20 Dead in Bus accident

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Easier said than done.

Diesel prices have gone up so much the past one year, similarly spare parts and etc, and most transport companies are not allowed to increase prices due to government's directive. Can we then blame the government??

Cheers.
 
boycott busses and travel in outstation taxi's larr ..pay slightly more , but end of the day peace of mind ..and also can drop you off at your door step ....

why travel by busses ... this is what you get if you're looking for a cheap way.
 
i remember one of my trips to alor star, the plusliner was overtaking me at 140kph on that stretch..

imagine...
 
well CSI results shows no tyre marks or brake marks on the road scene. Can anyone guess what was the driver doing?
 
kelvinp;239649 said:
well CSI results shows no tyre marks or brake marks on the road scene. Can anyone guess what was the driver doing?

I guess, the driver fell asleep at that moment as it's always dangerous to drive without enough rest!

Very tragic accident and with deepest condolences..............
 
Demerit points system fails : Failure in the system

KUALA LUMPUR: The Transport Ministry has admitted there are weaknesses in the demerit points penalty system that allows drivers to escape amassing “negative points” if they do not settle their summonses.

Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy said the demerit points system, or Kejara, was currently the weakest link in terms of enforcement. How many of you knew that the Kejara system was still enforced?

We are looking into it seriously and efforts will be made to improve the system so that it is more efficient,” he said yesterday,.."only after 19 innocent people lost their lives and dozens others mourning". as to why the bus driver involved in the Taiping bus accident was still allowed on the road even though he had 13 outstanding summonses.

According to the Road Transport Department (JPJ) website, drivers who commit traffic offences will be slapped with demerit points based on the severity of the offence.
Non-learner drivers, or those with competent driving licences, who collect more than 15 demerit points will have their licences suspended for six months.
Those who have more than 15 points a second time will have their licences suspended for a year and if repeated for a third time within five years, the driver will have his licence cancelled. If the driver does not commit an offence within two years, seven points will be taken off the total demerit points.
However, current implementation allows drivers to avoid collecting demerit points altogether if they do not settle their summonses. Drivers who refuse to hand in their licences after it has been suspended or cancelled also escape punishment.
Chan said he would brief the Cabinet today on the accident and would also recommend safety measures related to express buses.
Recommendations are expected to include the total fleet management of bus companies, implementing self-regulation measures by working with the Department of Occupational Safety and Health, and commercial vehicle drivers being required to attend training every few years.
Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan called for the re-enforcing of the demerit system to blacklist negligent drivers.
If the system is managed properly, we will be able to instil fear and prevent such drivers from being a menace (to other road-users).
“We are ever willing to cooperate with other authorities in enforcing the demerit system,” he told reporters after presenting a working paper at the 2007 National Assets and Facilities Management Convention here.
The IGP has also asked his traffic officers for an explanation why no action had been taken against the bus driver who has two warrant of arrests.
“We want to know how he managed to renew his licence despite having all the summonses,” Yes, please do tell us.he said.
 
In the star today...

Driver broke every law – and got away with it

PETALING JAYA: Rohizan Abu Bakar had committed every traffic offence possible and yet the system failed to keep him off the road.
The 37-year-old bus driver, who was killed with 19 of his passengers in one of the country's worst road accidents, habitually broke road rules over more than six years and chalked up 13 summonses - none of which have been settled - totalling RM1,980.
Rohizan had been caught speeding six times, for not wearing a seat belt, not producing a driving licence and driving a bus which did not have a permit.
He had accumulated enough demerit points to have his licence revoked but no authority ever caught on. However, The Star found all of Rohizan's wrongdoings by checking www.rileks.com.my – a social service website.
 
Did the system really fail or is just a convienient statement ? No pun itended here, but I would like to relate a little incident that happened to me in 2005.

I took delivery of my E36 on the 14th of may 2005 and that was the very same day BMW Club had a BBQ in PD organised by Kahar. So it was a Saturday and the dealer called me up to say I can pick my car up at about 12pm. By the time everything was sorted I got my car at about 2pm. Just like anybody I went to get the car checked first at the mechanic. After the whole afternoon and evening at the mechanic, I finally left the shop at about 8pm.

