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maxion89;820354 said:
After take out the camshaft, time to take out the cylinder head... 1 pic is the pic of exhaust... here gonna need lot of patient to remove the nut with small space... there to area can remove it... can remove one by one the nut on the exhaust or from down below just remove the nut at the exhaust that is only 6 nut if not mistake... pros and cons... easy and if you doing this your self you gonna need lot of strength to lift both cylinder head and the exhaust, i do this on the 2nd time remove the head...

Here the biggest mistake that I make... Yeah i break the camshaft... at took me so hard to look for the part... almost order it on the oversea, but lucky got it at penisular... I ask the bmw dealer here at Sabah, the dealer said Only for the intake camshaft will cost me Rm 2K - 3K then the exhaust Cam will cost around RM 3K - 4K +... what the hell... better i other engine!! but I dont give up look for it, until I get it in penisular used part dealer... both for only RM 500 and postage will total RM 590... Then here the project end of mine... The next story I send to workshop to do it for me.. This is because the Timing tool... I would like to buy it but its cost alot.. The cost of the timing tool are more than cost for the merch labor charge... So i leave it to the workshop...


So this the camshaft that I brought and the pic of my valve after cleaning it.... So chears guys.... ps: the risk is high to do it your self, but the feeling you cant describe it...

Hi Mate,

Great DIY ! You've got balls for doing the cylinder head job.

Why did you do it ? Were you having some problems?

On all the DIYs on google, youtube and the forums, they always emphasise that you need to put your cylinder 1 at TDC before reinstalling the cams and the heads. You cannot read all that and miss it. Since you were basically doing your work after reading diys....did you try to get the timing right ?

Didn't you say that you sent the car to a workshop after removing the head, because you didn't have the timing tools ? So does that mean that your old workshop screwed up the timing and not you? Then they should pay for the damage and repair labour, right ?

I got a question for you. How did you clean out your valves, and your cylinder head ? Did you diy or did you send it to a machine shop ? If you sent it to a machine shop, how much did they charge you per valve ? For skimming the cylinder head ?

If you diyed it, exactly how did you do it ? Did you need to buy any simple dremel tools and stuff like that ? Do you have pictures of this? :eek: If you diyed the valves and the head.

Thanks !

Roberto
 
anakin;823779 said:
I'll let you know how much for the postage...

Ok bro...thanks you very much bro...


Roberto;823807 said:
Hi Mate,

Great DIY ! You've got balls for doing the cylinder head job.

Why did you do it ? Were you having some problems?

On all the DIYs on google, youtube and the forums, they always emphasise that you need to put your cylinder 1 at TDC before reinstalling the cams and the heads. You cannot read all that and miss it. Since you were basically doing your work after reading diys....did you try to get the timing right ?

Didn't you say that you sent the car to a workshop after removing the head, because you didn't have the timing tools ? So does that mean that your old workshop screwed up the timing and not you? Then they should pay for the damage and repair labour, right ?

I got a question for you. How did you clean out your valves, and your cylinder head ? Did you diy or did you send it to a machine shop ? If you sent it to a machine shop, how much did they charge you per valve ? For skimming the cylinder head ?

If you diyed it, exactly how did you do it ? Did you need to buy any simple dremel tools and stuff like that ? Do you have pictures of this? :eek: If you diyed the valves and the head.

Thanks !

Roberto

Hi there bro... at 1st I do the DIY my self... That was after having an issues having an overheating problem, and my exhaust pipe got water split in it, non stop while running the engine...I google this type of issues before begin with the DIY project.. Then here the site that teach how to do so... For my problem, I need to do a Top Ovehaul or replace the Head Gasket... Here the site what I was talking about..

http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/101-Projects-17-Head-Gasket/101-Projects-17-Head-Gasket.htm

All the project been done before I send it to the workshop, and by that I do the DIY by myself... Or you can tell I do some experiment to learn more about car things... Because of funds problem I didnt send it to the workshop for the 1st place... So im doing it my self... Then made a mistake by breaking the camshaft... Then only by that, I send it to the workshop, after I had no Timing tools to do the camshaft timing, and the cost for the timing tools are more expensive than pay the Labor Charge to the Workshop...

