320i or 328i ?

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Can't really find reviews of F30 320i, mostly on 328i. But here are some I could find, just to share with 320i owners or future owners:


GoAuto.com.au
The question in many buyers’ minds will be: is it worth $$$ to step up? After all, the 320i and 328i share the same 2.0-litre TwinPower turbocharged four-cylinder engine, although the pumped-up version in the 328i delivers a handy 35kW of extra power.

On the road, the difference is not as marked as you might think. The key is the creamy torque delivery of both versions of this engine in the normal driving range, which masks any obvious deficiency in performance.

The twin-scroll turbo eliminates turbo lag – a key goal for BMW in its switch away from normally aspirated engines – delivering on-demand performance from idle to the redline.

It is only as the revs climb that the frisky 328i shades the 320i, with the former hitting the 100km/h mark a full 1.5 seconds faster, at 6.1 seconds.

Another triumph for the 320i is the matching of the engine with the new eight-speed automatic transmission that has found its way down through the range to the ‘3’, across the range.

In terms of performance, the average motorist can rest assured that the 320i not only does the job, it does it surprisingly well.


Sgcarmart.com
http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_reviews.php?CarCode=11120

4.5/5


Performancedrive.com.au
2012 BMW 320i SPORT LINE – OVERVIEW

You may think the base model 3 Series is a bit of a slouch when it comes to engine power and acceleration, however, the new 2012 BMW 320i (F30) aims to change all that with the help of a feisty turbocharged engine under the bonnet – a first for a base model petrol 3 Series. The new model gets more technology and improved efficiency, while the styling has been honed for a sleeker and more aerodynamic look

Not only are turbocharged engines more economical these days, their power delivery is becoming more and more linear, like a naturally aspirated (NA) engine. It’s to the point where the term ‘turbo-lag’ is almost a phrase of the past. The bonus upshot for us performance enthusiasts is these new engines also offer more power and lots more low-down torque than an equivalent NA.

With the new 320i, that’s exactly what BMW has achieved. The new model is 20kW more powerful than the predecessor and it offers 70Nm more torque. The increased grunt comes from the company’s new 2.0-litre N20 turbocharged four-cylinder engine producing 135kW and 270Nm.

Peak power is achieved at 5000rpm, while peak torque is available from just 1250rpm up until 4500rpm. This means there’s always plenty of oomph ready to be dispensed at the flex of your ankle. The engine still encourages you to rev on towards the red section of the tacho too, like a true sports sedan should.

2012 BMW 320i SPORT LINE – ON THE ROAD
If you smash the throttle off the mark, wheelspin can be achieved in the 320i. This might sound like a silly and rather crude way of evaluating a vehicle, however, we want to bring this up to give you an indication of how far the performance and acceleration of the base model 3 Series has come. Compared with the predecessor 320i, the new F30 320i has an official 0-100km/h time of just 7.6 seconds (we tested 7.5) while the old model managed it in a pretty ordinary 10.4 seconds. This is a huge improvement. It’s only 0.5 seconds behind a Volkswagen Golf GTI.

Out on the road the new 320i never feels like it’s lacking in power, in fact, you can tell the engine has more to give; the same engine, albeit with a different turbo and compression ratio, is featured in the 328i with 180kW/350Nm (full review coming soon). In other words, steep hills needn’t be avoided anymore, even if you are carrying a full load.

The TwinPower variable geometry turbo means there’s plenty of torque available virtually all the time. When the torque peaks at 4500rpm, peak power is just 500rpm away to pull it the rest of the way up to the 6500rpm redline.

For us driving enthusiasts, the engine provides exciting point-to-point acceleration, with great pick up coming out from tight bends. It’s also got plenty of top end when you’re in between them, with the engine willing to keep on screaming as the momentum keeps building at a constant and consistent rate.

2012 BMW 320i SPORT LINE – VERDICT
This is the most powerful, most economical, and the most technically advanced and aerodynamically efficient base model petrol 3 Series ever made. It’s also the most powerful base model medium-sized premium sedan out of the two German rivals; Audi A4 1.8 TFSI (125kW) and Mercedes-Benz C 180 CGI (115kW) too.

It’s both ready to take on some serious speeds and the twisty stuff (especially with the M Sport suspension), yet it’s also very efficient and gentle at the petrol pumps. We averaged around 7.6L/100km on test, while the official average is just 6.0L/100km.

If all that is not enough of a reason to want to buy one then we don’t know what is.
 
Rubbish.....saving the money to get an entry model and splurge to modify the car? What kind of logic is that.
Why not get a myvi and modify it into a ferrari enzo? Haha.

Get the 328i, no need to think twice. If you get a 320i, you will have the itch to ask for more and will not be happy afterall if you have tested the 328i. My opinion is, 328i is perfect in terms of handling and performance, it's a perfectly balanced car and no additional modification is required.