Now at about 9pm I drove to PD to meet up with the guys. I wasnt ready to rev up my baby yet as I just picked her up that day. So no speeding, Seat belts on, wasnt on the phone and I wasnt drunk. I get pulled over at a road block next to a police station. No issues as I know they were just doing their job. I put the window down and ' Selamat petang Encik ' and the guy just looks at me, call his superior who later asks me to pull over and to get out of the car. I complied. The first question that they asked me was who's car was this and what am I doing here. In my heart I was thinkin' ' Come on u dumb f**k, it an E36, its 10 years old ' Anyways they checked on their computers and Yes JPJ confirmed that the car was mine. My record was as clean as whistle. Cops not being satisfied walked around the car to see if I had done anything illegal. My car by the way was stock standard. Except for the number plate which was the metal silver ones. No issues I told the cop and told him that I will get it changed as I didnt have the time today. Your computer shows that my car was registered at 12pm today and I picked it up at 2 pm and I spent the whole day sorting out the major stuff like brakes and radiator and so forth first. I also told him the number plate was put there by the previous owner.

Here's the kicker - The dumb ass cop said that I should have looked into my number plate first as THAT was important and NOT the mechanics of my car... WTF !!! He would not let me go and dragged me and I mean literally dragged me into the station. There the inspector wrote me a summon and told me in a rude way to sign the slip and I had to. As I walked out I told the darn cop off.. I said ' kenapa... orang india tak boleh pandu BMW ker... ' and left. Its a minor mistake lah... and I didnt think it would be that serious. Exactly 2 weeks I had a warrant of arrest.. This mind boggled even my friends who in the legal field as well...

So, my question is why waste time on lil' things like this when they should be checking on more important things. Things that can take away a life. Some times the authorities can be mannerless morons that are so full of them selves.
 
' kenapa... orang india tak boleh pandu BMW ker...
The reason the cop stop you was not because you are indian which you are not, but the dont always see Sri Lankan driving BMW.Be proud of what you are. Indian konon Phuuuuuuuiiiiiiiii.
:rock::rock::rock::rock:
 
redbaron;239754 said:
' kenapa... orang india tak boleh pandu BMW ker...
The reason the cop stop you was not because you are indian which you are not, but the dont always see Sri Lankan driving BMW.Be proud of what you are. Indian konon Phuuuuuuuiiiiiiiii.
:rock::rock::rock::rock:

hahahahahaha.... patato potato lah !!! :thefinger:
 
sith..i had the bloody same experience before and i really know the frustration at that particular time...damn i felt like kicking that fellows arse!!

But then again, that is how much some of the local mentality cops can go far enough and no use complaining about it....And I believe, probably most of the buses out there has more then 15 summons on them..

Too bad in Malaysia, people have to die 1st always before a stricter rule is implemented.
 
Welcome to malaysia.What ever the wrong doing happening in the country we are equaly to be blame for it.
 
redbaron;239766 said:
Welcome to malaysia.What ever the wrong doing happening in the country we are equaly to be blame for it.


IMHO I think the only blame I can see that we should be responsible for is allowing our opinions to supresed. Malaysians generally are happy in their comfort zones and refuse to acknowledge the shite that goes on. Imagine 20 people dies and theres a crack down on buses ? What gives ? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that most of the express buses arent road worthy and are flauting the law. How many times have we been on convoys where we see speeding buses and yet we get caught for going slightly over the speed limit.... geeesss
 
That is live my friend. All you guys only complaint do some thing la. If you think this is bad try going to pakistan, india, thailand,sri lanka i think you guys will be dead or wont last there for one day. the law says anthing big is always wrong no matter who's fault is it. Mr Sith is knows vietnam very well .
 
Pure and simple analysis, like all things Malaysian...the authorities fxxked up... at least they are consistent with their track record :smokin:

The corruption and 'tidak apa' attitude is finally taking its toll for everyone to see...now whether you wanna see it or not. You can stick ur head in the sand and indulge in your blissful ignorance or...make a change...for the better. How much more are we willing to sacrifice? I'm not! Enough is enough... I dun wan my kids growing up in conditions like this. But I'm not willing to run away to greener pastures... Its time we took a stand and do the necessary.... :rock:
 
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