E46 Transmission Fluid

[Mouse]

Originally posted by chris2000@Jun 9 2006, 04:23 PM
yup, i think so.. My car now 96k+ km now and planning to change the trans oil + filter + gasket change plus my axle oil change maybe next week.

change your brake fluid and power steering fluid as well

 

[Raymond@M-BeasT]

i think i'm going to flush it during my next service... :unsure:

 

[Mouse]

Originally posted by Raymond@M-BeasT@Jun 12 2006, 08:38 PM
i think i'm going to flush it during my next service... :unsure:

r u gonna do it in kanak-kanak auto?

 

[Raymond@M-BeasT]

Originally posted by Mouse+Jun 12 2006, 08:40 PM-->QUOTE (Mouse @ Jun 12 2006, 08:40 PM)

 

[leakwoon]

i go back to my M-Perf.

 

[Mouse]

Originally posted by Raymond@M-BeasT+Jun 12 2006, 08:48 PM-->QUOTE (Raymond@M-BeasT @ Jun 12 2006, 08:48 PM)

Originally posted by Mouse@Jun 12 2006, 08:40 PM

 

[Raymond@M-BeasT]

Originally posted by Mouse+Jun 12 2006, 09:36 PM-->QUOTE (Mouse @ Jun 12 2006, 09:36 PM)

Originally posted by Raymond@M-BeasT@Jun 12 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Mouse@Jun 12 2006, 08:40 PM

 

[tkew]

bro can u pls chk with them how much inclusive of the filter+seal, thinking to do mine also.. may be we can go together

 

[leakwoon]

bro tkew

do in MIKO clinic la

all de best

ekekek

 

[tkew]

thinking also but u have their contact no to chk with them how much ...when is your turn bro.. wait for u lah..

 

[leakwoon]

i tot u got their number liao?

aiyoo

me?? duno la

maybe wait for gearbox kaboom

or i just leak it n fill back new oil

 

[funfer_fahrer]

These statements were taken from 2 sites that I searched...one on a VW and the other BMW. Have a read and make your own conclusion. I guess we are not alone.

"At my last BMWCCA meeting I read an actual letter from the chief engineer for ZF transmissions used in the BMW's.
He said that these trannies were not designed for any type of lifetime fluid- period and recommended the fluid/filter be changed every 60K miles. No exceptions. He mentioned in the letter that he did not know that BMW was using a lifetime fluid and strongly urged them not to do that after discovering this.

"My mechanic (BimmerWerks, Harahan LA) is a member of a world wide tech group of BMW mechanics and shop owners. They all agree that the lifetime tranny fluid is BUNK.
This particular ZF engineer is part of that group too.

Note- if you ever have to have your tranny worked on, and the fluid is drained-- the BMW dealer will reuse the fluid!! Yes- pur it right back in! Incredible but true. Only if you insist, will they use new fluid (about 150.00 a bottle- @ 2 per tranny)

Coincidentally, the Lifetime fluid is made right here in nearby New Orleans LA, and shipped to Germany. Our shop looked into buying directly from them, but were unsuccesful."


and the other:

"We all know that synthetics are much better lubricants than mineral-base oils. They protect better and last longer... BUT THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER... as VW implies with their "Lifetime" automatic transmission fluid (ATF). In a legal context, "Lifetime" really means the duration of "VW Powertrain Warranty". Upon its expiration, the $JOKE$ is on you.
After having done some reading about VW's mysterious lifetime ATF, I just replaced the ATF and filter for my NB. The filter & oil pan were coated with a layer of sediment of shiny, metallic shavings. I didn't take any pictures but here's a thread posted by an Audi owner who had sent his used ATF to a lab for an oil analysis...
(note: Audi & VW use the same ATF):
http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/22083.phtml ... look at the oil specs"

I hope this write up would clear our doubts. After extensive research regarding this matter, this is what I found:

Transmission Hydraulics​

Transmission Fluid (Oil)​

The automatic transmission provides pressure regulated hydraulic fluid which is filtered for all of the transmissions functional requirements. All BMW automatic transmissions are designed to operate with specific fluids. Use of non-approved oil will cause malfunctions and irreparable transmission damage which is not covered by BMW warranty.

The transmission fluid provides the following functions:
• Lubricates mechanical components (planetary gears, bearings etc.).
• Removes heat and transfers heat to transmission cooling system. (Heat Exchanger).
• Removes debris and contaminants to sump and filter when circulated.
• Provides a transfer of kinetic energy in the torque converter.
• Allows hydraulic operation of mechanical components (clutches, brakes) via control of the valve body.
Also, transmission fluid has various properties to prevent oxidation and breakdown from heat and friction. Each type of transmission fluid has properties specific for each transmission application.
Fluid level is crucial in the proper operation of an automatic transmission. Improper fluid levels will cause improper operation and eventually irreparable transmission damage.

Improper fluid level can cause:
• A low fluid level can cause an interruption in oil flow during fast acceleration or hard braking which can cause gear shift malfunctions.
• An excessively high fluid level can cause the rotating mechanical components to
paddle in the oil. This produces foam which introduces air into the hydraulic
system.
• A low fluid level can also cause transmission overheating causing premature transmission failure.
​

Transmission Fluid Application​

There are numerous types of transmission fluid used in BMW transmissions. With the exception of the early transmissions (4HP22/24, A4S310/270R and the A5S310Z) all current BMW transmissions use “Lifetime Fill” transmission fluid. There is no maintenance required for these transmissions. It is important to use the correct fluid. Incorrect use of the transmission fluid can cause non warrantable transmission damage.

When performing repairs on transmissions with lifetime fluid, it is important to drain the transmission fluid in to a clean container for re-use. New fluid should only be used for transmission replacement and for topping off after repairs.
Also, transmission fluid level is vital to the proper operation of the transmission. Refer to BMW Service Bulletin B 24 01 98 for proper fluid level checking procedures.
When servicing or repairing BMW automatic transmissions, refer to TIS for fluid capacities.
For fluid types refer to the “Operating Fluids Manual”.​

 

[Ade]

Anybody knows what's the correct fluid for N42 engine?

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Anybody knows what's the correct fluid for N42 engine?

PM me your last 7 digits of your chasis number and I'll let you know.

 

[Ade]

PM me your last 7 digits of your chasis number and I'll let you know.

Dude...ur PM is full..

BTW, its NG09093...

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Dude...ur PM is full..

BTW, its NG09093...

Sorry about that. Anyway, if your 318i (N42) comes with an auto transmission, the transmission model is A5S 390R which is Hydramatic type. You gonna need 8.10 Litres of TEXACO ETL8072B as your fuid type. To make things easier your BMW part number is 83 22 0 024 359.

Cheers.

 

[Ade]

Thanks Bro..

Anyway, what I see is that ppl usually go for Esso or some sort...

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Thanks Bro..

Anyway, what I see is that ppl usually go for Esso or some sort...

Most of the ZF types use ESSO but yours being a Hydramatic type will need TEXACO.

 

[Ade]

Ooo...okok...where's the best place to do this?

Pardon my ignorance..what's the difference between the ZF and Hydramatic?

 

[ekhwanfa]

Anybody can tell what is the correct oil for my 2000 318i tranny A4S 200R?
thanks in advance...