Also, modification translates to future headaches. :)
 
if i had to buy one, i would buy the 320i and get a proper kit to push it up to 328i power levels, after all its still the same 2.0 4 pot with a different tune.
its only a matter of time till someone comes up with a plug and play kit for it. then i would have a pretty good q ship. my only worry would be if the gearbox can take the abuse.
and if i were to buy a 328, i would still try to get more out of it too... i am pretty sure anybody on this site, would not leave thier cars unmodded.

on reflection, i would just buy a 2nd hand 335i, comes with 6 cylinders and more than enough power to blow most cars away. and there one on mudah for 178k now too...
 
ljsaw;783637 said:
Rubbish.....saving the money to get an entry model and splurge to modify the car? What kind of logic is that.
Why not get a myvi and modify it into a ferrari enzo? Haha.

Get the 328i, no need to think twice. If you get a 320i, you will have the itch to ask for more and will not be happy afterall if you have tested the 328i. My opinion is, 328i is perfect in terms of handling and performance, it's a perfectly balanced car and no additional modification is required.

Also, modification translates to future headaches. :)

agreed. buy a viva, strap 2 turboes, new springs, new 19 inches, new GPS, new xenons and all.

maybe a bit quicker than 320i. there! its better! you save probably 150k
 
buy within your budget simple, if you can afford 328i go with it else 320i is good enuf.
if you are performance freak and love remit go for 328i even egine is same if not mistaken the bore is different , bmw not stupid know we all will mod it one.
 
dark1234;783694 said:
buy within your budget simple, if you can afford 328i go with it else 320i is good enuf.
if you are performance freak and love remit go for 328i even egine is same if not mistaken the bore is different , bmw not stupid know we all will mod it one.
Engine is same bore and stroke. Engine tuning definitely different but not sure about the turbo and other parts.
 
lol. i still think when making these sort of choices, a lot of discussion will only scratch the surfaces of many details that is put into the actual production and design of the product. for us end consumers, it always boils down to very practical essentials. finance, and then driving experience. if u can afford it, then u can delve on how the car makes you feel, worth or not. experiencing the thing is always better than just looking at numbers and words. i would like to think the 328 would definitely make you feel better both in driving, performance and comfort, but also feel more shiok cos you're driving 2.8. haha. just my 2cents.
 
There are differences and RM50k justifies them. Driving experiences are personal assessment, ego aside, the RM50k should give you the differences in driving feeling and that justifies paying extra. But 320i is still a BMW, the buyers also pays large amount of hard earned money to pay for them, what is there to whack? Peace, be happy. If not good, buy another one.

320i /328i

Differences
Power (bhp) =184/245
Torque (Nm) =270/350
Acceleration (0-100 km/h) = 7.6s/6.1s
Top speed (km/h) =233/250
Fuel consumption (km/L) = 16.1/15.9

Same
Engine capacity (cc) =1,998/1,997 (SAME)
Engine type =SAME
Bore x Stroke (mm) = SAME
Transmission =SAME
Drive type = SAME
Fuel tank capacity (L) = SAME
Wheelbase (mm) = SAME (singapore same but M'sia?)
Dimensions (mm) =SAME
Min turning radius (mm) = SAME
Kerb weight (kg) = SAME
Brakes (Front) = VD (SAME)
Brakes (Rear) = VD (SAME)
Suspension (Front)=Double-wishbone/double-wishbone (SAME)
Suspension (Rear) = SAME
 
320i vs 328i further differences
Wheel -- 17" vs 18"
Tyre -- 225/50/17 vs 225/45/18
Exhaust -- single / double
Speaker -- 6 vs 9
Paddle shift -- no vs yes
Gear lever -- normal looking without leather wrapping at bottom vs sport looking with leather wrapping at bottom
Meter (fuel comsumtion/ECO) -- analogue vs digital
Display -- 6.5" vs 8.8"
GPS / BMW app / BMW live -- no vs yes
Variable sports steering -- no vs yes
 
charcoal;783712 said:
320i /328i

Differences
Power (bhp) =184/245
Torque (Nm) =270/350
Acceleration (0-100 km/h) = 7.6s/6.1s
Top speed (km/h) =233/250
Fuel consumption (km/L) = 16.1/15.9

Same
Engine capacity (cc) =1,998/1,997 (SAME)
Engine type =SAME
Bore x Stroke (mm) = SAME
Transmission =SAME
Drive type = SAME
Fuel tank capacity (L) = SAME
Wheelbase (mm) = SAME (singapore same but M'sia?)
Dimensions (mm) =SAME
Min turning radius (mm) = SAME
Kerb weight (kg) = SAME
Brakes (Front) = VD (SAME)
Brakes (Rear) = VD (SAME)
Suspension (Front)=Double-wishbone/double-wishbone (SAME)
Suspension (Rear) = SAME

This is not entirely accurate, like saying apple and guava is green so therefore the same fruit. Please visit http://www.bmw.com.my/com/en/newveh...owroom/compare.html?model_1=328i&model_2=320i for more details. E.g. While its the same engine block, a simple detail such as compression ratios; for 320i it is 11:1 and while 328i is 10:1, tells u that piston rings are different and possibly the pistons themselves. So I will say that both engines are quite different.

