Attention Oil Burners: Fuel Brand

[JediM]

There's been some lively discussion recently on our beloved oil-burning rides and I thought a quick survey and informal opinion poll might be in order, covering the fuel we are feeding our metal-steeds with.My company has given out Shell Cards to a few of us, so I'm mostly filling up at Shell in TTDI. I find consumption to be pretty good and performance as well. Currently I'm consistently getting 7.1L to 7.6L/100km depending on our varied urban conditions, and around 6.0L to 6.5L/100km when going long distance.Petronas seems to give slightly better mileage with a bit more oomph.Caltex is pretty quiet, but seems to lack oomph and mileage is so-so on the high side.What have been your experiences?

 

[paultantk]

I use Petronas, BHPetrol and Caltex.

Shell Diesel? Errr...

The Focus TDCI seems to like it tho!

http://paultan.org/2011/05/02/ford-focus-tdci-1365-5-km-done-on-one-tank-of-diesel/

 

[JediM]

Paul, I've only heard good things about Petronas diesel, and I've been using Shell diesel in my last vehicle as well without any issues. Would you care to provide some opinions on the various diesels you've encountered?

 

[Maniac]

i normally go to the shell near my place plainly out of convenience, they also have the right sized diesel nozzles at all pumps. tried petronas a few times, but didn't really feel a difference. no issues so far, but i'm planning to swap to caltex for a few months to see if techron makes any difference. got my service done recently after a 10k kms interval, because the engine got hoarse after 8000kms from the prior oil change. now running smooth like a baby's bum again. will plan on getting an oil swap at the next 8000kms based on this experience.
one thing i'm gonna try also is putting in fuel conditioner every 3000-4000kms to keep the rails clean. anyone have any experience to share?

 

[3er]

Same with Maniac above. I'm using Shell out of convenience also and there are no issues with nozzle size. Didnt feel any difference with Petronas. Not planning on any fuel conditioners though.

 

[paultantk]

the only time i ALMOST pumped Shell into my 520d was one midnight where i was really low on fuel and when i got to a Shell in a neighbourhoodish area (Jalan 17/22 PJ i think) near my office in Jaya One, the nozzle size did not fit. i slowly made my way to the Petronas on the Sprint highway and refuelled there.

 

[paultantk]

Paul, I've only heard good things about Petronas diesel, and I've been using Shell diesel in my last vehicle as well without any issues. Would you care to provide some opinions on the various diesels you've encountered?

honestly i have no idea how Shell runs on my 520d. but my previous E270 CDI, shell gave me less mileage (about 70km less if i recall correctly), so out of habit i don't pump it. for petronas, bhpetrol and caltex... to be honest they all feel exactly the same in my 520d.

shell gave some good performance here though: http://paultan.org/2011/05/02/ford-focus-tdci-1365-5-km-done-on-one-tank-of-diesel/

 

[gameover]

When I use Shell or BHP I can feel extra vibrations on the steering wheel within say 50-100km of using. It's enough to give slight numbness in my fingers. I don't feel any vibration when using Petronas or Caltex so I've stuck with them ever since. I can't really tell if there's much difference in range or power personally.

I like Caltex because of what I read below, no need to add additional additives for me

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e53-forum/43886-bmw-fuel-system-cleaner-techron.html

 

[Hemeraj]

There's been some lively discussion recently on our beloved oil-burning rides and I thought a quick survey and informal opinion poll might be in order, covering the fuel we are feeding our metal-steeds with.

My company has given out Shell Cards to a few of us, so I'm mostly filling up at Shell in TTDI. I find consumption to be pretty good and performance as well. Currently I'm consistently getting 7.1L to 7.6L/100km depending on our varied urban conditions, and around 6.0L to 6.5L/100km when going long distance.

Petronas seems to give slightly better mileage with a bit more oomph.

Caltex is pretty quiet, but seems to lack oomph and mileage is so-so on the high side.

What have been your experiences?

