Lube n Filter Change

[maanly]

After 6 month my tripmeter shows 21,128.00 readings. I did serviced the UDM at Sapura on the 10k mark for free. Its a 325i 2008 model. Recently after returning back from a trip North I feel that there is a slight decrease in performance of my car. It becomes laggy and the response is late. Furthermore at times the engines becomes jerky. So I say to myself how did the engineers in BMW programmed the computer or OBC and say that servicing is only at 25k mark. Mine showed another 9000km to go. I cant wait that long. So I decided to change the oil n filter to a mechanic friend away from the authorised workshop since I have to pay everything myself. Here are the details: 1. Engine oil Shell Helix Ultra Fully Syntetic 5W-40 RM190.00 X 2 cans=RM380.00 2. Original oil filter odered from KL sent by bus to Seremban mechanic RM55.00 3. Upah or Labour charge RM25.00Total bill: RM460.00The result is simply amazing. The response is superb and there is no more jerking. I wonder if I would have wait until the OBC showed that I need to send the car to servicing would that be too late and would it damage my car? Anyhow I just cant take that risk. I would like other brothers to share their experience here just for the sake of knowledge. I may miss out on the things I don't know.Cheers,Maanly.

 

[paulpaul2]

u r based on seremban? maybe we can have a small TT overhere

paul

 

[maanly]

dear paul,
when i sent my car for lube change I met cooldude..He's also from Seremban...maybe we can invite him too.

 

[paulpaul2]

sure no pro, pm sent to u my contact number .

 

[glock_8]

Sorry to dig out this old thread...

I just realised that my next lube oil service is due another 23k km or by sept 2010!!! right now the mileage is around 2k km. Is the computer correct? sept 2010 is like 2 years from now!!!

Maanly, Ur car is 2008 and still eligible for 10k km service...when i visited Sapura Auto couple of weeks ago, the SA told me that my next lube oil change is at 25k km and not at 10k km....he said this directive is implemented just recently....

I found this unacceptable since the engine is the same either 2008 or 2007 model but method of service is diff!!!

Can someone shed some light to this issue...thanx in advance

 

[Schwepps]

glock, don't take the Sapura SA's word for it. BMW dealer SAs are notorious for giving crap info. Yours is a 325i Sports, so the 1st BSRI should be at 10k. Call the service depts of all 3 dealers and check with them. If they all also say the directive was implemented recently, call BMWM and demand to know what the hell is going on.

In my case, although AB forgot to set the OBC to 10k when they handed me the car (so it showed the default 25k) I took it to IA at 10k and they honoured the BSRI.

BTW, you are at 2k and your run-in is over. I'd strongly recommend that you change the oil and filter now at your own cost...it should be about RM600. In an earlier thread, some wacky guy :wink: said that the factory first fill may be a special foaming run-in oil and I pooh-poohed it as rubbish. But in my subsequent research into oils, I found out that some manufacturers indeed fill a mineral oil as first fill in order to get the engine parts to bed-in faster (through higher friction) You don't want to run around too long with that oil if BMW indeed practises it. Certainly not to 25k!

Your run-in is over dude! FLOOR it and tell us how it feels.

 

[glock_8]

Just wrote a complaint to BMW Malaysia asking for clarification on this issue. I will give Sapura and Ingress a call tomorrow morning to reconfirm this.

I think i share the same fate as urs where the tech didn;t set the first service but mine is worst since they don;t even set the correct date and time to the OBC, when i get the car, i had to set the correct time by myself and i suspect the service date is also not set.

I'll be doing the oil change by saturday and will get the engine worked out once the new lube in...hehehhee

 

[thule]

actually I don't believe in 25000 km service interval for engine oil... I'd sent my car (1st time) to be serviced last 2 weeks, and the mech told me that he would recommend to change engine oil at 15000km max... preferably 10000km.
He even showed me a picture of E46's engine block that had been dismantled to be serviced... the sight of carbon deposits inside really scared the s**t out of me... according to him, the guy followed AB's advice and kept on driving until 25000km. After a few times... the whole engine behaved just like maanly's... up to a point, couldn't be started at all. AB charged more than 20++k... he did it for RM17k!!!
My advice?? Change engine oil when your odometer strikes 10000km or 12000km the max... that is, not an expert's opinion... just my personal one.

 

[glock_8]

Just received a call from Sapura auto, they admit that they didn't set the program on my car prior to delivery and request me to send the car back for reprogram which will take the whole day.

They also confirmed that for 325sport, the first service will be 10k km and that thier service advisor had mistakenly said 25kkm

Has anyone done this reprogram thing before? and would it really take whole day to do?

 

[MSport]

Just received a call from Sapura auto, they admit that they didn't set the program on my car prior to delivery and request me to send the car back for reprogram which will take the whole day.

They also confirmed that for 325sport, the first service will be 10k km and that thier service advisor had mistakenly said 25kkm

Has anyone done this reprogram thing before? and would it really take whole day to do?

I am surprise that till today, the programming was not done before the car is delivered to customer. I also serviced with Sapura and I had to leave my car with them for 2 days (they said programming was 1 whole day and reprogramming with BMW Malaysia is another half day).

