Effectiveness of Spray Wax

[Eggie86]

Hey guys,Just wanted to canvass some feedback regarding usage of those spray-type waxes. Not those liquid wax like the Meg's Gold Class which still requires buffing via applicator pad, but those using a spray bottle. Actually had some time to kill on Sat morn, so after washing my car with ONR, I suddenly felt like using the TurtleWax Spray Wax that has been lying forlornly for a year now... So, there I was, rising up at 7:30am, just to wash my ride, before the sun was even out, gently spreading the wax all over the upper portion of the car, and lightly buffing it with a microfibre cloth, which became increasingly damp as time went on. Initially I was tempted to use the Megs' Quik Detailer, but then I decided that I would like to try the Spray Wax to see just how effective it would turn out to be.So, after about an hour, I finished buffing and waxing the car, without claying of course, and well, I think I am quite satisfied with the 'faux' or temporary protection. Of course, nothing beats good old paste/liquid waxes... :4:Anyways, later that evening, after a slight drizzle, lo and behold, the car was beading all over again. And this time, the beads were smaller. Which reminded me of what Seech said before, in that the smaller the beading, the greater the water/surface tension... Quite happy but knowing how lazy I can be at times, the next waxing session for the E32 will probably be in June... :24:

 

[mizhan]

i used Meguiar's Quick Detailer on the E30 yesterday.. i swear the car is even more red now!

 

[Eggie86]

i used Meguiar's Quick Detailer on the E30 yesterday.. i swear the car is even more red now!

Fuyoh, pics pics pics.

Hehehe. I'm sure she's looking stunning now bro.

 

[mizhan]

she's just sleeping at home bro.. waiting for phonecall from the paintshop.

 

[Eggie86]

she's just sleeping at home bro.. waiting for phonecall from the paintshop.

Still need to touch up on the paint? I thought you previously mentioned that she had been treated to some very good paintwork earlier on in your thread Mizhan...

Cannot wait to see the end result. Would be absolutely stunning to see in the flesh. :top:

 

[jarance]

I have used ONR liquid wax after a good wash with ONR. Make waxing a breeze.

Unfortunately, it dont last very long as compare to solid wax. Any way to make it last longer.

 

[ICEMAN 68]

I have used ONR liquid wax after a good wash with ONR. Make waxing a breeze.

Unfortunately, it dont last very long as compare to solid wax. Any way to make it last longer.

it's best if you could keep your car garaged for a day after waxing and not to wash it for a couple of days ....

 

[Eggie86]

it's best if you could keep your car garaged for a day after waxing and not to wash it for a couple of days ....

What does it do Ice? Helps to 'cure' the paint a while longer before using it on our roads and exposing it to the elements?

 

[maxxsp]

What does it do Ice? Helps to 'cure' the paint a while longer before using it on our roads and exposing it to the elements?

All waxes and sealants have a curing time which usually ranges from 24-72 hours.

Regarding your first post, some spray waxes are just as effective as 'normal' waxes. Optimum Car Wax is a good example. It provides more protection than most off the shelf products like Gold Class & NXT.

 

[ALBundy]

Eggie, it all depends on what you want. I have used Quik Detailer and NXT tech wax. Good stuff and work as claimed.

Compared to the Professional Class, it doesn't last as long and obviously the results not as good.

What I did was I bought a multi speed rotary buffer (Made in China type which many paint shops are using, instead of Black and Decker which costs thrice more), got 2 polishing pads from Hypercoat (8000 and 9000 grit) and one bottle each of Meguairs Dual Cut and Sealant Wax. In between I bought some Eagle brand carnuba wax from Eneos.

The result is immensely satisfying, and pretty fast to detail a car as well, with the rotary buffer

 

[Eggie86]

All waxes and sealants have a curing time which usually ranges from 24-72 hours.

Regarding your first post, some spray waxes are just as effective as 'normal' waxes. Optimum Car Wax is a good example. It provides more protection than most off the shelf products like Gold Class & NXT.

Thanks for the lowdown Maxx. But just curious, as much as effectiveness is at question here, it all boils down to whether sufficient surface prep has been carried out right? I mean, many of us wouldn't have the time to clay the car and re-apply the wax on a frequent basis, hence the rise of these 'convenient' stuff like the spray on, walk away stuff like UQD etc.

Obviously the results won't be as good as a car that's been fully clayed and prepped up and waxed...

Btw, what product would you recommend best for such instances, when I would just want to have that little beading effect brought back after a normal car wash? Quik Detailer? I remembered there wasn't any 'obvious' residue on the paint when I used UQD, but there was some form of buffing/oily marks when I was using the Turtle Wax Spray...