I am getting about 9.1L/100km. This is quite heavy for a diesel car rite??. Mostly urban driving. Fuel tank goes 700-750km. Anyone with same stats?? just wondering or there is something wrong with my car.....:damnmate:

 

[Maniac]

I am getting about 9.1L/100km. This is quite heavy for a diesel car rite??. Mostly urban driving. Fuel tank goes 700-750km. Anyone with same stats?? just wondering or there is something wrong with my car.....:damnmate:

9.1 is very high, bro - that's a petrol engine's consumption! i think you'll find that the average amongst the most of us is around 7l/100km.
but if you're getting 750kms per 60litre tank, that works out to be 8l/100kms, not too bad though still on the high side.

 

[paultantk]

I'm doing low 7s per 100km as well, and dips below that if there's more highway driving. 9 liters seems high - is yours 320d or 520d?

 

[DKNY]

I am getting about 9.1L/100km. This is quite heavy for a diesel car rite??. Mostly urban driving. Fuel tank goes 700-750km. Anyone with same stats?? just wondering or there is something wrong with my car.....:damnmate:

I too am getting that. Most of the time even 10.1 comes about. but maybe that's my driving. Sent it for diagnostic but same old thingy

 

[mikeyC]

I'm getting 8.3L/100km, doing 50-50 city and highway. Sent for diagnostic and re-program still doing the same fc. I think it just down to my 'throttle happy' driving style and where I live too; on top of hill...

 

[dzuljazz2001]

I'm getting 8.3L/100km, doing 50-50 city and highway. Sent for diagnostic and re-program still doing the same fc. I think it just down to my 'throttle happy' driving style and where I live too; on top of hill...

I am getting abt 10.5 - 11 /100km and mainly becoz of my heavy footing ... have tried all brand but hv been sticking with BhP coz it gives lesser soot emission :4: ... :top: ...

 

[gameover]

OK I guess I don't feel bad with my 7.8l/100km for mostly city driving with a light foot on my 320d.

I've never really compared onboard computer with the actual at the pump calculations. How accurate is the OBC?

 

[Alex5522]

OK I guess I don't feel bad with my 7.8l/100km for mostly city driving with a light foot on my 320d.

I've never really compared onboard computer with the actual at the pump calculations. How accurate is the OBC?

Wow..+-0.15cents/km on mostly city drive damn cheap man 320d..if compare to my E46 320i at lease 0.23-0.25 cents/km for mostly city drive.
For long terms it should save a lot man. What is the 2nd hand car price for 320i nowadays ya hmm.... ?

 

[dzuljazz2001]

OK I guess I don't feel bad with my 7.8l/100km for mostly city driving with a light foot on my 320d.

I've never really compared onboard computer with the actual at the pump calculations. How accurate is the OBC?

:4: ... its just an average bro and when talking abt accuracy ... our OBC can never be accurate as the calculation is done to give you the average only, and thts it :4:
I had noticed tht after each filling, the average given (at least from my obc) never gives the same reading, be it urban, rural or highway ... :stupid: ...

 

[gameover]

:4: ... its just an average bro and when talking abt accuracy ... our OBC can never be accurate as the calculation is done to give you the average only, and thts it :4:
I had noticed tht after each filling, the average given (at least from my obc) never gives the same reading, be it urban, rural or highway ... :stupid: ...

What I'd like to do is reset the OBC and trip meter every time I fill up, and then compare the manual calculations vs. the OBC at the next fill up. This would give the average as manually vs. the OBC. My old car had an OBC that was a bit too optimistic.

 

[Hemeraj]

I'm doing low 7s per 100km as well, and dips below that if there's more highway driving. 9 liters seems high - is yours 320d or 520d?

mine is 320D performance edition. 8 months old.....any ideas on how to reduce it

 

[JediM]

Hemeraj... driving style is very important. A good take off from a standing start and then throttling back so the car gears up and settles into a cruise is a nice way to get things off to a smooth start. And maintaining a constant speed and resisting the urge to 'tekan' every time on the highway is also nice. Ideal cruising speed in urban roads is 60-80kms, while keeping an eye on the econo-meter, and on the highway 120 is pretty good. Steady, consistent pressure on the throttle is also worth practising.