Feedback on Beisan Vanos seals replacement

[Herbert]

Is there a special tool required to adjust the camshafts?

Yes, you need a special tool. Refer to pictures above.

 

[Herbert]

yup, courtesy from optimum with some other works as well.

Yes, indeed it was a courtesy price from Optimum. I also replaced 2 x water hoses (beneath inlet manifold), gear box mountings and re-aligned camshalf.

 

[Herbert]

Herbert,

Still the seals for my double vanos? Wanna keep 1st...before mine breaks down..

Your original seals will not break down, so to speak. It only get harden and henceforth, timing of camshalf will be completely out.

 

[elixir]

Yes, bro bmw7833 is correct. I did mine (replaced with Beisan seals) this morning and got a shock of my life. My inlet camshaft is out by almost one full height of the alu bar!!! No wonder my consumption was high at 11.6L/100km (city) and 10.6L/100km (outstation). After replacement of seals, took a test drive and immediately felt improvement and smooth for low end torque. I also met another member at the workshop who had his seals replaced last week for his e39 528i single vanos. He mentioned same improvement for low end torque plus he is now getting 9.2L/100km city driving.

my fuel consumption has worsen since the vanos seal replacement.
i'm addicted to slamming the accelerator pedal now....

 

[sewell]

We did ours at Optimum at Kayu Ara for RM250.00

Hi herbert,

can you provide Optimum at Kayu Ara the PIC name, tel numberand address. i want to change my oil seperator valve. did Optimum can do that?

 

[bmw7833]

Herbert,

Still the seals for my double vanos? Wanna keep 1st...before mine breaks down..

The second batch group buy is started.

yes there is. Advisable no to DIY if not familiar. It like doing a top overhaul

yup, courtesy from optimum with some other works as well.

So time to change the gasket as well?

 

[feisaldzul]

thanks to herbert for organizing the group buy.

big difference after replacing the seals.

worthwhile effort.

 

[bmw7833]

Ahhhh~my body is itchy now.

 

[bikerz]

how to know it's due to change? coz my car now doesnt have any prob... (but it's 10 years old..)

 

[nando]

where at kl i can do this? how much many i have to spend? thinking of change it too..

 

[elixir]

how to know it's due to change? coz my car now doesnt have any prob... (but it's 10 years old..)

after you have changed, then only you'll notice that your car had problem...:top:

the original seal is made of Buna-N rubber, which is rated at 95deg. C
our engine temparature already exceed 95.
so, the seal will harden and the vanos will not function accurately adjusting the inlet/outlet valve timing . be it at idling or at high rpm
you may not feel anything wrong with your car now probably you are too use to it.

 

[bimmerholic]

Look at the top, the alu bar are not align properly.

Shite that's a hell lot of difference which i was blind to notice at first! Thanks man.

 

[Herbert]

The second batch group buy is started.





So time to change the gasket as well?

No need to change the rubber gasket. Just apply rubber silicone will do.

 

[Herbert]

how to know it's due to change? coz my car now doesnt have any prob... (but it's 10 years old..)

From Beisan's web site, it says that the original BMW vanos seals is only good for about 25K to 30K km. Even with vanos seals failure, you can still drive around but you won't be getting the performance of a beemer. I have talked to a few experienced BMW mechanics and they too were unaware of vanos seals failure and its reprecussions for they depend too much on the diagnostic equipment.

 

[bmw7833]

No need to change the rubber gasket. Just apply rubber silicone will do.

I meant the engine gasket, bro.

 

[elixir]

if the gasket is still in good condition, it can be re-use.

 

[bimmerholic]

No need to change the engine gasket right since you're not removing the head only top valve cover removed...

 

[elixir]

No need to change the engine gasket right since you're not removing the head only top valve cover removed...

you are absolutely right.

 

[bikerz]

here's feedback from youtube

[video=youtube;8uX6vguVxuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uX6vguVxuw[/video]

and here the procedure

[video=youtube;UvtEU4q3rU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvtEU4q3rU4&feature=related[/video]

but, my car doesnt have prob like in the video, does it mean my vanos is ok?

 

[IsaacVky]