Originally posted by yolk@Jun 20 2006, 05:13 PM
yup i also find ebc highly over rated .. the green stuff gives out damn lotsa brake dust .. we used to call it free dust instead of dust free pads. . hahaha .. red stuff is okay for occasional track but definately will not last for merdeka race la .. maybe the yellow/blue stuff will be better suited for endurance racing .. now i'm on mintex M1144 so far so good .. 10 laps in sepang and the brakes still works everytime at the 100-80m mark on the front straight ...
Also I've spoken to the Pro-rs guys before and they said their brake hoses have teflon and based on the same material as the bfgoodrich only difference is the crimp/head/connector is of cheaper material hence the reduced cost. Have been using it for 2 years now and so far so good with the ocassional track day of coruse :nyehehe:
Been using the OEM EBC (Black) on my Citroen - Done about 55,000kms on them and only half way down.
Find that the pads need to be warmed up before they bite. I guess its because the optimal operating temperature is higher than standard.
The fact that it lasts a lot longer than the original pads (which lasted about 22000km) is indicative that it is harder than original. Will proly be moving back to oem standard. Pricewise, it was RM180 for the fronts (about 5-6 yrs ago). Just bot a set made by OEM supplier, Valeo for RM115.
The different colours of EBC pads reflect the maximum temperature range that the brakes work effectively. The lowest temperature range goes from black, green, red and finally to yellow.
Applications
Black= Street and Fast Street
Green=Street, Fast Street and Light Weight Race Cars
Red=Fast Street, Rally, Medium Weight Race Cars
Yellow= Heavier Weight Race and Rally Cars, BTCC, Endurance Racing.
As you go up the performance ladder, you will find that the pads may not be suitable for normal street use as the temperatures do not get near the optimal temperatures.
Back to the topic:
I have been using the Pro-RS lines for the past two years and have no complaints. Main improvements is in the brake feel and less sponginess in the brake pedal.
Other ways to improve your braking would be to go for bigger brake booster (servo) (biggest bang for buck), 4 pot or even 6 pot calipers.