E46 Coupe Shocks + Springs

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Hi all,I am wondering if it's okay to fit Eibach Pro Kit to the E46 Coupe? Stock coupes are already lowered and I am running on 17" low radials. While the handling is superb the ride is relatively bumpy. I am wondering whether the ride quality can be improved without sacrificing handling if I install the eibach pro kit or is it recommended to go for the popular eibach spring/bilstein shock combo. My aim is to improve the ride (darn KL potholes) while maintaining/improving the road handling. My other concern is whether the installation of the eibach pro kit would lower the car too much rendering it impossible to traverse speed bumps without scraping the bottom. Is there any one with a E46 coupe running on the either Eibach Pro Kit with stock absorbers or Eibach/Bilstein combo? Please share your experience. Thanks!I know this topic has already been widely discussed i.e. 328i Shocks + Springshowever, I haven't seen any discussions on this for the E46 coupe yet.Many thanks in advance.Cheers!
 
Yo Kenny,

I am using the stock suspension on my Ci now.. quite happy with the comfort levels.I don't find it harsh at all.... BUT another man's meat is another man's poison.

My only upgrade would be to change my Sway bars to something better as I am not happy with the body roll during hard cornering.
I am on 17inch Mtech 68's, on Goodyear F1 GS-D3 with Nitrogen at 2.2 front and 2.4 rear.
The pressures you are running on may affect the harshness of your ride as well..

At this point I am unwilling to lower it further or put in sports shocks for fear of sacrificing the comfort levels.
So, if you are already unhappy with the ride comfort on a stock setup, changing any of those components will be detrimental to that, for sure.......


Generally, IMHO.... comfort cannot be obtained without sacrificing better handling and vice versa........
The objective is to determine what levels of either characteristic you are willing to give up for the other???

Please give us a detailed review once you have installed the desired option. I would be most interested to hear the results!
 
Hi scin,

Thanks for your input.

My car's ride isn't very harsh per say but I do 'feel' the surface of the road more than I would on a e46 sedan. I am also not too keen on lowering the car further but I was told that the eibach pro lowers the car slightly only. People have been saying that the eibach/bilstein kits offers better handling without sacrificing comfort from the 'magic' of progressive springs (if it's possible to attain this that is :p )

That's why I am asking around to see if anyone here has used the combination on a coupe. It'll be great to have an actual review in order for me to make an educated decision on whether to spend the money on the shocks and springs.

Cheers!
 
I too, would like to know which setup offers the performance without sacrificing the bumps!

Let me know when you have found the "Holy Grail" of setups!

Are the Eibachs not progressive?

In all probability, Eibach/Bilstein combo will have an affect on bumpiness.... the question is how much??? and can you live with it????

For now, I'll just stick to the Sway bars.

Good Luck!
 
extracted from UUC website.......If their claims are to be believed...... this could be a solution~!

UUC Motorwerks Tuned Spring Sets
With the plethora of aftermarket spring choices on the marketplace, why in the world would we have our own spring sets made?

Because we wanted aftermarket springs to do what we wanted them to do.

After being frustrated with the choices available, we discovered that there was a method for lowering the car, allowing for slightly better handling, without the need for changing out the OEM shocks. Some manufactures already offer "sport packages" from the factory where they simply install different springs (slightly stiffer and lower) and different sway bars (typically larger, to produce less body roll). We looked to produce a set of springs for the cars that do not have this option, tweaking the car just that much more.

The current problem that exists is complete incompatibly between what current spring manufactures determine what "sport springs" should be with their respective rates. Additionally, the current shock manufactures are no better marketing "sport shocks" for springs that do not exist. If they only would talk and work together, would we have a happy medium with any shock/spring combination NOT from the factory. Typically, you have to have shock custom-valved for specific springs, for whatever you're looking to achieve. Yes, this is normally a pricey option (a good set of coilovers can start at $2000 and up).

The UUC Tuned Spring Set
is TUV-approved and
ISO 9002 certified.
Our goal was to produce a set of performance springs without the common issues found with current offerings. Our goals were:

Lower the car just substantially, reducing the unsightly fender gap.
Maintain most of the factory suspension travel (travel is good for everyday driving such as potholes and driveways)
Maintain most of the factory alignment settings (lowering the car too much does funny things to the alignment)
Most importantly, allow them to work very well with factory shocks.
If you're planning on racing or your car goes to the track all the time, you may want to invest in the custom coil-over systems out there. Save your money and do NOT buy these springs.