 

[racheltoh]

Thank God my SA is honest. I send my car at 12k km (busy n couldnt take time). After the first service, its was then program to the next 25k.. meaning at 35k km (which is approx 09/2009 at the odm) next service. however my car very underpower....eerrr grrh now at 25k mileage. so ive decided to bring back at 30k. during this period 12k-25k, i hv manually tambah torco black oil 2.5L

 

[MSport]

In my case, although AB forgot to set the OBC to 10k when they handed me the car (so it showed the default 25k) I took it to IA at 10k and they honoured the BSRI.

Just a query, if you change oil at 10k km at your own cost, should the SC reset the OBC mileage? Cos I noticed Ingress didn't change the OBC mileage after I changed the oil.

Anyone?

 

[racheltoh]

Oh btw, my car didnt "blink blink" at 10k ..to remind me to send for service. It was SA whom gave me sms reminders. and when i brought back to IA, they were surprise that there was no reminder. then found out programming problem and they special order a software from germany. & the software took 1 MONTH to arrived...

of course i made my "usual remarks" n i got courtesy car while my car was in the hospital.....;p

 

[astroboy]

Just returned my E90 to SC again this morning for warranty repair.. Maybe can get back the car tomorrow (Sat) if lucky.. or else I'll be one leg short by Monday..

As for the OBC reset after oil change, its simple mathematics ma... our OBC is a just a mileage counter which "intelligently" count down the mileage to next service taking into consideration of the driving habit, acceleration and deceleration pattern of the car to determine the aggressiveness of the driver. If aggressive, then count down faster loo..

SC can set the require mileage till next service, say 10k, 25k or even 35k. Then the OBC will take over to factor in the above algorithm for the count down, so you will end up plus or minus depending on the driving habit.

For intermediate oil top up or oil change, we should not disturb the OBC and should let the existing countdown to continue... unless you want to extend that countdown by another 5k to 10k which I don't think is advisable.

For example, my OBC say to do oil change at 30k km.. I will do intermediate oil change at 5k, 13k and 21k and finally the BSRI 30k km, then only OBC should be reset.

Like wise, you can demand SC to set the OBC to count down for 8k km, if that's what u prefer rather than the "standard" +/-25k km but if the car is under BSRI, they won't be that stupid la.

 

[MSport]

of course i made my "usual remarks" n i got courtesy car while my car was in the hospital.....;p

This is a MUST in order to get courtesy car.:top:

 

[glock_8]

I am surprise that till today, the programming was not done before the car is delivered to customer. I also serviced with Sapura and I had to leave my car with them for 2 days (they said programming was 1 whole day and reprogramming with BMW Malaysia is another half day).

i didn't quite get it...so your car having the same problem as mine and they had to program it the whole day...and another half day for reprograming by bmw m'sia...

reprogramming by bmw m'sia will be done at another place? or still at sapura? and will there be any different after they do that? any hiccup or anything that i shud look up to before taking back my car?

the SA told me they need only 1 day...if its really 2 days then i need to get a spare car..

 

[Schwepps]

Guys, here are my 2 cents on all the comments above:

- Technical info from Sales Advisers are usually crap.
- BSRI is paid for by BMWM regardless whether you do it at AB, IA or SA. BMWM sets the policy regarding 10k, 25k intervals.
- The initial interval is supposed to be set during PDI by the dealer, but they do miss occasionally.
- The instrument panel read-out is only an indication to you. Proof for BSRI claim by the dealer is taken from your key fob, so when you take it in for service, take the latest key fob you've used or the readout will be out-of-date.
- AB told me you can't reset the service indicator once you've exceeded 500km from the last reset - maybe true, maybe not. Glock, suggest that instead of wasting time 'reprogramming', you just get the service dept of one if the dealers, preferably IA, to commit to service your car at 10k. If there's no change to BMWM policy, the readout from your key-fob will suffice for their claim.
- Resetting the service indicator taking 1-2 days is BS to me. What wonderful things are they going to do to your OBC? AB told me it would take only a few minutes, but mine couldn't be done because I'd exceeded the 500km.
- They will only reset the service indicator if a BSRI service is done, ie official, not if you pay for it yourself.
- Rachel, although it's not all that harmful, try not to top up with a different oil from what's already in your engine. I assume you topped-up with Torco SR-1? That's a semi-synthethic you're mixing with your fully-synthetic. Not so good, but not as bad as using SR-5, which is a racing oil and will damage your catalytic converter.

Hope I've helped some of you.

 

[racheltoh]

Schweppes:
Yes I am using Torco SR-1. The label said BMW Long Life. Also recommended by some ppl here.
I believe IA is using Petronas oil and it does not come loose. So if I need to top up with the same oil, means I have to send back to IA for a 1 min pour-job ;p heehhehe

 

[astroboy]

So Schweeps, this is semi-synthetic?
What ever it is, the LL-04 on the label did convinced me.. I doubt there's any other lub that comes with this grade in retail pack.. no choice..

 

[glock_8]

Oh btw, my car didnt "blink blink" at 10k ..to remind me to send for service. It was SA whom gave me sms reminders. and when i brought back to IA, they were surprise that there was no reminder. then found out programming problem and they special order a software from germany. & the software took 1 MONTH to arrived...

of course i made my "usual remarks" n i got courtesy car while my car was in the hospital.....;p

How many days you left the car at their garage?