Type of modification on your E90

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E46Fanatic;431528 said:
Here I am getting all excited with 3 hp gains from a performance intake. My next car has to be force fed :rolleyes:

IMHO, small to moderate gains is the right way to look at mods. More than that should be through model upgrade, not through mods.
 
Spaceman;431591 said:
i smell a Twin Turbo is coming very soon...:top:

Hehehehe... we'll see after his vengeance re-match with David Yong...

BlackE90, time to orgynise another E90 drive lah... Meinauto has to be the sweeper though or else all of us going to get lost if he's in front, heh!
 
We finally managed to squeeze in a real world "performance test" last night after a long overdue rematch. The cars which showed up were:

1) E90 330i + HiOP tune
2) E90 330i + BMW Performance Intake (+ spare tyre)
3) E46 330ci - spare tyre :)
4) E90 325i + BMW Performance Intake
5) E90 325i + Sprint Booster

All cars were on non RFTs, and 3/4 tank of VPower except for mine (just slightly below 1/2 tank of vpower). All cars shod on 18' OEM BMW staggered wheels except mine which was 18' Volks and DY's on aftermarket staggered 18's. All cars were lowered with a combo of M sport suspension, Eibachs, to KWv3 and KWv2.

The 3.0 Ltr Tests:
The HiOP tune 330i is the fastest of the 3.0 ltr class test. From 0-100 its got a slight edge with the E90 with BMW Performance Intake, but after 140km/h onwards the HiOP tune 330i with the additional ~10hp + ~7NM torque will have the advantage and will keep pulling away.

The E46 330Ci (facelift) was bone stock with just the spare tyre delete mod :). On paper the E46 330ci has 231hp some 30hp less than the E90 330i's but similar amt of torque. The E46 also has some ~70kgs weight advantage over the E90s as well, but on 5 spd gear ratios while the E90's were on 6 speed gearbox ratios. Tests revealed that the E46 330i vs. the E90 330i + BMW perf intake to be quite even (E90 slight edge) till ~140 km/h whereby the E90 330i with its added horses, will start to pull away from the E46 330i. When they hit 180-200 km/h, the E90 330i is ~ 1-2 cars ahead of the E46 330i.


The 2.5 ltr tests:
Unlike the previous matchup with DY's famed freaky fast car, this time, I was on VPower with the new BMW Performance Intake. Previously I was running Primax + a K&N drop in filter. This time around, from a stand still, the E90 325i with the Performance Intake gets an advantage over the sprint boosted E90 325i, off the line and pulls ahead ~1/2 ->1 car length till ~100km/h. Overall, even in the top end,the BMW Performance intake advantage shows, and keeps the car pulling gradually over the "stock" 325i.

The 2.5 ltr vs. E46 330ci test:
So we matched up the E90 325i + BMW perf intake with the E46 330ci. Well with 0.5 ltr displacement disadvantage, and some ~10hp, and ~50NM down, it was kinda expected that the E46 330ci was gonna be quicker. I got a better launch, and jumped the E46 330i by ~1/2 car. Was still ahead through 1st, and by 2nd, the 330i was reeling me in, and by 3rd, the 330Ci passed my car and will keep pulling away. Moral of the story, no replacement for displacement.

Summary:
Overall assessment. On previous matchup's all E90 325i which ran with DY had aftermarket intakes, K&N drop in element and the Simota intake. DY's intake was stock. Every car was slower compared to DY's car in our test, which could mean that the cars loss power after the intake mod (some speculation in German forums this is due to turbulent airflow in the intake and ECU cuts back power as a result) DY's car was always noticably faster in these tests. The BMW Performance intake however, does give real claimed gains by BMW, and it's shown this time around to give that added advantage. So the butt dyno was validated, last night, and the BMW Performance intake for the E90 325i is really a good performance mod for our cars. The HiOP tune is also a good mod, and will really show towards the top end as well as seen in the 330i matchups.

I have a feeling after these revelations, more folks will be ordering in the BMW Perf intake :). Not just more garang sound from the intake but real perf gains as well. Well done to the BMW performance team for designing a great intake :).
 
great write-up E46f! wah, go racing but never call me :(

anyway, good to know that the performance intake works. Speaking of BMW Performance parts, i have two questions

  • The intake you got, is that the EU version of the US version?
  • Similarly, when quoted RM4.6k for the performance exhaust, was that the EU or US version?
There is apparently a difference. Eg, the exhausts Fred brought in are the US version which includes the secondary cat delete ie an additional mid-pipe is included whereas for the EU version, it is only the muffler. Hence, for the US version, sound is different and the exhaust is more free flowing
 
Sure will call you but no evenly matched cars in our run to mate with your M3. We were thinking maybe next time Velocity with the Vishnu 335i should come out to play with your M3, also one of the forummers here has a AMG CLK E55 which blew our doors off sometime back when we tested. So next time we'll arrange that. Also, we might be seeing some upgrades from existing forummers soon, possibly a E92 M3 6 spd or a 335i DCT on the way hehe. Will call u la in the next tests.

