Haze n air filter

[AT-Sixx]

Hi The haze is getting crazy - how bad will it affect the air filter leading to engine ie premature clogging etc ?I don't think there is a computerized aspect to monitor this unlike for engine oil right ?Cheers

 

[Volvos525i]

Yeeaaa think so need to be more pro active by may be weekly check the air filter...after all no need special tools right...

Aku ada stereng bas ko adaaa....

 

[moots]

Hi

The haze is getting crazy - how bad will it affect the air filter leading to engine ie premature clogging etc ?
I don't think there is a computerized aspect to monitor this unlike for engine oil right ?

Cheers

aieseh bro... we shud be more concerned about our lungs' premature clogging.....

dont worry about yr engine air filter.it'll last till the next service date....no biggie

 

[splee]

One suggestion, buy mask for your car.

 

[Volvos525i]

One suggestion, buy mask for your car.

I likeeeeeeee tis....

Aku ada stereng bas ko adaaa....

 

[fabianyee]

can always go to the neighbourhood mechanic and ask them to use the air gun to lightly blow on the air filter to clear the dust a bit...

 

[Volvos525i]

can always go to the neighbourhood mechanic and ask them to use the air gun to lightly blow on the air filter to clear the dust a bit...

If not around can just tab the filter on a soft base like our tyrs just to remove some dust atleast...

Aku ada stereng bas ko adaaa....

 

[AT-Sixx]

hi bros

thanks for the comments bros - appreciate it.
this haze thing really annoying - M'sia marah Indon, Indon marah syarikat Msia pulak . . .

take care everyone and stay safe in the haze - daylight driving lights are useful now in Malaysia wide 'Genting highland' simulation scenario !

cheers

 

[terry8]

aieseh bro... we shud be more concerned about our lungs' premature clogging.....

dont worry about yr engine air filter.it'll last till the next service date....no biggie

I agree - our health is more important than the car engine

 

[terry8]

hi bros

thanks for the comments bros - appreciate it.
this haze thing really annoying - M'sia marah Indon, Indon marah syarikat Msia pulak . . .

take care everyone and stay safe in the haze - daylight driving lights are useful now in Malaysia wide 'Genting highland' simulation scenario !

cheers

Are the Indonesians sure Tak Ada Syarikat Indonesia - most likely 60% or more concessions go to their local companies - Nama Syarikat pun takut nak kemukakan

 

[fabianyee]

An alternative view on the haze problem.... Not all fires are on corporate-owned land... Even if they are, no way they are burning the same place year after year as oil palm needs a few years to mature. Once planted, there shouldn't be burning.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/10/1/business/9507563&sec=business

[h=3]Saturday October 1, 2011[/h] [h=1]Why Indonesia cannot stop the fires and haze[/h] [h=2]INTERACTIONS By FRANCIS NG[/h]
SOME years ago, I travelled from Pontianak into the centre of South Kalimantan during the burning season in a hired car.
We drove many hours through a country that was completely covered in fire and smoke, but mostly smoke. It was a strange experience, not at all like what we had expected. It was quite safe to drive even though the fires were burning right up to the roadsides. There were people living among the burning vegetation in little huts all along the way, spaced out at wide intervals and carrying on as if everything was normal. No property was damaged and no lives were lost. Here and there a small flame would flare up but only for a short time and then the vegetation would continue to smoulder. These so-called forest fires were not at all like the life-threatening forest fires of Australia, the United States, and the Mediterranean. What was going on?
Our driver told us the story. The huts were occupied by settlers who were the children of the original Transmigrasi migrants from Java. Their parents had been shipped in by the government to occupy land schemes sponsored by the government. These land schemes were like the Felda schemes in Malaysia, on land cleared from forests. That was one generation ago. The children of these land schemes were now spreading out all over Kalimantan and clearing land for themselves.
The custom in Kalimantan is that any land cleared and occupied belongs to whoever clears and occupies it. Any land that reverts back to jungle is open to others to clear and claim. As a result, each settler clears as much land as possible although he is able to farm only a small part of it. The rest would revert back to jungle but is prevented from doing so by fires set by the settlers themselves whenever the weather is dry. So the same land is burnt year after year after year. These are fires on low vegetation, deliberately set by hundreds of thousands of independent poor farmers who barely survive from hand to mouth, living in absolutely primitive conditions. When will it end? When somebody buys the land and converts it to permanent organised agriculture, as for growing oil palm. The land that the settlers clear and claim represent their only hope of escape from poverty.
The timber industry could be blamed because in logging, they create roads into the forests and leave behind the dead branches and leaves that can be set on fire in the first round of burning. The oil palm industry can be blamed if it gives the settlers hope by ultimately buying land that has been cleared and repeatedly burnt. But it is ultimately the social conditions in the country that are responsible for this state of affairs.
If Malaysia did not have a strict land-ownership system whereby people could legally own land in perpetuity or for specified periods, we would quickly see a land grab and total disappearance of all our forests, followed by annual fires to keep land cleared. Our land laws were established and enforced by the British when they had absolute power to do so, in the name of the sultans. It would be difficult for countries without such laws to establish and enforce such laws now.
After that drive into the interior of Kalimantan, I visited the peat areas near the coast. These areas were also heavily covered in smoke, to the extent that the airport had to be closed, but the concept here was different. The fires were set by Bugis rice farmers from Sulawesi who had cleared the forests by fire after their gigantic ramin trees had been extracted by loggers. The peat is many metres deep and unsuitable for growing rice, so the farmers grow pineapples and other acid-tolerant plants. Every year, during the dry season, they set the peat on fire and burn of a part of it. Eventually, after about 10 years, all the peat will be burnt off and they will be able to grow rice on mineral soil.
The annual fires in Kalimantan and, I assume in Sumatra also, are not spontaneous forest fires but deliberate agricultural fires started and kept alive by hundreds of thousands of peasant farmers. Solutions like sending in the fire brigade, or raising the penalty for oil palm growers and loggers for setting forests on fire, sound good on paper but does not come anywhere near to addressing the issues.
I cannot help but suspect that the real reasons for the fires and haze were known long ago by people on the ground, but it served the purpose of the international environmental NGOs and the international news agencies to put the blame on their favourite baddies the logging and oil palm industries. So long as the problem is not examined honestly, no implementable solution is likely to be found.