Skim the head was done by the workshop, they told me the charges for the skimming head was RM 300.. But I dont have any receipt given by the workshop to proff it that the actual head skim charge... They could only say that...

That why I had a problem with trusting people... But I had to, because there is no other choice I had... Even with the Labor Charge only it cost me RM 1000, Total replace all things + labor cost me around RM 2.7K.... The workshop charge me for mistake they do, charge me the engine oil, because they see the oil mix with water and need to redo the oil changing. Not only that, when I was to get my car, I look there a water split from the water pump area... On the receipt given, they change the new water pump aswell and that doesn't look like they change it....

But lucky I saw it, then they replace the new water pump in front of my... The mech just said forgot to replace it.... That why I think I've been con....

Hope my experience could be share to all so you wont be the next victim like me... Better buy the Part your self dont let them buy it then charge you more than you buy it yourself :top:... Unless you know that workshop and trust them... I must said not all workshop will con people, maybe I just unlucky...

So Roberto, about your question for the valve cleaning. Cleaning the valve Im using an Engine Cleaner Spray Foam + Metal Brush, I didnt remove the valve 1 by 1 to clean it... Only using camshaft to do the cleaning process... You know, when you put the camshaft at its place, you can see the valve will open, and by that time you do the cleaning, turn the camshaft for the next valve to be open.. Do the process for both Intake and Exhaust camshaft.... You can use any Engine Cleaning Spray that could remove the oil and dirt... The link I gave you got show how to do it to...

:wink: Chears...
 
Good job bro keep it up hehehe...:top:
So did you clean all the carbon on valve seat and on the valve head?
 
Volvos525i;823900 said:
Good job bro keep it up hehehe...:top:
So did you clean all the carbon on valve seat and on the valve head?

Thanks bro... Not all I think, cause there some area that really hard to clean...
 
maxion89;823903 said:
Thanks bro... Not all I think, cause there some area that really hard to clean...

Yaa since the valve was not taken out so it is not easy to clean all...
Normally the cleaning was done using a grinding machine fix with barb wire brush...
 
Hi Bro Maxion,

Thank you for your reply thanks for taking the time.

Water out of your tailpipe means a cracked head. A bad headgasket (HG) cannot cause water to come out, bad HGs cannot be that bad. HG issues are basically you losing coolant at least 1 mark per week, and when bad, white steam out the tailpipe and you losing coolant pretty fast..maybe 1 mark every 2 days or faster (all this assumes daily driving at least 20kms per day). Also, after letting the car sit overnight after a drive, if you pull out the spark plugs, you'll smell coolant in one or more chambers, and might even see coolant there. Wont be much, if you spin the engine (i.e. crank the engine) with the plugs out in the morning, you'll get very little if any coolant flying out the holes.

However cracks in your cylinder head will cause water actual water to come out of your tailpipe. If you do the morning test as I describe above, you'll see alot more coolant in the chamber with the crack, seepage overnight will be high. Spinning the engine will cause this coolant to fly out and you'll know there's alot of fluid. Or you can even draw it out with a fishtank tube connected to a syringe.

Did you change your cylinder head ? Or just the headgasket ?

If you did not change your cylinder head, did you send your old head for a pressure test at a workshop to confirm there are no cracks ?

Do you have good closeup pictures of your old hg ? If not, can you remember how it looked like, were there any tears, any breaks, etc ?
 
Another question : how did you break your camshaft ? And is it a hollow pipe or a solid metal pipe ? Do you have pictures ? :)
 
Are you losing any coolant now ? Do you see any steam now ?

Do you have the M20 or M50 engine ? Thanks.

And yes, that workshop really ripped you off. And you have not answered my question. Did they screw up the cam timing for you? And if they did, did they take responsibility and pay for it ?