The Perf intake we ordered is the EU version with the conical filter element. The US one is more restrictive with a square filter element. Didn't realize that there was difference in the BMW Perf exhaust as well. But I gave the following part no for them to quote:

Muffler System - BMW PERFORMANCE 118100443580

CLAMPING BUSH 118107528086

Is that an EU or US ver? Speedrats might be looking at it now for his E90 330i. Told him to look for Freddie and then we can re-test vs. the HiOP tune 330i :wink:
 
Thanks for your update, bro. You know ah, I was contemplating "showing-up" as I watched my clock but just couldn't get out of my air-cond bedroom and pyjamas. I'm also glad that the bmw performance air intake showed its potential in a test like this cos I always felt the overall performance gain. The best 4 grand I ever spent.

On the HiOP mod, was the advantage "convincing" enough to justify the mod? It seems that it only kicks in after 140 kmh which is odd considering the 7 Nm torque gain. I can't handle any loss in low end torque just to make up with better high end torque.

BTW, what happened to the stock E90 323i that was suppose to show up, heh?
 
E46Fanatic;432495 said:
Sure will call you but no evenly matched cars in our run to mate with your M3. We were thinking maybe next time Velocity with the Vishnu 335i should come out to play with your M3, also one of the forummers here has a AMG CLK E55 which blew our doors off sometime back when we tested. So next time we'll arrange that. Also, we might be seeing some upgrades from existing forummers soon, possibly a E92 M3 6 spd or a 335i DCT on the way hehe. Will call u la in the next tests.

The Perf intake we ordered is the EU version with the conical filter element. The US one is more restrictive with a square filter element. Didn't realize that there was difference in the BMW Perf exhaust as well. But I gave the following part no for them to quote:

Muffler System - BMW PERFORMANCE 118100443580

CLAMPING BUSH 118107528086

Is that an EU or US ver? Speedrats might be looking at it now for his E90 330i. Told him to look for Freddie and then we can re-test vs. the HiOP tune 330i :wink:

for the intake, both EU and US have the cone filters. Only that the US version replaces the entire airbox while the EU one does not

I think the part no above is for the EU version. US version ends with 579
 
No le. Saw the pics of the US installs and they were square filters. Also the differences shows up on RealOEM :wink:.

US BMW Performance intake:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=VB33&mospid=48523&btnr=13_1289&hg=13&fg=95
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Euro BWM Performance Intake:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=VH56&mospid=50153&btnr=13_1280&hg=13&fg=95
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Just spoke to Freddie who also complained no one called him for the "drive". He also explained to me the difference between the US and EU specs for the BMW Performance sports exhaust as what meinauto said. Anyways, he is personally trying the exhaust next week and will let us know the difference. I suppose we can all test drive his car once it's done.

Also, he will provide quotes for the performance air intake and exhaust today. Will let you guys know.
 
Thanks for the great write-up E46F! :top:

Just curious, where do you guys do the tests? If the location is to be kept secret from the boys in black & white, I'd appreciate a PM. :p
 
let me know when is the next meet up. i blog hop n this blogger recently purchased a 09 325 model. ahahah he plans to join the next e9x session ..
 
Schwepps;432524 said:
Just curious, where do you guys do the tests? If the location is to be kept secret from the boys in black & white, I'd appreciate a PM. :p

Thanks for the info E46F! You guys are eevil... :D
 
racheltoh;432556 said:
let me know when is the next meet up. i blog hop n this blogger recently purchased a 09 325 model. ahahah he plans to join the next e9x session ..

Oh good... more kaki to racun, hehehehe...:top:
 
Wah! We can promote Rachel to be our E9x ambassador.. or does the word "Queen" sounds better.. :D :D
 
Eh, how come only E46F has given his report? What happened to the rest who made the "drive" last night? BTW, I had lunch with E46F to get a blow by blow account.
 
woohoo...very interesting to read your review FJ!

kinda itchy to remap my ECU now...at least there's still hope for our NA N52. if i add some gadgets like the velocity adjustable booster n some mod on the ignition with Volker Spec II iridium plugs (just bought last week not installed yet), the outcome might be more interesting! wow, lots of things running in my mind now, you r one poisonous snake!
 
heard about damn good review about these little thing (hand made by Volker), the result is even creamier n smoothier rev throughout the rpm where the engine becomes more responsive..:top:

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Juan Powerblow;432640 said:
Looks good. Do share your experience when you install 'em. And, where to buy ah?

got em from R2D in S'pore. can look up from SG-BMW.com :wink:
 
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