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affan66;465407 said:
it is dependent on your EWS module... I believe you need the VIN number. When I ordered mine from AB, the VIN will determine which key I need. Check if you can do so with the Online ETK.

Country-specific versions


General
Due to the different approval regulations for radio equipment in various countries, two different versions of the transmitter and stop filter are used.

433.92 MHz version
For all European countries (EUR version)

315 MHz version
Mainly intended for USA, Canada and Australia.

Look like we fall under Europe Spec.
 
Gentlemen,

I believe the rechargeable battery of my diamond remote control key is dead. I have tried recharging it by using it for the past 1 week without any success. Anyone know of any shops that can replace the recharable battery?? Thanks.
 
herbert;478319 said:
Gentlemen,

I believe the rechargeable battery of my diamond remote control key is dead. I have tried recharging it by using it for the past 1 week without any success. Anyone know of any shops that can replace the recharable battery?? Thanks.

Maybe you can try any locksmith...
 
herbert;478319 said:
Gentlemen,

I believe the rechargeable battery of my diamond remote control key is dead. I have tried recharging it by using it for the past 1 week without any success. Anyone know of any shops that can replace the recharable battery?? Thanks.

The key is not design to have the battery replaced but it can be done.

All you need it to cut the side of the key to open the key cover. You have to desolder the dead battery and replace with new. You can seal back the cover with black silicon.

This is how it look like internally when the cover is cut open.
bmwkey1.jpg
 
Jarance,

Thanks for the reply. Do you know the where to purchase the battery and what is the specs (voltage, type etc)?
 
herbert;478359 said:
Jarance,

Thanks for the reply. Do you know the where to purchase the battery and what is the specs (voltage, type etc)?

CR2025 3 volts.. Non rechargable type.

Pasar road off jalan Pudu..
 
jarance;478355 said:
The key is not design to have the battery replaced but it can be done.

All you need it to cut the side of the key to open the key cover. You have to desolder the dead battery and replace with new. You can seal back the cover with black silicon.

This is how it look like internally when the cover is cut open.
bmwkey1.jpg
Jarance,
Another case of "open heart surgery"? :eek:
Herbert, believe me, this is definately not for the faint hearted :wink:
 
I found this from another website, hope it helps happy diy folks.

Yeah, my range for the key remote has been bad lately. So I ordered two new batteries from mouser.com I ordered two if these: VL2020-1HF since that's what I read elsewhere. These do not fit, you have to mess with them to make them fit. But shoot, this is a diy, that's why you are reading this. Please accept the stadard disclaimer that this is at your risk, I am not responsible for your problems, etc. Ok, here is what the stock cell looks like:

Two pins, about 90 degrees off:

DSC00472.jpg


Here is what the mouser cell looks like:

DSC00473.jpg


People always say: "I had to bend it a little" man this is a LOT of bending.

Ok, forst things first: the tools

DSC00459.jpg


Standard fare, BUT the knives:

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The flat exacto is PERFECT for cutting the key open, which is where I start:

Start from the rear, behind the key ring:

DSC00462.jpg


Then push to the meaty part of the key:

DSC00463.jpg


You will have to do SOME of this around the perimeter to open the key. This resulted in NO marks to the key intself, only to the stuff between the two layers

Removed the back and you get here

DSC00466.jpg


GENTLY pry board from face of key to get here:

DSC00470.jpg


Ok, look above. See Where the needle is pointing? Year that and the one on the other side, closest to the camera, need to be heated up., If you heat it, you can pop out the solder tabs of the existing battery.

CAREFUL!!! Do not heat them up too much, on one key, I put too much heat, details later!

Ok, once the solder lets go, the old cell will fall right out. What I ended up doing was, tearing the old thin tab from the old cell, and then soldering it to the new cell. Remember, the arms are TOTALLY off on the new cell, so you can;t get it to go in the correct holes. I take the old skinny:

DSC00475.jpg


Put some flux on the top, and tin it with solder. Then solder the tab into the circuit board. Now take the new cell, cut off the old skinny tab, not all, just the thick part, and then solder the thick tab in. Both tabs are now in, but the cell is not connected to the lower tab. Looks like this:

DSC00476.jpg


Now, heat the solder on the skinny tab, and when hot, fold the new cell on it. The solder tabs sill be soldered together. Even if this does not work, the pressure on the cell when the key s closed will keep it working. OK, all done. Use the Goop, that stuff is an awesome adhesive: (I build remote controlled planes, I have every adhesive at my disposal, and this is the best for this job, and can be purchased at any hardware store). Take the goop on the tip of your finger, and then apply generously to the edge of the key. Close it up, and now, with the key closed, rum in all the excess goop that flowed out when you closed the key. Kind of message it back in. This will make a total mess. BUT, you know wrap the key in a rubber band, or clamp it shut. 1 hour later, return to the key, remove the clamps or bands, and rub the edge of the key with your finger. You rub for 2 minutes, ALL EXCESS GOOP will be gone. Thing is water tight now,

enjoy the fact that you spent $5 per cell, plus $5 for ground delivery (mandatory by law for lithium batteries) and saved $600 from dealer. Remember to go down and re initiate both keys


Horror story: On one key, I overheated a joint. Long story short, when I put the new one in there, the old solder would not stick to the circuit board. No matter what (maybe too much flux was applied? I would not use any again on there). So, I solder a lot, and keep testing. Nothing. Finally, I decide to solder a wire from the tab, to where I thikn the old leads go. Nothing. Open the working key, and find only two places the big solder tab goes to. Solder mini jumpers from the new tab to the spots, and bingo! It works. Still need to see if it will charge, but I think it is ok. BE CAREFUL!
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thanks covert for the DIY picture..

