E36 M43 318i turbo kit

[Ade]

Guys,Where to get a low boost turbo kit? I know there's one from Mosselmann that's uses the stock ECU, stock pump and stock injectors. Where to get one in Malaysia? Does it really cost ~rm5k to have it fixed?Thanks!

 

[Ade]

nobody ah.....

 

[NewBeemw]

Wah when I saw ur thread title I thought some1 beat me to it. The cost of just installing the turbo kit does not come to 5k if u get a second hand unit which c/w complete piping and all. Would post the details when my car is completed. TC.

 

[ALBundy]

Guys,
Where to get a low boost turbo kit? I know there's one from Mosselmann that's uses the stock ECU, stock pump and stock injectors. Where to get one in Malaysia? Does it really cost ~rm5k to have it fixed?

Thanks!

If all the components are intact, it shouldn't cost 5k to get it "fixed".

Alternatively you can build your own turbo kit, with better performance than the Mosselman unit.

I did one before, on the M42 before I sold it. Last dynoed, more than 200whp, running with a TD04 turbine and Unichip with 328 injectors. The key to a good system is the header. Mosselman uses a "log style" header which is not efficient, a 4 to 1 header will be better in terms of spooling and a smoother+higher gas flow.

The header itself is about 1.4k, then go to chop for a used turbine (paid 400), the rest like intercooler, piping, blowoff valve and etc can be purchased new.

Cheers

 

[ramsing]

so expensive to get some 'head' ar?? i tot china now can give head for rm100 only?

If all the components are intact, it shouldn't cost 5k to get it "fixed".

Alternatively you can build your own turbo kit, with better performance than the Mosselman unit.

I did one before, on the M42 before I sold it. Last dynoed, more than 200whp, running with a TD04 turbine and Unichip with 328 injectors. The key to a good system is the header. Mosselman uses a "log style" header which is not efficient, a 4 to 1 header will be better in terms of spooling and a smoother+higher gas flow.

The header itself is about 1.4k, then go to chop for a used turbine (paid 400), the rest like intercooler, piping, blowoff valve and etc can be purchased new.

Cheers

 

[Ade]

seems like a lot of work leh...don't intend to get massive power, something usable with the stock system....

 

[Ade]

bump bump......

 

[ALBundy]

seems like a lot of work leh...don't intend to get massive power, something usable with the stock system....

Then dont use a piggyback ECU, just an adjustable fuel regulator like mosselman system. Run 0.5 bar boost

 

[Ade]

albundy....please pm me ur contact. would like to have a chat with u to understand all these and how safe and reliable is the system as a daily driver...

 

[Ade]

bump bump..so difficult to get sifoos on turbo?

 

[McFir7]

I m having a healthy 318is. Sometime I was thinking to fit in a soft / low pressure turbo like oem car. As such as Volvo s40..

But I don't know how and where to get advice from. By the way I m in Penang.

 

[turbology]

What Albundy suggested : 4-to-1 exhuast manifold (aka header), used TD04 turbine and Unichip with 328 injectors, this is as cheap as you can get and safe too. I am not sure how "simple" you want but this is as simple as it gets.

With the low boost you are aiming, you can skip the intercooler and blow-off valve. But recomended the BOV installed to prolong your turbo.
Running with Adjustable Fuel Regulator, is like you are building a time bomb.

Instead of "having a chat with sifu", how much do you know about TURBOCHARGE system ? or Supercharge ? or any FI method ?

I did my own turbo system with my previous car. When I said "built my own", I literally mean it. From welding mandrel bend 3" exhaust starting from downpipe, to tuning the fuelmap at all RPM, and all Throttle % with WideBand O2 sensor.

Cheers

 

[berserkdroid]

4 -1 headers are the way to go. Forget about kit "log-type" manifolds coz they suck. Any boost gains derived from the turbo will be throttled by the restriction in the header.

 

[Ade]

What Albundy suggested : 4-to-1 exhuast manifold (aka header), used TD04 turbine and Unichip with 328 injectors, this is as cheap as you can get and safe too. I am not sure how "simple" you want but this is as simple as it gets.

