BMW 320d Sports - Limited Edition

[stanleycck]

why so quiet everybody?

Doc.......Silence is Virtue...........Peace to all..........long live Bimmers...........:rock::rock:

 

[docrayboy]

Doc.......Silence is Virtue...........Peace to all..........long live Bimmers...........:rock::rock:

Of course stanley! The BMW is a great car to drive...that much is true and all will agree I'm sure! Enjoying every minute of driving it! Drive safe everybody...don't bang it, cos it'll never be the same again despite getting repaired.

 

[nazrie]

Patience is a VIRTUE

Silence is GOLDEN

 

[sharp]

My sincere apologies to you and all 320d and 320i owners. I was one of the first to praise the 320d until the discussion got poisoned. Both are fine cars, as are all BMWs. Peace bro!

apology not accepted unless u buy me TT

 

[astroboy]

.. all 320i deserved, I deeply hurt due to the 6-cyl bully.. *sob*sob..

TTDI tonight?! Perfume? Tao? Simone? Bambo9? Waikiki2?

What silent? I still here..

jeng..jeng..jeng..

 

[pussy]

what la.. all this heated up debate...the 4pot has it's advantages and so do the 6 pot engines.. i wonder how is the e92///M3 handles ? Vlapan in front...

actually, the 4 cylinder in the e90 is very balanced... seen the e90's take the corners during the hill drives is superb, better than my e30 6 pot...not to mentioned David Yong's old 325i which was very fast during the descend down..

BMW made the 4,6,8,10 & 12 pots engines with power to suit each specific models..

 

[turbology]

What an utterlly rubbish!
What of waste of time to argue and debating Torque and HP.
After spending 10+ years explaning and educating, most people/car lover/"typing warrior"/enthusiast still don't get it!!

HP is Torque!
Torque is HP!

HP = Torque x RPM / 5252
Torque = HP x 5252 / RPM

WAKE UP. Pointless to argue.
A trip up Genting or Cameron Highlands will explain why the F1 cars never use diesel engine.

 

[David Yong]

No more argue means this thread not lively anymore. It has suddenly became a boring thread hehehehe....

 

[sharp]

here we go again?

 

[BMWs]

So do we sell our UDM and buy an Audi?

 

[sharp]

got A4d boh?

 

[Traveler]

320d EfficiencyDynamics

Since very quiet already... let me kacau a bit.. some news I saw today:

BMW 320d goes 1000 miles on a tank

The following an official press release from BMW UK. There are currently no plans for availability of the 320d in the North American market.

BMW’s cleanest and greenest 3 Series ever has just completed a record-breaking journey from the UK to Munich and back – on one tank of fuel.

Filled up at the Channel Tunnel, the new BMW 320d EfficientDynamics Saloon made it to Munich, then as far as Lille on the return leg – a staggering total of 1,013 miles on a single tank of fuel – before needing to be refuelled.

To put it in a UK geographic context, the distance achieved would have meant being able to drive from Land’s End to John O’Groats, and still having 200 miles range left in the tank.

Just as impressive was that the intrepid driver – motoring journalist and TV presenter Tom Ford – didn’t use efficient driving techniques such as coasting, or drive deliberately slowly for the trip, coverage of which appeared in yesterday’s Sunday Times newspaper.

Although switching the air con and radio off as a concession to fuel saving, Tom managed a reasonable motorway pace all the way there and back, proving that in the real world, the new BMW 320d EfficientDynamics Saloon delivers what its promises on paper – an official combined figure of 68.9mpg and CO2 emissions of only 109g/km.

On the way to Munich, Tom achieved highs of 75.9mpg, and didn’t dip below 65mpg for the entire trip. With an average speed of 59.3mph, the car achieved 68.9mpg overall.

He said: “I was prepared for this car to fail in the real world. I was wrong.Although I did try and be careful and drive in a feather-footed manner, I did cruise at a reasonable 65ish mph on the autoroutes and autobahns, so faster than the usual economy run pace.

“Think about it in the context of everyday motoring: comfortably more than 1,000 miles on one tank of diesel means just 12 fills a year for the average motorist – and even driven normally I still think you’re looking at 750-800 miles per fill. BMW’s EfficientDynamics: it does what it says on the tin.”

The BMW 320d EfficientDynamics Saloon develops 163hp between 3,500rpm to 4,200rpm and 360Nm of torque from 1,750rpm to 3,000rpm. This equates to a zero to 62mph time of 8.2 seconds and a top speed of 137mph ensuring that while it might be extremely efficient, it still offers sporting performance – a fact not lost on Tom. He said: “It’s difficult to tell the difference between this model and a standard 320d in terms of driving performance which is brilliant. It means that as well as the obvious financial advantages, this special 320d is a car for the environmentally conscious who still want a car that drives superbly.”

 

[docrayboy]

Since very quiet already... let me kacau a bit.. some news I saw today:

BMW 320d goes 1000 miles on a tank

Thanks traveler for the info. Fuel consumption is fantastic, it is a great car. I smile evrytime I fill up the MR96 full tank's worth of diesel. Why? Because it's another full tank of great economy and, just as important, great driving and performance ahead!

 

[Daredevil]

Don't argue. Beemer, Audi, Merc...semua bagus. I'll be introducing my very own hybrid model called AuBee very soon....stay tuned!

Jokes aside, the only turn off about diesel cars is the 'clanging' sound....until an Audi changed my perception. The new A5 3.2TDi. Ngam......can't tell it's a diesel when it went past.......

 

[Traveler]

Don't argue. Beemer, Audi, Merc...semua bagus. I'll be introducing my very own hybrid model called AuBee very soon....stay tuned!