In fact, I think I get the big picture now as to what happened with your car. You said the cam timing was screwed up and you had to change the cylinder head ultimately. This was after you thought you had a HG issue, you took that out, then you sent the car with the head dissassembled to the workshop, they skimmed the head and reinstalled everything and sent it back to you. You later still had overheating and you thought your timing was bad, then you changed the cylinder head and everything is alright.

Actually what happened is that your old HG was ok, it was your cylinder head that was cracked. Changing the hg would not have made any difference to the car. The first workshop installed it with the correct timing. Timing is very easy to do if you have the tools and a little experience, and if the timing is off, the engine will run ROUGH it is manages to start at all so your engine was running ok when you got the car back so timing was no the problem.

The cylinder head was the problem. So after you got the car back, you still had overheating, thought you had some timing issues and the head had been screwed up, got a new head, did the job at a new workshop, and now your car is fine. Because the actual problem i.e. the crack in the cylinder head, had been eliminated.

Bro maxion89 please confirm if this makes sense to you, thanks.
 
maxion89;813222 said:
Now comes to glue process. I see there is more crack on the radiator tank. So I dont want its messed up again, so I glued all crack area.

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Let its dry then put back all together. Before install it back to the radiator, better do a leak test 1st. If there is a leak, repeat the glued process. If no then install it to the radiator. By using Gasket Silicone to make sure there is no leak and its tight.

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Total Cost = Below RM 30...

After put all together, I run the leak test again by let the engine run for awhile. So its been 2 weeks now. There is no problem with it. So Ill show the next DIY for my Instrument Cluster problem. Chears guys...



Hi Bro,

I love the way your innovate and think out of the box. We need that as we are the ones taking care of the cars not the workshops. Many workshops don't care.

Having said that, I don't think that patching the expansion tank like this is a good idea for the long haul, compared to buying a new expansion tank. The expansion tank cannot be strong just during normal operations, it must also be strong also during extended hard driving and overheats. There will be times when your engine might overheat for this or that reason (bad thermostat, bad fan clutch, busted water pump, burst coolant hose, etc) and during those times, the pressure in the cooling system is very high. Extended hard driving also generates higher system pressure. Everything in the cooling system must be able to take this higher pressure.

So while your solution is a good one in an emergency, I think its not a safe bet if you intend to keep the car for the next 10 years. If I were you, I would still go and get a new expansion tank with the 2 new O rings and put it in there. rm300 is not cheap, but we're talking a new expansion tank here. And you cannot sell the car with the expansion tank like it is.

An expansion tank will not go bust except after 10-15 years. And basically, the entire cooling system i.e radiator, radiator hose, radiator cap, bleed screw, water pump, thermostat, and main engine cooling hose (looks like an octopus's arms), engine coolant temperature sensor. plus chelating engine cooling passage flush (prestone super flush, cummin's restore plus), and fan clutch, should be changed once every ten years. It will cost money for sure but I think once every ten years is not a big deal at all, if you divide it as a cost per year and for the perfect peace of mind. Nobody ever buys a BM to save money. So its best to invest your money intelligently. And only buy oem for the radiator and fan clutch, everything else can be bought from reputed aftermarket wallahs..

By once every 10 years I mean once every 100k miles, or 160k km. And the waterpump's change interval is half of that. Usually a good idea to change the thermostat together with the wp because it is quite cheap. So when you do your cooling system overhaul, you will be on your second wp and thermostat.

Best part is that the whole cooling system can be DIYed. Its easy enough. Will take around 4-5 hours if you are relaxed. No complicated tools except for the fan clutch's 32 mm spanner. [ Good time to change engine belts, timing belts and timing bearings too as alot of the work is already done, but thats only if your mileage requires it, no need to waste money if not yet required.] And if you can make friends here and ask them to come help you, then treat them to a big BBQ or seafood, it can be done very quickly and easily.

The timing belt and bearings are also to be changed at the water pump and thermostat's intervals. The engine belts are at half of the water pump's interval. So when you do the whole cooling system overhaul, you should also take the opportunity to change the timing belt, bearings, confirm timing mark alignments. It should all come together neatly.

This is what I understand about the E34.