 

[ArrioBMW]

Just sharing my experince, I find Optimum Spray Wax (spray, wipe and walk away) is much more effective if were to compare to UQD, then I would finish off with Optimum Detailer.. so far so good BUT if were to compare conventional waxing, the latter should be more lasting. Afterall, spray wax is for lazy people like me

If one carrries out their own washing on weekly basis, personally I find spray wax is soooo convenient.. A complete car wash + waxing + detailer in less than 15 mins .. another 5 mins using spray on 'ICE' emm from Turtle for seats..all done in 20mins.

 

[jarance]

Just sharing my experince, I find Optimum Spray Wax (spray, wipe and walk away) is much more effective if were to compare to UQD, then I would finish off with Optimum Detailer.. so far so good BUT if were to compare conventional waxing, the latter should be more lasting. Afterall, spray wax is for lazy people like me

If one carrries out their own washing on weekly basis, personally I find spray wax is soooo convenient.. A complete car wash + waxing + detailer in less than 15 mins .. another 5 mins using spray on 'ICE' emm from Turtle for seats..all done in 20mins.

ahhh... You use Optimum Detailer at the last step. No wonder, mine dont last as long lar.. Thanks for the head up..

 

[Eggie86]

Some pics to share... Still able to get a decent beading effect although the car hasn't been washed since Saturday afternoon.

 

[maxxsp]

Thanks for the lowdown Maxx. But just curious, as much as effectiveness is at question here, it all boils down to whether sufficient surface prep has been carried out right? I mean, many of us wouldn't have the time to clay the car and re-apply the wax on a frequent basis, hence the rise of these 'convenient' stuff like the spray on, walk away stuff like UQD etc.

Obviously the results won't be as good as a car that's been fully clayed and prepped up and waxed...

Btw, what product would you recommend best for such instances, when I would just want to have that little beading effect brought back after a normal car wash? Quik Detailer? I remembered there wasn't any 'obvious' residue on the paint when I used UQD, but there was some form of buffing/oily marks when I was using the Turtle Wax Spray...

You are correct. If your surface prep is good, waxes will also last longer as they adhere to the surface better. If the condition of your paint is good, a spray wax like OCW (Optimum Car Wax) should be as easy to use as a quick detailer.

For your situation, I would recommend you carry out a thorough surface prep (clay, paintwork correction or at least a cleanser) followed by a coat of OCW (Optimum Car Wax) immediately. After the next 24 hours, re-wash the car apply another coat of OCW. Repeat until you have 3-4 coats of OCW. After that a wash and OCW every week should be sufficient to keep your car in good condition for the next 8 months or so without further prepping.

If you like I can have a look at the condition of your paintwork and if its not too bad I have some P21S Paint Cleaner that I can let you try, if you are interested leave me a PM.

 

[Eggie86]

That's very kind of you Maxxsp. I tend to clay, wax probably once every 6 months when it coincides with my study leave. Another thing is that I do everything by hand, so I do get tired easily. And I did learn from Iceman when he actually advised me to leave the first layer of wax to cure for about 3-4 hours before buffing it off, and subsequently before reapplying a second layer later on to lock in the effect of the wax.

Of course, due to my laziness and lack of covered parking bay, and lacking a rotary, I often tend to spend about 3-4 hours during my simple detailing sessions. But I will bear in mind of the need to let the wax cure for much longer before buffing it off. Previously I only left it for about 30mins max before the urge to wipe it off comes into play.

I used to have a simple B&D ROB, but it got damaged after my careless mistake so no machine-help sadly.

Anyways, will PM you soon. KC has seen my paint, but I haven't had the time to let him detail my ride. And believe me, it's quite awful once you see it in the flesh. Car has like a pimple-like appearance due to the various pock-marked rainish stains...

You are correct. If your surface prep is good, waxes will also last longer as they adhere to the surface better. If the condition of your paint is good, a spray wax like OCW (Optimum Car Wax) should be as easy to use as a quick detailer.

For your situation, I would recommend you carry out a thorough surface prep (clay, paintwork correction or at least a cleanser) followed by a coat of OCW (Optimum Car Wax) immediately. After the next 24 hours, re-wash the car apply another coat of OCW. Repeat until you have 3-4 coats of OCW. After that a wash and OCW every week should be sufficient to keep your car in good condition for the next 8 months or so without further prepping.

If you like I can have a look at the condition of your paintwork and if its not too bad I have some P21S Paint Cleaner that I can let you try, if you are interested leave me a PM.

 

[Eggie86]

Can share some of the pics of my paintwork from an earlier thread:

Very dreadful pitting stains on all top-facing surfaces - engine hood, boot, and roof.

Very painful to watch, and yet, all I do is still wash her regularly in the hopes of maintaining that shine.