Roll Call for Diesel Owners

[fifty5]

MPOB has powers to instruct oil companies?

 

[zaak]

 

[zaak]

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak F10 520d

 

[zaak]

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[ck82]

Fifty5, because the instruction is supported by the government ministry.

 

[affan66]

We need a concerted effort from all club guests and official members on this one.

Even if you are not affected, do help out fellow comrades. We hope for either of the two:
1. Written guarantee that all bmw diesels can support B10 and will not affect the warranty as well as if need be, adjust the BSRI service intervals
2. Customers are given a choice to use B7 or B10, at diesel kiosk, if B7 can be provided, i do not mind paying a premium.

Please spread the word to fellow diesel owners from other makes such as Ford, Mazda, Toyota, etc.

 

[F10 CREW]

Agree with bro Affan. Spread the word. If we need to have 1 register for diesel car owners, we can have it here. All diesel Toyota, Mazda, Peugeot, Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Audi, Merc, Porsche etc can list your name and vehicle models here. Say NO to B10!

 

[F10 CREW]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41.

 

[komeng91]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41. komeng91 - E71 xDrive 40d

 

[murad70]

42. Murad f10 520d

 

[awyongcarl]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41. komeng91 - E71 xDrive 40d
42. Murad f10 520d
43. awyongcarl - F30 320d

 

[ck82]

When the idrive shows an estimated 30km before empty, I know it's time to get the orange juice.

I was so excited to see the blue nozzle. Did a full tank and drive on.

The car was really smooth and the diesel clatter noise was largely reduced.

Thanks BHP...

 

[ArrZeeM]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41. komeng91 - E71 xDrive 40d
42. Murad f10 520d
43. awyongcarl - F30 320d
44. ArrZeeM - F10 520d

 

[F10 CREW]

Dear Diesel Owners,

It is certainly good news that Euro 5 Diesel has arrived on our shores after the agony of a long nail biting wait. Our neighbour across the causeway in Singapore are lucky to have B Zero Euro 5 Diesel by Caltex. We on the other hand considered lucky to even have Euro 5 recently even though it's of B7 quality.

For those of you whom are new to this B10 or B7 issue, let me clear the air for you. B10 indicates that the diesel consist of 10% oil palm and 90% diesel. Our current Diesel BMW can only tolerate up max B7 which means 7% oil palm and 93% diesel. It's written on our fuel caps. Go check if you need proof.
Because oil palm price is low and Malaysia has a surplus of it, the think tanks in the government plans to implement B10 into the diesel. BMW, Mercedes, Ford, Mitsubishi and even Toyota has voiced out that their cars cannot use B10. It will cause complications on the engines. However, government plans to carry on with this B10 plan is still unknown.

Let's look at the consequences if B10 is implemented into our diesels. Yes! This will also be implemented in your favourite blue pumps that pumps out Euro 5 diesels. For us BMW users, the likely consequences are:
1. We will be spending more money on maintenance as we probably have to change the engine oil after every 5000 km.

2. The lifespan of the engine will be severely affected.

3. It will be difficult to sell off your Diesel units and if you did manage to sell it off, I'll bet you are not going to get a good value out of it.

4. People are generally going to categorise buying a Diesel with no other option than B10 is basically committing vehicular suicide!

So what can existing Diesel BMW owners do? We can't take the risk of holding a protest infront of BMW Malaysia similar to what the Volkswagen Owners did to Volkswagen Malaysia. It'll basically be shooting ourselves in the foot as that will make the secondhand value of Diesel BMW plummet to the ground like a skydiver rushing to the ground without a parachute. Yes! We can learn from the VW mistakes.

Let's discuss here creatively and objectively on what will be the right way to handle this situation. It's midnight and I can only think of the following questions:
1. How can we convince the government to provide us diesel users the existing Euro 5 B7 diesel instead of standardizing B10 on all the pumps?

2. With just BMW users making noise, it's not really going to have an impact. It needs to be collective. It's needs to be voiced out together with other diesel users from different makes. How do we get all diesel users under 1 roof to make a collective effort to voice out our concerns?

3. What do you think BMW Malaysia and the other car companies roles should be in this situation ?

4. Can we voice out to consumer affairs department that we the diesel consumers are not being treated fairly if B10 is implemented? I really wonder if the consumer affairs department can help us in this situation ?

