What's wrong with BMW lately?

[zib]

Guys,Just want to know your opinion a bit on this one. Not particularly BMWs but happens to Mercs as well. Eg1) 318i came with 2.0ltr engine, 320i once came with 1.9 or was it a 318i? and the E90 323i is actually a 2.5 not 2.3 2) 520i since E34? came with 2.2lt while by E60 there were 525i and 528i that were actually 3liters. And some 535 were 3.0 right?BMW used to be straight fwd such as the 316 was actually a 1.6ltr. and 323 was actually 2.3ltrNow mercs are doing that as well, the W204 C250 was actually a 1.8 with a higher hp and if I am not mistaken th local last batch W211 230 was actually a 2.5cc V6 whereas the imported ones E240 all came with a 2.6 V6..hmmmm:stupid:I believe soon the japs will follow suit hehe..

 

[MRsamdol]

efficiency and bottom line...

Used to be that to make 320,325,328 etc requires different engines now all that required is a 2.0l engine with different power output or force induction this helps car companies to save money.

 

[moots]

ya lor.agree wz zib.why can't they just keep things simple anymore.the numbers used to directly equate to the engine capacity.it shud not relate to the HP as is the case today.in the 70's my dad used to have a merc 240d and a 300d.....240d=2400 cc diesel 4 pot and 300d = 3000cc diesel 5 pot.mannnn....i remember the most we could get out of the 240d was 160-170km/h....unlike today's 2.4 diesel...petrol engine pon cair....

 

[haywire]

Its more to do with power output, not cylinder capacity anymore. If they were naming it like in the old days it'll be difficult to differentiate all the variations they could get with a single engine. e.g 2.0 engine with NA, single turbo, twin turbo etc. Extreme example is the new M550d, its a 3.0 diesel engine with THREE turbos. And to think that BMW didnt even have a turbo engine within their product range for roughly 25 years, until this recent few years ago.

 

[wobbles]

I have another theory - the bigger the number, the higher the price ... it makes sense to 'up-name' a product, to command a higher premium.

The best example - F10 520i N20 engine vs F10 528i N20 engine... what was it I read, at least RM 40,000 difference?

 

[phas3r]

they represent the power instead of capacity.

imagine both 320i 2.0 turbo and 328i 2.0 turbo are both called 320i, that's gonna be confusing.

 

[MRTA.chew]

this trend started during e36 days with 323 being a 2.5 back in the 1990s. it gets more confusing nowadays with some cars being debadged.

the toughest to decipher is a royalty car - no badge, no road tax and you cant go near it. you can only try to guess based on the rims, rear exhaust and side trimmings. these are mainly merc E and S class.

 

[BlackCat]

I'm waiting for the day Proton and Perodua will be using the same designation for their engines...