Jokes aside, the only turn off about diesel cars is the 'clanging' sound....until an Audi changed my perception. The new A5 3.2TDi. Ngam......can't tell it's a diesel when it went past.......

Not all diesels have the clanging sound being noticeable though. I've driven a few diesels, most do have the clanging sound being noticeable, especially the Land Rovers but also the MB W203 C200. The E60 520d was barely noticeable, and wasn't noticeable in the X6 3.0 diesel. Without looking at the vehicle markings, I couldn't tell it was a diesel until I looked at the rev counter (lower rpm range) and the awesome torque from stepping on the accelerator. The sound wasn't even noticeable. Granted this may have been the great cabin insulation, but who cares... it was great

 

[melvyn]

Not all diesels have the clanging sound being noticeable though. I've driven a few diesels, most do have the clanging sound being noticeable, especially the Land Rovers but also the MB W203 C200. The E60 520d was barely noticeable, and wasn't noticeable in the X6 3.0 diesel. Without looking at the vehicle markings, I couldn't tell it was a diesel until I looked at the rev counter (lower rpm range) and the awesome torque from stepping on the accelerator. The sound wasn't even noticeable. Granted this may have been the great cabin insulation, but who cares... it was great

The diesel clanging noise is only more obvious in 4 cylinder engines, as the balance isn't as good.
For the inline 6 engines, the turbo spool noise is dominant over the engine noise as the its a lot smoother. Inline 6 are naturally balanced, hence the smoothness.
And the V8 engines sound very much like a patrol V8, with the alternating firing noise, but when at ideal, it still sounds very much like a diesel.

 

[andrewlim8]

The new A5 3.2TDi. Ngam......can't tell it's a diesel when it went past.......

what daredevil meant was when he was standing beside it but not sitting inside, so nothing to do with great cabin insulation.

 

[Morganl]

I have been telling you all already...get the 320d!! 320i is so yesterday now. But all I get is flamed by people who say I angkat the 320d too much! ha ha!

yea.. it's so yesterday that I'm thinking to get rid of it...

 

[Hemeraj]

Hi All,

Im planning to get a BMW 320D sports. Juz test drove it AB Glenmarie. Power was awesome. Luved it compared to the petrol version.

Juz a doubt, how reliable is the diesel engine? will there major problem in future which may burn a hole pocket. Is our diesel suitable for the diesel engine.?

Your expertise in this matter are higly appreciated, cheers

 

[Morganl]

i am comparing ur car with a truck...u didnt get it? :thefinger:

I'd driven both the E46 version of 320d & 325i and I don't think the engine sound of the diesel variant is that bad even on idle.... I used to leave the engine running and heating up b4 cruising the car in winter and the engine sound is just probably slightly louder from the outside, but not sure about the E90 version of the 320d in Msia... the engine sound is almost at the same noise level inside the cabin (without cranking up the volume of BMW Professional...)

the 320d is definately more fuel efficient as I manage to drive from London --> Liverpool --> Lake District --> Edinburgh in 1 full tank and spend couple of days in Scotland b4 refueling back to London... however, while on the M10/M3/M7 (highway), it's quite hard for the 320d to climb up to top speed... it take quite a while and quite a bit of effort before the car can reach above 120mph from around 110mph...

325i was pretty responsive and it's almost effortless to reach it's top speed of above 130mph++ (though it was a manual version)

the current E90 320i that I'm driving in KL is more or less about the same performance as the E46 318i that I had driven b4 in UK too... nothing to shout about, but it's still a BMW and we wouldn't want to call a BMW as 'Yesterday', won't we....

I'd never driven the E90 version of both 320d & 325i, so I can only make my comparison based on my experience in driving the E46 version of both these variant on long trip + the E90 320i..

320d:
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- In the UK, petrol stations have almost equal diesel pump versus petrol pump if not more, so the question of 'where to pump diesel' had never came across my mind b4... However, the 1st thing that pops up in my mind if I were to own a 320d in KL is where should I pump my diesel? can I still use credit card to pump diesel or I have to go to the counter every time?

- This might not be a problem for any of us here due to the limited availability of diesel pump suitable for saloon car, but 2 of my colleagues actually pumped petrol into their diesel engine car because they were swtiching diesel engine & petrol engine car too often... This might happen in the rare case where someone who 'borrowed' your car for a quick ride decided to refuel your car for you in return of the usage and accidentally pump in the wrong variant... the cost of 'fixing' the problem was bout 600 pound back then...

- The E46 320d is definately more responsive than the E46 318i or even the 320i E90 that I'm driving now, but it doesn't feel that much superior than the E46 325i especially when picking up & overtaking.... however, I was driving a manual E46 325i back then, so that could be a differentiator as well...

- most of the time when I'm visit the nearest petrol kiosk, it was to refill the 325i... so yea.. 320d is definately more fuel efficient... I know this because I always keep my 325i fuel card on the frequent used compartment of my wallet while the 320d fuel card behind my credit card...

325i:
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- top speed rulez on a long stretch of highway with 3-5 lanes.... driven from London to Ipswitch, London to Bath --> Cambridge --> Oxford.... this baby rulez whenever we are out of London... but inside London with like 10-15 speed camera in less than 10 Km of road, the 320d was slightly better to manage the traffic...

- our company didn't give us the 325i with i-drive etc, so can only compare the engine performance between these 2 variants... I have no doubt that 325i would have win 320d hands down if our KL highway is as smooth & as wide as M10/M1/M3... M25 could be slightly trickly though as it's always full of traffic & full of speed camera... however, even on local trunk road of A-coded road, 325i would still win 320d as the highway is usually 'long' enough for both cars to reach top-speed most of the time... and 325i can go from 110mph to 130mph++ almost effortless....

just to share on my experience dealing with both 320d (E46) & 325i (E46)