Ab Service Get Suxk!

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AB Malaysia:

After reading almost everything in this post, it sounded like what AB did was plain unacceptable and served nothing good other than damaging BMW’s customer service reputation, and the many fine cars they produced of course. I really feel your frustration as direct victims, not to mention the time lo$$ from work. The whole point is you just need them to pay attention, listen, and fix everything under warranty with a sense of professionalism as expected from dealership of this caliber. Besides, it doesn’t cost them a dime from warranty work; only keep them busy and to bring a happy customer back. About the looting of customer’s car, maybe a pre-hire background check of employees would help….depending on AB business strategy. Otherwise, that’s going to happen anyway…sad to say.

US BMW Dealer:

As comparison, my experience with a few authorized dealers here has been outstanding, from timely service, attitude, personal hygiene (use of deodorant included), warranty service, an even out of warranty grace period complimentary replacement where necessary (at the discretion of the service manager…and YES he has the authority to warrant such claim). Of course, there is this courtesy loaner car, which is the best part if they have to keep your car for more than a day. They don’t care if you drive an old junk (like my previous E28), entry level car (like I do) or a top of the line “M” cars, rest be assured that you’ll be treated the same, or almost. Some fine examples are:

- Replacement of entire speedo cluster after noticing 2 dead pixels (FOC under warranty).
- Replacement of water pump (with complete coolant flush) after minor coolant seepage was observed at the gasket during Inspection II (FOC under warranty).
- Complimentary replacement of lower thrust arm assembly (FOC 2 months after warranty expired).
- Replacement parts are OEM and brand spanking new, unless BMW doesn’t make them anymore and they will source a good rebuilt unit.

I’m not sure what is the BMW new vehicle warranty in Malaysia, but the standard BMW North America warranty is 4-yrs/50k miles, whichever comes first. After that, you can get the extended 100k if desired for a decent $$. Regardless, the same level of service should be expected from any BMW dealer worldwide.

What BMW Club Malaysia can do:

Get a petition and write to BMW AG to file a formal complain on the disappointment of the dealer(s) involved. If BMW care enough to produce great cars, the very least they can do is to listen and better still, revoking the license of rampant dealers. Include pictures if necessary to make a statement, including the toast E90 that started this thread etc.

Anyway, just my 2 cents and I hope this will bring a change to benefit die-hard fans like us. Even though it might not do anything, but at least you give it a shot.
 
Ingress service bay is at upper floor, so cannot see from the waiting hall. However, customers are allowed to enter the service bay but must be accompanied by Ingress staff for safety reason. Scared u knock on something and sue them.. :p
 
jeffphan;340139 said:
AB Malaysia:

After reading almost everything in this post, it sounded like what AB did was plain unacceptable and served nothing good other than damaging BMW’s customer service reputation, and the many fine cars they produced of course. I really feel your frustration as direct victims, not to mention the time lo$$ from work. The whole point is you just need them to pay attention, listen, and fix everything under warranty with a sense of professionalism as expected from dealership of this caliber. Besides, it doesn’t cost them a dime from warranty work; only keep them busy and to bring a happy customer back. About the looting of customer’s car, maybe a pre-hire background check of employees would help….depending on AB business strategy. Otherwise, that’s going to happen anyway…sad to say.

US BMW Dealer:

As comparison, my experience with a few authorized dealers here has been outstanding, from timely service, attitude, personal hygiene (use of deodorant included), warranty service, an even out of warranty grace period complimentary replacement where necessary (at the discretion of the service manager…and YES he has the authority to warrant such claim). Of course, there is this courtesy loaner car, which is the best part if they have to keep your car for more than a day. They don’t care if you drive an old junk (like my previous E28), entry level car (like I do) or a top of the line “M” cars, rest be assured that you’ll be treated the same, or almost. Some fine examples are:

- Replacement of entire speedo cluster after noticing 2 dead pixels (FOC under warranty).
- Replacement of water pump (with complete coolant flush) after minor coolant seepage was observed at the gasket during Inspection II (FOC under warranty).
- Complimentary replacement of lower thrust arm assembly (FOC 2 months after warranty expired).
- Replacement parts are OEM and brand spanking new, unless BMW doesn’t make them anymore and they will source a good rebuilt unit.

I’m not sure what is the BMW new vehicle warranty in Malaysia, but the standard BMW North America warranty is 4-yrs/50k miles, whichever comes first. After that, you can get the extended 100k if desired for a decent $$. Regardless, the same level of service should be expected from any BMW dealer worldwide.