-Cooling system overhaul : Once every 100k miles, or 160k kms. This means radiator, upper and lower radiator hoses, main octopusian cooling hose, fan clutch, water pump, thermostat. Engine coolant temp sensor. Radiator flush with chelating agents that actually bind to and remove rust, don't bother with anything else (only two I've found, Prestone's super flush, and Cummin's restore plus). Switch to aluminium thermostat housing if yours is plastic, plastic housing tend to have microcracks which leak coolant and can burst at any time.
- Radiator flush and new coolant concentrate - 1/4 cooling system overhaul interval.
-Water pump, thermostat and timing belt and bearings : 1/2 cooling system interval. Only use water pumps with a composite impeller, this is not the same as metal, cast iron, aluminium, or plastic. If you use the BMW composite impeller pump **and the thermoplastic water pump pulley), change interval doubles to the same as the cooling system overhaul. The lighter pulley and lighter load due to the composite metal impeller allows the water pump's bearings to last much much longer.
-Engine belts (a/c, power steering, alternator belt) : 1/2 water pump interval, or 1/4 of cooling system interval.
-Spark plug cleaning : same as engine belts, or 1/4 cooling system interval. Only applies to iridium/platinum 4 claw plugs with non adjustable gaps. Clean with a clean toothbrush and carburetor cleaner. Don't clean with cloth or a wire brush, bad results.
-Spark plug replacement : same as cooling system. Only applies to iridium/platinum 4 claw plugs with non adjustable gaps. Bosch plugs are rated to last 100k miles. Even oem copper plugs have been known to go for much longer than 100k miles. NO NEED to change every 2 years. That's another workshop myth.
-Distributor cap, rotor and ignition leads (M20 and non ignition coil engines): Same as cooling system overhaul interval.
-Valve clearance adjustment and valve cover gasket change (M20 and non ignition coil engines) : same as belt change interval, or 1/4 cooling system overhaul interval. M50 engines don't have to do this as they have self adjusting valve lifters hee hee.
-Brake fluid : 1/4 cooling system overhaul.
-Brake calliper seals - same as cooling system overhaul, or whenever you experience uneven braking problems.
-P/s fluid and manual transmission fluid : 1/2 cooling system interval.
-Rear differential fluid : 1/2 cooling system interval (mineral oil), same as cooling system interval (semi/fully synthetic BMW, ZF or other brand oils).
Automatic transmission fluid : 1/2 cooling system overhaul for mineral oil, same as cooling system overhaul for semi/fully synthetic oil from ZF or Japan.
-Auto transmission filter : 1/2 cooling system interval, whether you are using mineral or semi/fully synthetic oil.
- Engine oil and filter : Once every 15k km (this is 1/10 of the cooling system overhaul interval). Only for fully synthetic motor oil from a solid company like Mobil1 etc. Don't change earlier, modern oils can actually go for 25k km (Mobil1 fully synthetic extended performance oil, but hard to find locally), so ignore what the mechanics tells you. If using mineral engine oil, change at half this interval. Change 20% earlier if you're driving something like only 5km each day, most of the time.
- Engine flush : Once every 2-4 engine oil change as per your preference, not less than once ever 4 oil changes. Only use solvents to flush, and the best solvent to use is diesel from a pump. 2 litres. Don't waste time with expensive products that only give you 250ml or 500ml of solution and cost much much more. Nothing special there even from Liqui Moly. Add 2 litres to the engine, idle the engine for 20 minutes (NO revving or driving), then drain the whole lot immediately and change oil and filter as per normal. Can also use kerosene, but switch to 50% volume compared to diesel as its more corrosive so you don't need as much. Any trace kerosene and diesel not drained out fully will be vaporised and expelled out during driving by the crankcase ventilation system.
- In-tank fuel injector cleaning : Once every oil change. Add 3 litres of diesel first, then fill up to full with 95/97 immediately, and then drive. Injectors will be cleaned out naturally over the full tank. No problem to injectors, engines, filters, etc. Can substitute with methanol, ethanol, distilled alcohol, rubbing alcohol, or kerosene, but use the same volume. Need not use it on an empty tank that's immediately filled up with normal petrol. But diesel is cheaper and more convenient so that's recommended.
- Shock absorbers, suspension bushings, shock absorber mounts, tie rods, ball joints, dogbones, trailing arm and subframe bushing : Inspect thoroughly once every 2 engine oil change. Replace only if necessary. PRE-LOAD WHENEVER THESE ARE REPLACED. If you need to replace, only use Meyle HD bushings and shock mounts, where possible. If not available, only use Lemforder. Don't bother with FCP, Ocap, or anything else. Only use Boge/Bilstein/Sachs absorbers.
- Springs : Don't need to be changed unless damaged in an accident, or you want to lower the car.
- Tyres : Must not be more than 5 years old. Must be changed whenever threadwear drops to 20%, or hits the wear indicators. Inspect at every oil change. Rotate at every 2 oil changes. Must be rated for 200kmh or above, if not it will overheat and rupture at that speed.
-Tyre Balancing : All 4 tyres need to be balanced, and not just two. The front two can be high-speed balanced, which needs to be repeated whenever you rotate the tyres. High speed balancing is not essential but is nice to have. :) Tyre balancing should be checked and redone at every rotation (since all 4 tyres are coming off anyway).
- Tyre wear : Must be checked at every oil change for uneven wear. Its a 5-10 minute job.
Alignment : Must be checked and done whenever uneven tyre wear is noticed, or whenever the car drifts too much on a straight road (some drifting is inevitable as no road is perfectly flat and perfectly straight).
- Tyre pressure - checked once every month, rated according to the factory specs on your driver's door. No significant benefit to nitrogen gas fillup, so don't bother with the expense.
Fuel filter - 1/3 cooling system interval.
Wheel bearings - Same as cooling system overhaul interval. Only use oem.
- Brake pads - whenever the brake pad light comes on. Don't need to change all 4 at one go, the rear will last twice as much as the front because the braking system is designed to send more braking force to the front wheels and less to the rear.
- Brake rotors - Check at every oil change. Also needs to be checked, skimmed or replaced immediately, whenever there's shuddering while braking, if there's no shudder but braking seems to be poor and your brake fluid is ok (which means the discs are too thin), and whenever scouring lines and grooves become too severe (this is through visual inspection and by running your fingers over the discs when cold). Tyre shop guys are pretty good at checking this for you.


