Moving out of AB's service to own service, good idea?

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Hi guys!Well out F10 2012 (CKD) has served us really well. Besides a faded AC button, its still fantabulous. I now know why once you buy a BMW, you cannot buy anything else.However, I don't think I can say the same for the aftersales in AB Glenmarie (ABGM)1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:2. The service level at AB GM is not what I expected from the brand though. From the sales experience (I was told the M Sport F10 is available in Havana, booked and paid, only to be told it was not available at all, car was sitting in the dealer for a month, cause they were too busy with Raya, when I told I wanted it preferably before Raya, on delivery day, document not there, paperwork was not done right), plus the service at the same place is really meh la. I mean like the same exact engine oil (Helix Ultra - think it was 5W40) which is sold by Shell and other brands outside ABGM, at about 2/3 of the price (I bought the same oil, same quantity for another car outside the day before), plus the so called BSRI which I think is not really explained well to the customer. It seems that BSRI only is covered if you follow the computer and change the oil when the service comes on the car. I did mine at 10000km, as many people I know who have BMWs (and also the sales person) said its best to do the oil change at every 10k cause of the climate (and this applies to the four ring brand too), to keep the engine at tiptop condition. At this oil change, I was informed that the 10000km is not covered under BSRI, and only the 20, 40 and 60k are covered. They could have at least told me at the start. Less confusion. In comparison to another non-German (but Conti brand of the same price range-shall not name here), they provided better service, under warranty claims too, they came and took the car from me, and gave me a loaner, and even returned it back too. Not once but 2 times. Plus, they really went the extra mile, including getting the parts flown in on a Sunday to make sure they can fix it ASAP. It is just that, after this experience, I am not really sure if it is worth sending back to them after the 2 year warranty finishes. That is why I am now contemplating, at the end of the second year, should I just send it out to my regular mechanic who used to do my Japanese and Koreans last time? I do know that these Contis have a lot of electrics, and I don't want to screw it up. And I also realised every time I go to my dealer, they do check my key with the PC and print out a report which shows everything i do with the car. If this was a Japanese, I won't mind but this is a BMW, worried to send out too, but it is not like AB is any better at solving problems too.Anyone has started sending their F10s out of the dealer network? Any interesting things? Also, how did you guys manage to reset the service info?I still am in love with this german though. Some kind of 'magic' or poison in it, once you taste it, you cannot leave it.Thanks guys and happy driving with your UDMs. Cause it is really THE UDM.
 
sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
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If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.

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sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
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If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.
 
Bro, if you want I can offer to help you check out your iDrive Internet connection. Come over to Putra heights Subang jaya. Just buy me a cup of Teh Tarik will do.
 
I only bought my e90 from them and never look back. All my BSRI and warranty claim are handled by Ingress.
 
astroboy;847151 said:
I only bought my e90 from them and never look back. All my BSRI and warranty claim are handled by Ingress.

Hi Astroboy,

I also bought my car from AB and I sent my car to Ingress (Damansara) once for service. I was told that Ingress can only service my car but they cannot handle the warranty claim. This needs to go back to AB. Can you clarify your statement?
 
The dealers only make a small margin over the selling price.. Warranty is granted by BMW Malaysia, not the dealer. All warranty claims must submit to BMW Malaysia to claim for parts and labor. The dealer only untung the labor. That used to be the case.. Any dealer can submit the claim. Unless rules has changed la.

The dealer can claim grey import BMW warranty for you too via BMW Malaysia and resubmit the claim to oversea BMW dealer. Prior agreement for the arrangement need to pre established.
 
i dont think the rules has change. i also buy my e90 from AB Glenmarie and 2 months ago my drive sensor has been faulty and the nearest reseller to me is the new Ingress in Puchong Bandar Puteri. They did the claim for me without any issue
 
zaak;847134 said:
sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
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If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.

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sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
/QUOTE]

If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.



Yup. Did that. Didn't work. Taking it at the end of the year and probably gonna speak to someone higher there and see what is all the drama about.

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zaak;847134 said:
sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
/QUOTE]

If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.

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sudonano;845638 said:
1. Since I took the car last year till today, my iDrive Internet does not work. When I went for my first oil change, I was told that they have to reinstall my iDrive software. So I made a second appointment and met the SAME service advisor, who then brought in the mechanic to take a look at the car. The service advisor said I need to update the BMW iDrive system, via iPhone, so I then plugged in the iPhone and then he told me, I need to get the BMW app (the red icon one) from the App Store. So I got it, then I tried to connect but nothing. Then he tells me that iPhone 5 is not supported, but I told him even on my stone age 3GS (which is older than even the F10 model), it still does not work. He said, no it is the phone that is not supported. So okay. When the mechanic took the car for a drive, he did tell that the CKD models have no internet, and showed me that I should have ConnectedDrive on the home, and not BMW Connected. I then went to cross check with the sales brochure which says internet included. So now I have 3 versions of the story, and I don't know which is right!