For those that use their cars for everyday driving, we offer the UUC Motorwerks Tuned Spring Set.

But not all springs are the same. When choosing a spring set, you need to ask a few very important questions:

Do they work with your original struts or do other struts need to be purchased?
How will ride quality be affected?
Are the springs designed for real street use or strictly "race only"?
How good are the materials used to make the springs?

Let's answer these questions and see how the UUC Tuned Spring Set measures up:

The UUC Tuned Spring set is designed to work with your stock struts. This saves you a bunch of money on "special" struts which can cost up to $700 all by themselves.
Ride quality with the UUC Tuned Spring Set remains very comfortable, not harsh at all. This is due to the progressive rate design that is softer in the normal range of compression in street driving, yet firms up more and more as it is compressed further during "sporty" driving.
UUC springs are designed for the street, but are track-capable. Other "race springs" may be too harsh for street use and too short for other suspension components, which could compromise the lifespan of those parts. UUC springs work perfectly with all other stock parts.

Our spring sets start as the highest grade chrome silicone steel wire. Each and every UUC Motorwerks Tuned Springs have been both TUV approved and produced under the ISO9002 certification. All UUC springs are cold wound on the industries best CNC spring coilers (Wafio). The springs are then tempered to 1652°F, shot-peened and then block-set for long lasting performance. Each set is then powdercoated for corrosion resistance. This process is done so that the spring set will last for years to come.
What about other brands of springs?

There are many reputable brands of springs in the marketplace which manufacture springs for your BMW. Some don't lower the car enough, some lower the rear too much, some feel too stiff, or worse, some sag after a few years. Regardless, most all aftermarket springs are designed to be used with aftermarket shocks and struts. Of course, this can add $500-$700 more to the price of your suspension upgrade. Additionally, there is not guarantee that the springs and shocks that you purchased will work in perfect harmony (but that's a completely other story).



Go check it out.....

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/
 
Thanks scin!

Eibach's claims the same but with a lot less words :)

Don't think I've heard of UCC though. Are they reputable? It is likely that I'll check out a few eibach dealers/reputable bm specialist to see what they say about their products. However, that will not happen in the near future. My tyres need replacing pretty soon and it will cost a bomb (17" series 40 adn 45). :eek: No more budget for springs.....

Cheers!
 
Damn! was kinda hoping that you could be the guinea pig.....
UUC well known in the States....
It's an acronym for Underground Upgrade Club... pretty cool!

Here's a bit of their background...



For those automotive enthusiasts who have "significant others" (wives, husbands, etc.) who do not understand the desire and need to enhance the performance of a vehicle, welcome to the club.

If you ever get these kinds of questions: "Why do you need new wheels when the old ones are fine? Why do you need new suspension if the current ones aren't worn out? Isn't your current car fast enough?" - we empathize with you.  You might just have to hide a few things from the Missus or your Old Man. You know the drill...no credit card or check purchases... sneaking cash to buy upgrades to feed your automotive addiction. For your convenience, UUC Motorwerks accepts cash and we ship discretely. We can even ship to your employer!
The UUC does NOT stand for "cheap" or "inexpensive" upgrades. We all know the expression, "you get what you pay for." At UUC, we make sure you get more than you pay for.??What UUC also stands for is ultimate quality. When we see the need for a part, it's because the offerings in the marketplace are simply not good enough. If we can make it better, we'll make it. If we make it, it will be the best. That's our design and manufacturing philosophy here at UUC Motorwerks.
 
Reviving an old thread as I have similar question. Anyone tried replacing the shocks with Bilstein B6 and using back the standard spring. Since the coupe is already lower as standard, Bilstein describe the B6 are for those who expect more damping power from your shock absorber – even under loads – but don’t want to opt for an all-out sports model, the BILSTEIN B6 is the ideal solution. Bilstein also mentioned that if we choose to install lowering springs, we should get the B8 instead.

Anyone using the B6/standard spring combo on the Ci ?
 


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