy]

Dei thambee, early 90s you got license aledi ah??

 

[QD250]

still remember the days of the cagiva's and apprilia's....

 

[climenta]

Dei thambee, early 90s you got license aledi ah??

macha i come from kampung, must learn to ride motobike before ride basikal if not buat malu kaum. I started riding in 89, honda fame kat estate

 

[initialM]

macha i come from kampung, must learn to ride motobike before ride basikal if not buat malu kaum. I started riding in 89, honda fame kat estate

Wah macha from kapchai in estate to BMW in KL metropolitan,:top:

As long not become mat rempit sudah la:wink:

 

[ramsing]

macha i come from kampung, must learn to ride motobike before ride basikal if not buat malu kaum. I started riding in 89, honda fame kat estate

honda fame kah, honda pasola??? hehehe.....

 

[kayz]

macha i come from kampung, must learn to ride motobike before ride basikal if not buat malu kaum. I started riding in 89, honda fame kat estate

I still remember this honda fame:top:, with sq headlight and it very popular in kampung that time. lagi satu yg popular is RC80 & C70. Mod kaw2 and rempit in kampung area, jatuh kalu masuk parit or dalam sawah......ha....ha....ha:rock::rock:

 

[QD250]

my honda fame is still there at my father's house.... along with the basikal lumba..... mg midget oso got, tapi bapak punya....

 

[saat]

my honda fame is still there at my father's house.... along with the basikal lumba..... mg midget oso got, tapi bapak punya....

Ask your dad if he wants to sell the midget. I'm looking for a occupation when I retire next year. Kalu ada AH Sprite lagi bagus.

 

[okow]

Thanks to Climenta for categorizing and cataloging the 'history' of bike and biking from the 90's. Lets see how far back can my memory take me...
Japanese made Motorcycles were introduced into Malaysia in the 60's by none other than Mr Loh Boon Siew of then Boon Siew Motor fame..authorised dealer for Honda....before they manufactured cars. Mr Loh brought in the Honda Cub 50cc and it was almost an instant hit especially with Uni students.

Well, bikes here were around much earlier than that but were mainly British made, BSA, Ariel, Triumph, Indian and Nortons ruled our roads in those days. Unfortunately most were exported along with the expats and RAF when they left our country.

Biking in the 70's was sheer freedom and fun and there was certainly a very clear distinction between the pleasure riders and the commuters. Wearing a helmet was more a fad than mandatory by law. I was fortunate enough to pleasure ride and commute on my 100cc 'scrambler'... dirt riding, motorcrossing and trail riding gave me very good basics. Next came my Yamaha DS7 350.

So, I wasnt very aware of what the other smaller capacity bikes were but I think the popular rotiman bike was the Honda CG110 and the cops used the Suzuki T500 Titan.
In the 80's Yamaha introduced the RD's which evolved into the RD250 and 350LC (liquid cooled) Suzuki had the X7. This was the turning point for bikes and bikers as manufacturers were churning out very fast and sleek looking 2 stroke bikes that also handled very well. It had disc breaks compared to the conventional drums. Alloy wheels as opposed to steel and spokes.

There were NO rempits back then ...only illegal racers held either by individuals or bike shops and always backed by towkays and bookies. They would finance a mechanic (rider) from a bike shop and the rewards and prize money was huge...up to RM30,000 per race, 1 brand new bike for the winner and a girl for the night...that sort of started the bohsia culture....but thats another story for another day.

Popular stretches used were Federal Highway, the old Damansara Semantan road (no street lights then) Jln Tun Razak, Pandan roundabout etc.

These I believe this gave rise to the rempit culture and as bikes became more attractive looking with roads being better conditioned and law enforcers closing one or both eyes...it spead like wildfire. Now they ride in packs with 'herd' mentality. It also doesnt help when there are loopholes in the system where one can avoid taking a driving test but obtain a licence. What makes it worst is that when caught, it just takes as little as RM10-20 to get off the hook.
Enough from me for now...

 

[jarance]

Not forgetting the VESPA. When I was "young", use to follow Vespa racing at Batu Tiga circuit.

Remember the broad mudguard that is reduced the drag..