I almost have a heart attack looking at the procedure...
 
DSC00475.jpg



BTW, it is quite difficult to solder the original lead to the battery because it is stainless steel material.

better to use a small wire or paper clip instead.

The above picture show 4 dots which is actually arc weld. Normal solder does not work on it.
 
X Benz;478860 said:
Jarance,

How are you? Miss you guys Chuah and your self. I m based in HCMC Vietnam now. Will be back for CNY. hope to catch up with you guys by then. Thanks man all the information. I had been trying to open the diamond key. How is to be open?

Fine lah.. cheh you go to HCMC also never inform.. when coming back?

so where your car. need somebody to take care of it..

I think the posting be covert shows clearly how to cut and open. I am thinking getting a miniature cutter to do the job. Need it as I repair battery pack for laptop as well. A bit of a hassle to cut with blade.
 
Thanks Jarance, I almost cut my 2nd key the last time I tried to recharge it. I thought the battery was dead.
Yesterday I decided to try the initiation process, and presto! it work just fine. Now I can work the alarm with both keys.
 
e39touring..thanks for the confirmation.

btw, sometime the key cannot work because the antenna amplifier is faulty.

Do exchange the key every 2 months or so to prevent the key from getting out of syn with the GM5 module.
Apparently, there is a counter which keep track of the key being used.
 
jarance;465299 said:
Theoretically, YES!!!.. the GM5 module can be program to received 10 keys. but I haven't try it before.

I have read in other forum that uncut key bought from ebay can synchronize. (Note: ebay key are not rechargeable type)

If you buy key from chop shop, they are already precut... How you intend to make it fit your ignition???

Bro Jarance

Anyway to resynchronize the ebay uncut key, mine was rechargeable type from ebay (Spare Key)

Thank you very much in advance.
 
Alex5522;549222 said:
Bro Jarance

Anyway to resynchronize the ebay uncut key, mine was rechargeable type from ebay (Spare Key)

Thank you very much in advance.

Yes, you can syn your key from ebay by following the procedure as stated in post #6 of this thread.

However, even if the resyn is successful, you can ONLY open or closed the door with the remote but I am not sure whether you can start the car as the transponder (chip) from ebay is not code with the EWS module. Usually, people remove the transponder from old key and transfer it to the new key in order to get it working.
 
jarance;549224 said:
Yes, you can syn your key from ebay by following the procedure as stated in post #6 of this thread.

However, even if the resyn is successful, you can ONLY open or closed the door with the remote but I am not sure whether you can start the car as the transponder (chip) from ebay is not code with the EWS module. Usually, people remove the transponder from old key and transfer it to the new key in order to get it working.

Bro

Just tell u the story about my spare key. Since i got my car last May from a used car dealer without spare key provided to me. The dealer only repay me $300 and ask me to make the spare key by my self and did introduce me 2 no contact of the key maker.
I call up one of them and mention that i want a set of spare key which MUST works with REMOTE CONTROL DOORS and START THE CAR. If either one function did not work i will NEVER pay any single cents to him. So that guy said no problem.
All the way down from KL to S'ban to make my key, finally the guy get nothing from me becoz he can't manage to make the key according to my specification. The key manage to START the car BUT cannot OPEN the door by the REMOTE CONTROL.

Finally that guy go bck KL and tell me to wait and he will come bck with a solution.
Now i have the spare key ONLY can START the car but CANNOT OPEN the door with the remote control.
I did ask the guy what's the problem and he did told me that the 2 chips inside the key cannot works together.
Once he put the 2 chips together the Electronic Bord can't read the frequency.

Hopefully from my description above u can help me to make my spare key work perfectly.

Thnks
 
Alex, what is the frequency of the key?

Which chip are you referring to? Normally the chip are surface mounted. it is not easy to "put them together"

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e46tranponder.jpg
 
jarance;549272 said:
Alex, what is the frequency of the key?

Which chip are you referring to? Normally the chip are surface mounted. it is not easy to "put them together"

e46crystalosillator.jpg


e46tranponder.jpg

I'm not very sure the actual frequency already but it was somewhere around 300+ mhz.

According to that guy the 2pcs of chips is for :
1 ) Start The car - build in with key
2 ) Door Remote Control - separately from key
 
Alex5522;549318 said:
I'm not very sure the actual frequency already but it was somewhere around 300+ mhz.

According to that guy the 2pcs of chips is for :
1 ) Start The car - build in with key
2 ) Door Remote Control - separately from key

No wonder no sound no picture lar.

313 MHz is for USA region..

433.92 MHz is for Malaysia and Europe region.

Pls refer to above pic - Crystal Oscillator frequency..
 
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