What BMW Club Malaysia can do:

Get a petition and write to BMW AG to file a formal complain on the disappointment of the dealer(s) involved. If BMW care enough to produce great cars, the very least they can do is to listen and better still, revoking the license of rampant dealers. Include pictures if necessary to make a statement, including the toast E90 that started this thread etc.

Anyway, just my 2 cents and I hope this will bring a change to benefit die-hard fans like us. Even though it might not do anything, but at least you give it a shot.

hey jeff ur somewhere near GG bridge? i used to live on turk street near ocean beach, near the park :)
i totally agree with u on the need for professionalism in our local AB dealers.

maybe BMW AG does not know whats going on?

i am currently having a big headache with AB on my 1300 km brand spanking new e90.
 
bimmerdude;340146 said:
hey jeff ur somewhere near GG bridge? i used to live on turk street near ocean beach, near the park :)
i totally agree with u on the need for professionalism in our local AB dealers.

maybe BMW AG does not know whats going on?

i am currently having a big headache with AB on my 1300 km brand spanking new e90.

Bimmerdude:

No excuse especially you bought a new car from them, they are obligated to fix problems, instead of creating more.....we all have enough stuffs to worry about everyday and certainly don't need anything else from the dealer.

I actually live in the East Bay now, few blocks from UC Berkeley and Weatherford BMW. BMW of SF is excellent too but too much traffic to get there. You used to live close to Golden Gate Park?
 
less than 3 weeks after i got the car it had problems with the engine. its been delays and miscommunication(on their part) and incompetencies since car went in on jun16.

yes GG park was just opposite my rented place. really missed SF :)
 
Bimmerdude:

What exactly is the problem of your E90? I'll see if I can get you some answers. I know this Master Tech. pretty well and maybe he can help. Sounded like AB's definition of miscommunication = BS.
 
jeffphan;340405 said:
Bimmerdude:

What exactly is the problem of your E90? I'll see if I can get you some answers. I know this Master Tech. pretty well and maybe he can help. Sounded like AB's definition of miscommunication = BS.

well, actually they have identified (as told to me) the problem. the car was jerky at low revs, died once on me and on one occassion had loud tapping noises from the engine. all these happened after about 3 weeks after delivery. its a brand spanking new 2008 E90 320i sports CKD.
My issue is the delays in getting a new engine replacement. i am pissed at the local dealer service.
i would be curious to know what your Master Tech thinks about the symptoms i just described? is he a bmw specialist? i dont think this model is sold in the States.

cheers
 
Chat with him really quickly and he said LIGHT tapping is normal, which coincide with BMW claim especially when the car is started cold. He added even the 330i, 335i, X3have these weird hydraulic lifters noise, but they should go away after break in, some lingers on but that doesn't seemed to bother some owners.

He cannot assume anything on your 320si (N45??) since that model is not sold here and he can only assume that if the software upgrade is done, wiring harness checks out fine, and no error codes is registered, get them to replace the engine if the problem persists. Does the car has Valvetronic? You are not using any oil based air filter like K&N right? I had that happened once on my mk3 VW vr6, messed up the potentiometer inside the MAF, causing irratic idle and I got the MAF replaced under warranty anyway. Tossed the K&N and got ITG instead.

Anyway, your problems sounded pretty serious for a car that new. Keep me posted if the cause is identified.
 
jeffphan;340859 said:
Chat with him really quickly and he said LIGHT tapping is normal, which coincide with BMW claim especially when the car is started cold. He added even the 330i, 335i, X3have these weird hydraulic lifters noise, but they should go away after break in, some lingers on but that doesn't seemed to bother some owners.

He cannot assume anything on your 320si (N45??) since that model is not sold here and he can only assume that if the software upgrade is done, wiring harness checks out fine, and no error codes is registered, get them to replace the engine if the problem persists. Does the car has Valvetronic? You are not using any oil based air filter like K&N right? I had that happened once on my mk3 VW vr6, messed up the potentiometer inside the MAF, causing irratic idle and I got the MAF replaced under warranty anyway. Tossed the K&N and got ITG instead.

Anyway, your problems sounded pretty serious for a car that new. Keep me posted if the cause is identified.


at this point in time i am talking with the branch manager of the authorised dealer. new engine has been ordered from germany. according to the service advisor, the noise (loud tapping) was caused by a loose connecting pin of the con rod. how that happened i dont know. mine was a PUMA case.
car was in the shop since june16.
i am aware of the light tapping noise, but what i heard was LOUD tapping.
and there was a flat spot around the low revs, with jerky gear changes.
here's some info:
model type: E90 320i N46N
prod date 2007/11
engine N46N
non turbo, non idrive. stock standard.

this happened at about 1300km mileage. about 3 weeks after delivery.

cheers
 
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