I decided to follow the steps as per detailed in the forum, plugin to the center console, then update services, and try and launch, but all I get is a no connectivity error. Just gave up on it, rather spend time on the road than fiddling with the internet anyway :cool:
/QUOTE]

If I understand your internet problem correctly, you were having difficulty using iDrive internet. You have to use the data connection in your smartphone. Try the following (on the assumption that your iPhone has been paired with your car using Bluetooth): On your iPhone, go to Settings>Bluetooth>Ok. Thereafter go to Settings>Personal Hotspot>On. You should then be able to use the iDrive’s internet while the car is stationery.



Yup. Did that. Didn't work. Taking it at the end of the year and probably gonna speak to someone higher there and see what is all the drama about.

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splee;847139 said:
Bro, if you want I can offer to help you check out your iDrive Internet connection. Come over to Putra heights Subang jaya. Just buy me a cup of Teh Tarik will do.

Haha! Thats nice! Just let me try my luck with the dealer one more time :D

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splee;847139 said:
Bro, if you want I can offer to help you check out your iDrive Internet connection. Come over to Putra heights Subang jaya. Just buy me a cup of Teh Tarik will do.

Haha! Thats nice! Just let me try my luck with the dealer one more time :D
 
magpie;847976 said:
i dont think the rules has change. i also buy my e90 from AB Glenmarie and 2 months ago my drive sensor has been faulty and the nearest reseller to me is the new Ingress in Puchong Bandar Puteri. They did the claim for me without any issue

Nope. That one I know can la. Friend had a 528i M from Quill or Auto Bavaria I think. All warranty done by Ingress, no trouble... Including small flood issue too...

But I mean, say if I take it out to private mechanic ie the ones at the Shell station (example), how? Anyone tried it? I did hear Ultra Tune is pretty OK also... I would only do this when the 2 year warranty ends la. Till then will stay within the network...

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magpie;847976 said:
i dont think the rules has change. i also buy my e90 from AB Glenmarie and 2 months ago my drive sensor has been faulty and the nearest reseller to me is the new Ingress in Puchong Bandar Puteri. They did the claim for me without any issue

Nope. That one I know can la. Friend had a 528i M from Quill or Auto Bavaria I think. All warranty done by Ingress, no trouble... Including small flood issue too...

But I mean, say if I take it out to private mechanic ie the ones at the Shell station (example), how? Anyone tried it? I did hear Ultra Tune is pretty OK also... I would only do this when the 2 year warranty ends la. Till then will stay within the network...
 
sudonano;848535 said:
Nope. That one I know can la. Friend had a 528i M from Quill or Auto Bavaria I think. All warranty done by Ingress, no trouble... Including small flood issue too...

But I mean, say if I take it out to private mechanic ie the ones at the Shell station (example), how? Anyone tried it? I did hear Ultra Tune is pretty OK also... I would only do this when the 2 year warranty ends la. Till then will stay within the network...

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I have ask this previously on E90 section. If i am still under BSRI can i do my service at any of shop outside because BSRI only perform free service every 20k km but i prefer doing a 10k km service interval. So usually the 10k km i will have to fork out myself and the service charges at BMW are on the high side. Anyway the answer from the post is no and it will void the BSRI. I have yet to confirm with BMW yet.

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sudonano;848535 said:
Nope. That one I know can la. Friend had a 528i M from Quill or Auto Bavaria I think. All warranty done by Ingress, no trouble... Including small flood issue too...

But I mean, say if I take it out to private mechanic ie the ones at the Shell station (example), how? Anyone tried it? I did hear Ultra Tune is pretty OK also... I would only do this when the 2 year warranty ends la. Till then will stay within the network...

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I have ask this previously on E90 section. If i am still under BSRI can i do my service at any of shop outside because BSRI only perform free service every 20k km but i prefer doing a 10k km service interval. So usually the 10k km i will have to fork out myself and the service charges at BMW are on the high side. Anyway the answer from the post is no and it will void the BSRI. I have yet to confirm with BMW yet.
 
Go get the ori filter from SC parts counter and change the oil else where lor. They won't know la.

Ori oil filter sold outside is visually different, so they can tell if you not using their oil filter.. that is if the SC wanted to be nasty over certain engine failure warranty claims la.

I have my own technique.. which is pretty technical and troublesome, not nice to share here.
 
magpie said:
i dont think the rules has change. i also buy my e90 from AB Glenmarie and 2 months ago my drive sensor has been faulty and the nearest reseller to me is the new Ingress in Puchong Bandar Puteri. They did the claim for me without any issue
BMW Msia should extend warranty period to 4 years like Mercedes.
 
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