That's about it. Sorry guys, raining here, and I got into a comfy mood... :)

Roberto
 
Volvos525i;823905 said:
Yaa since the valve was not taken out so it is not easy to clean all...
Normally the cleaning was done using a grinding machine fix with barb wire brush...

Yea bro, because I didn't have complete tool to do the cleaning... So had to use manually by using own hand to do it...

Roberto;823978 said:
Hi Bro Maxion,

Thank you for your reply thanks for taking the time.

Water out of your tailpipe means a cracked head. A bad headgasket (HG) cannot cause water to come out, bad HGs cannot be that bad. HG issues are basically you losing coolant at least 1 mark per week, and when bad, white steam out the tailpipe and you losing coolant pretty fast..maybe 1 mark every 2 days or faster (all this assumes daily driving at least 20kms per day). Also, after letting the car sit overnight after a drive, if you pull out the spark plugs, you'll smell coolant in one or more chambers, and might even see coolant there. Wont be much, if you spin the engine (i.e. crank the engine) with the plugs out in the morning, you'll get very little if any coolant flying out the holes.

However cracks in your cylinder head will cause water actual water to come out of your tailpipe. If you do the morning test as I describe above, you'll see alot more coolant in the chamber with the crack, seepage overnight will be high. Spinning the engine will cause this coolant to fly out and you'll know there's alot of fluid. Or you can even draw it out with a fishtank tube connected to a syringe.

Did you change your cylinder head ? Or just the headgasket ?

If you did not change your cylinder head, did you send your old head for a pressure test at a workshop to confirm there are no cracks ?

Do you have good closeup pictures of your old hg ? If not, can you remember how it looked like, were there any tears, any breaks, etc ?