5. If government decides to bull doze through with B10 implementation, how should we be compensated by the government?

Ladies and gentlemen, the clock is ticking. It has been said that October 2015 is the planned roll out for B10. We should already have a plan in place. Better late than never eh? Our government is infamous in flip flopping the rules and regulations. For me personally, I hope they do a flip flop on this and forget about its implementation.

SAY NO TO B10 ! BE TREATED FAIRLY & DEMAND FOR YOUR RIGHTS !

Another day another SAY NO TO B10 DAY

Yours Faithfully.

 

[F10 CREW]

What a coincidence that Paul Tan published the B10 issue. Read it here....http://paultan.org/2015/08/13/euro-5-diesel-to-go-the-b10-biodiesel-route/?utm_source=ShellB10&utm_medium=fbnewsfeed&utm_campaign=fbnewsfeed

 

[ALIAS]

What about a class action against the Ministry / Govt for forcing B10 implementation knowing full well it'll cause engine failure? don't think they want any more trouble. got enough to deal with right now.

Any lawyer bro here can advise?

PS. all diesel sold in S'pore is Euro 5. not just Caltex. it's country standard.

 

[F10 CREW]

Alias,

In my opinion, the class action against the Ministry / Govt for forcing B10 implementation knowing full well it'll cause engine failure can only be done after their implementation. That said, I am also keen to hear any opinion from any lawyers here.

On the Caltex thingy, I only read from an article that Caltex has E5 B-Zero (Pure E5 Diesel) . I also know that E5 is a standard in Singapore. But may I ask, are all the pumps in Singapore E5 B-Zero?

 

[initialM]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41. komeng91 - E71 xDrive 40d
42. Murad f10 520d
43. awyongcarl - F30 320d
44. ArrZeeM - F10 520d
45. Fahmi@initialM - F30 320d

 

[ALIAS]

Alias,

In my opinion, the class action against the Ministry / Govt for forcing B10 implementation knowing full well it'll cause engine failure can only be done after their implementation. That said, I am also keen to hear any opinion from any lawyers here.

On the Caltex thingy, I only read from an article that Caltex has E5 B-Zero (Pure E5 Diesel) . I also know that E5 is a standard in Singapore. But may I ask, are all the pumps in Singapore E5 B-Zero?

Yes. Singapore has no interest in blending biodiesel. So all pumps are B-zero.

 

[teighlour]

SAY NO TO B10 BIO Diesel !!!

Not necessary has to be a BMW. Other makes are welcome. Spread the word around. List your names here.

1. Yours Faithfully - F10 520D
2. M Najib - E90 320d
3. Vincent - E90 320D
4. CK - E90 320D
5. affan66 - F10 520D
6. supergripen - E84 X1 xDrive20d
7. junjumatun@mzizzy - F30 320d
8. BMW320D - E90 320D
9. sureshdr - F30 320d
10. Tariq - E90 320d
11. Ahmad Firdaus - E71 X6 35d
12. Azeedy - F30 320d
13. Sembrono - F30 - 320d
14. Namidub - e90 320d
15. doc9802 - E92 320d
16. wuk51 e90 320d
17. dzuljazz2001 E60 530d
18. Shatesh - E90 320d
19. alias - E90 320d
20. Shafrie - e60 525d
21. Xaven - F30 320d
22. Jim2106-e90 320d
23. Farid Zainol -E90 320d
24. Tan Joon Suan - E90 320d
25. Cheam Tat Deng - E90 320d
26. Styx - E90 320d
27. Danny -E84 X1 xDrive20d
28. Adrian Yap - F30 320d
29. Khairul - E90 320d
30. Choq - F30 320d
31. Kong CH - E90 320d
32. cg - E60 520d
33. alson - F30 320d
34. ditjk - F30 320d
35. Kean - F30 320d
36. Royal Salute - E60 530D
37. mintoo - F30 320D
38. Eric - E90 320d
39. zaak - F10 520d
40. YSC - F30 320d
41. komeng91 - E71 xDrive 40d
42. Murad f10 520d
43. awyongcarl - F30 320d
44. ArrZeeM - F10 520d
45. Fahmi@initialM - F30 320d
46. Teighlour - F10 520d