l Botanist and researcher Francis Ng is the former deputy director-general of the Forest Research Institute of Malaysia. He is now the botanical consultant to Bandar Utama City Centre Sdn Bhd and the Sarawak Biodiversity Centre

 

[Volvos525i]

Thanks bro sharing some insight in here...:rock:

 

[splee]

This calls for international effort to pressure our neighbour to take immediate action to resolve the problem. Economic sanction, boycott, etc.

 

[Volvos525i]

Think so but in here dont go to overboard I guess...:smokin:

 

[splee]

I just came back from Seremban. The haze is affecting my car performance. The temperature was way higher than normal and I have to slow down. I am not sure if it's psychological but I can feel my car is struggling in the thick haze. For your information, I can see open burning on the Elite Highway towards KLIA from Subang on both side of the highway. A fire engine was seen trying to put out the bush fire. Come on, it is already bad enough, stop the open burning please.

 

[fabianyee]

I just came back from Seremban. The haze is affecting my car performance. The temperature was way higher than normal and I have to slow down. I am not sure if it's psychological but I can feel my car is struggling in the thick haze. For your information, I can see open burning on the Elite Highway towards KLIA from Subang on both side of the highway. A fire engine was seen trying to put out the bush fire. Come on, it is already bad enough, stop the open burning please.

The ELITE highway aledi burnt since earlier last week when I drove down to Johor, but I doubt it's started by ppl. Most probably due to the dry season.. And it was in the news too, apparently it's some underground peat fire which is hard to extinguished...

 

[AT-Sixx]

I just came back from Seremban. The haze is affecting my car performance. The temperature was way higher than normal and I have to slow down. I am not sure if it's psychological but I can feel my car is struggling in the thick haze. For your information, I can see open burning on the Elite Highway towards KLIA from Subang on both side of the highway. A fire engine was seen trying to put out the bush fire. Come on, it is already bad enough, stop the open burning please.

This is interesting to me and am trying to make sense of the observations.

If a vehicle struggles through a thick haze and it continues to struggle after the thick haze - it could mean, the airfilter is probably a little more clogged up than usual.

But if the vehicle is no longer struggling after the thick haze, it could mean that the air filter is not that clogged up after all - which is plausible as the dust particulate is really small and would pass through the air filter into the car. Perhaps, the haze doesnt quite have the effect on the airfilter as i had thought originally - it would be caught with a HEPA filter but for car use, perhaps the filters are not designed to catch all these - maybe.

Cant quite figure out the rise in temperature tho - unless the outside temperature that stretch of the highway was much higher. Cant understand correlation - appreciate any insights from anyone on this

 

[terry8]

Most electrical shop ran out of air purifier

 

[Volvos525i]

Well eng also needs clean air like we do in daily life right hehe...
So not to be worry too much after back home open up the hood let the eng cools down then check your air filter if there is some dirts just give a knock on a soft base like your tyrs will do to remove some dirts that accumulate there...

Aku ada stereng lori....ko adaaa....

 

[fabianyee]

I think the major factor is the sudden rise in ambient air temp that was momentarily choking the engine...