And while both have Ventilated Disc brakes, they are of different sizes. etc....

Jason
 
I can't understand why this quibbling has gone on for so long :p

I think the stats have been amply laid out, so it all boils down to this:-

If don't wanna spend the RM50k, the 320i is a great choice. If you never tasted anything beyond 2,500 c.c. 6 pot before, you will never feel short changed in terms of the 320i's performance.

If you're a performance freak or got insecurity issues (especially the fella you hate most drives a VW GTi), then don't think anymore, you have to get the 328i to feel better.

By the way, the reviews Charcoal produced here is quite accurate.
 
ljsaw;783637 said:
Rubbish.....saving the money to get an entry model and splurge to modify the car? What kind of logic is that.
Why not get a myvi and modify it into a ferrari enzo? Haha.

Get the 328i, no need to think twice. If you get a 320i, you will have the itch to ask for more and will not be happy afterall if you have tested the 328i. My opinion is, 328i is perfect in terms of handling and performance, it's a perfectly balanced car and no additional modification is required.

Also, modification translates to future headaches. :)

*Like* this post. Went through the same headache the last time with other cars. If get a car, get the top of the range (if you can afford it). Mods really do equate to more and more headaches. But of course the modding journey is indeed a fun one! :D
 
Wow... a lot of advice against chip tuning. Looks like to have to abandon the plan than.

Thanks for the heads up...

Btw, going back to the thread's initial question, i agree... if u can affort d 328, then go for it mate..
 
The advise is not against chip / piggyback tuning. For those who want to mod in order to have have that extra bit of power in reserve for which ever model, 320i, 320d, 328i even 335i please go ahead. I am planning to do so as well when I have the cash. The advise given here is that it's unrealistic to buy a 320i and hope to mod it up to 328i specs by spending less than the purchase price differential.Jason
 
jason;783922 said:
The advise is not against chip / piggyback tuning. For those who want to mod in order to have have that extra bit of power in reserve for which ever model, 320i, 320d, 328i even 335i please go ahead. I am planning to do so as well when I have the cash. The advise given here is that it's unrealistic to buy a 320i and hope to mod it up to 328i specs by spending less than the purchase price differential.Jason

Nah... i get it. my remark earlier was in d spirit of putting humor in cyberspace... Even i understand dat sarcasm is part of interactions here.

I dont plan to change my 320i to be anything that it is not. I merely want to open its capacity to what potential it has. Chip tuning will go to 20% increament d most... therefore, it will never be a 328i. I get a nice offer for the 18", and took it... and by the way, i wont be acting like i hv a 328i by putting a 328i badge or 335i for that matter coz face it, i bought a 320i... period!

I intended to end d discussion and respect the thread for its intended question, thats all.

Again thread owner, 328i if u hv d budget for it mate... and sorry if i hv brought the discussion out of context
 
Thank you all for all the replies!

i think i will get the 328i. A fully tuned 320i will never be the same as a fully tuned 328i.
 
The 320i performance can be enhanced but it probably wont be anywhere close to the 328i and especially on reliability. Unless u stripped both engines apart and study in details what made them different.
 
Juan Powerblow;783727 said:
I can't understand why this quibbling has gone on for so long :p

I think the stats have been amply laid out, so it all boils down to this:-

If don't wanna spend the RM50k, the 320i is a great choice. If you never tasted anything beyond 2,500 c.c. 6 pot before, you will never feel short changed in terms of the 320i's performance.

If you're a performance freak or got insecurity issues (especially the fella you hate most drives a VW GTi), then don't think anymore, you have to get the 328i to feel better.

By the way, the reviews Charcoal produced here is quite accurate.

Well said , buy the 328i buddy :)
 
MarcoMeswara;784940 said:
Well said , buy the 328i buddy :)

Already did buddy :)

It so happens I also baby sit a F10 520i often and have a lot of respect for this 'detuned' engine. Recently, I had a few drag runs with the F10 vs an E90 325i M Sports. Who would have known the 520i i faster?! Shock, horror and awe, but the N20's torque curve is a real marvel be it in a 320i or 328i.

For me, the RS250 matching 328i was my only choice coz... I got insecurity issues, hahahahaha!
 
Juan Powerblow;785056 said:
Already did buddy :)

It so happens I also baby sit a F10 520i often and have a lot of respect for this 'detuned' engine. Recently, I had a few drag runs with the F10 vs an E90 325i M Sports. Who would have known the 520i i faster?! Shock, horror and awe, but the N20's torque curve is a real marvel be it in a 320i or 328i.

For me, the RS250 matching 328i was my only choice coz... I got insecurity issues, hahahahaha!


Just "noticed" this thread and noted u mentioned the RS250... a little off subject, while an Intriguing car, but too much torque steer even with its advanced front diffs so It cant steer when accelerating hard. Will not be a match for the 328 overall, esp once a 328i gets a proper suspension upgrade i believe.But i do sometimes think of that car and how excitingly raw it is strange :)

Conclusion..Get the 328 with the m performance chassis (onceit gets here)..
 
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