With the low boost you are aiming, you can skip the intercooler and blow-off valve. But recomended the BOV installed to prolong your turbo.
Running with Adjustable Fuel Regulator, is like you are building a time bomb.

Instead of "having a chat with sifu", how much do you know about TURBOCHARGE system ? or Supercharge ? or any FI method ?

I did my own turbo system with my previous car. When I said "built my own", I literally mean it. From welding mandrel bend 3" exhaust starting from downpipe, to tuning the fuelmap at all RPM, and all Throttle % with WideBand O2 sensor.

Cheers

I can tell I have zero experience in how all the turbos would come together in the M43 and make it work. I do know the surface pieces of what how a turbo works. I was hoping someone who could point me to the right person to put together all the parts and make it work.

 

[ALBundy]

Ade, look for Ah Heng (0123811331) at USJ. He did the 4 to 1 header together with the necessary stainless piping for me, and it was superbly done. I then had the header ceramic coated. Previously did the thermal wrap thingy but found it messy.

You have to do some leg work, in getting used turbines and intercooler. As for blow-off valve, if you are on a budget just use the internal wastegate that comes with the turbo. However, I would recommend a piggyback ECU to ensure proper fueling and to optimise the performance.

Cheers

 

[turbology]

However, I would recommend a piggyback ECU to ensure proper fueling and to optimise the performance.

I thought BMW's ECU will readjust to fuel curve itself and that's why piggyback don't work well with Continental car?
From what I knew, to boost a M50/M43 engine well & reliable, will cost me about 20k. I guess I am wrong.

 

[McFir7]

What Albundy suggested : 4-to-1 exhuast manifold (aka header), used TD04 turbine and Unichip with 328 injectors, this is as cheap as you can get and safe too. I am not sure how "simple" you want but this is as simple as it gets.

With the low boost you are aiming, you can skip the intercooler and blow-off valve. But recomended the BOV installed to prolong your turbo.
Running with Adjustable Fuel Regulator, is like you are building a time bomb.

Instead of "having a chat with sifu", how much do you know about TURBOCHARGE system ? or Supercharge ? or any FI method ?

I did my own turbo system with my previous car. When I said "built my own", I literally mean it. From welding mandrel bend 3" exhaust starting from downpipe, to tuning the fuelmap at all RPM, and all Throttle % with WideBand O2 sensor.

Cheers

i know nuts bout this Forced Induction...can u guys give me some idea where to get the turbo header n whats the cost like?

bro what u mean by saying bout the adjustable fuel regulator?not reliable? i taught all turbo cars use that..

 

[ALBundy]

I thought BMW's ECU will readjust to fuel curve itself and that's why piggyback don't work well with Continental car?
From what I knew, to boost a M50/M43 engine well & reliable, will cost me about 20k. I guess I am wrong.

Gyfer I ran with an open loop. If under closed loop, the ecu would readjust itself under partial load and hence the piggyback ecu will only work under WOT.

 

[turbology]

Most, if not all, cars use fuel presure regulator.
And depend on your Intake Manifold Pressure, your fuel pressure in fuel rail increase and decrease depend on your throttle.
Example, at idle is 10psi(manifold in vacuum), and 20psi when WOT (no vacuum)
By increasing the fuel pressure, you can get more fuel into engine without increase the injectors size.

Here is the interesting part : alot of "self-acclaim" mechanics don't care or don't know how to adjust "fuel map". So increase your fuel pressure
with adjustable FPR(Fuel Pressure Regulator) is the EASIEST WAY to increase your fuel when you Forced Induction it.

Because adjustable FPR increase your fuel pressure LINEAR-ly, you will have WAY TOO RICH mixture before the turbo spool in.
Result, you get 1. white smoke, 2. fault spark plug, 3. clog CAT, 4. clog O2 sensors, 5. short lifespan Turbo, and etc bad things.

Will it work with my new TURBO + adjustable FPR? Yes. But how long?

 

[turbology]

note: Newer car with intank Fuel Pump might not using FPR anymore