Before the car break down I had an overheating problem... The problem can cause from the Thermostat, Bad water pump, Fan clutch or HG... I check the problem then found out I had a bad water pump and the fan clutch... But the fan clutch problem didnt cause so much for the overheating... About the things that you said for the head crack... I didnt know if there is a crack or not.. But I will follow your step by checking it later....

Last time what make me replace the HG cause, inside my expansion tank there is an engine oil mixing with the coolant.... Before I break the camshaft I had replace the HG and test it if there got any water split from the exhaust pipe or not... And theres no water plit from the exhaust pipe anymore....

"Did you change your cylinder head ? Or just the headgasket ?

If you did not change your cylinder head, did you send your old head for a pressure test at a workshop to confirm there are no cracks ?

Do you have good closeup pictures of your old hg ? If not, can you remember how it looked like, were there any tears, any breaks, etc ?"


I only replace the headgasket... I dunno if the workshop got do pressure test for the head or not... Because the workshop send the head to the engineering shop to do the head skim only... For my old HG i dun have picture of it.. But I still remember how its look like... There a crack from the small hole.. didnt know its a hole for the oil or coolant.... That why I replace the HG....

Roberto;823980 said:
Another question : how did you break your camshaft ? And is it a hollow pipe or a solid metal pipe ? Do you have pictures ? :)

Well I was careless didnt let the piston on the TDC... And I force to tight the cams then its break... At 1st I didnt know if it was break... then do the stupid things for the exhaust cams... so both exhaust and intake cams are break... for the material of the cams i dunno how to describe it... I think look like concrete, not metal... here the pic... View attachment 30164

Roberto;823983 said:
Are you losing any coolant now ? Do you see any steam now ?

Do you have the M20 or M50 engine ? Thanks.

And yes, that workshop really ripped you off. And you have not answered my question. Did they screw up the cam timing for you? And if they did, did they take responsibility and pay for it ?

In fact, I think I get the big picture now as to what happened with your car. You said the cam timing was screwed up and you had to change the cylinder head ultimately. This was after you thought you had a HG issue, you took that out, then you sent the car with the head dissassembled to the workshop, they skimmed the head and reinstalled everything and sent it back to you. You later still had overheating and you thought your timing was bad, then you changed the cylinder head and everything is alright.

Actually what happened is that your old HG was ok, it was your cylinder head that was cracked. Changing the hg would not have made any difference to the car. The first workshop installed it with the correct timing. Timing is very easy to do if you have the tools and a little experience, and if the timing is off, the engine will run ROUGH it is manages to start at all so your engine was running ok when you got the car back so timing was no the problem.

The cylinder head was the problem. So after you got the car back, you still had overheating, thought you had some timing issues and the head had been screwed up, got a new head, did the job at a new workshop, and now your car is fine. Because the actual problem i.e. the crack in the cylinder head, had been eliminated.

Bro maxion89 please confirm if this makes sense to you, thanks.

"Are you losing any coolant now ? Do you see any steam now ?

Do you have the M20 or M50 engine ? Thanks.

And yes, that workshop really ripped you off. And you have not answered my question. Did they screw up the cam timing for you? And if they did, did they take responsibility and pay for it ?"


Yes I lose my coolant, but I thought that was because of my expansion tank, still have some leak cause of the tank.. I will check it by follow your step when I had a time... My engine was M50... After send my car to the workshop everything is fine, timing has no problem... just need to replace other things such as the fan clutch... Using the car for 4 month after its been repaired, now the problem is the expansion tank and my instrument cluster...

"In fact, I think I get the big picture now as to what happened with your car. You said the cam timing was screwed up and you had to change the cylinder head ultimately. This was after you thought you had a HG issue, you took that out, then you sent the car with the head dissassembled to the workshop, they skimmed the head and reinstalled everything and sent it back to you. You later still had overheating and you thought your timing was bad, then you changed the cylinder head and everything is alright."


Actually I had no timing tool, so I send the car to the workshop to fix it... After that everything is fine I had no issues at all... The overheating problem start before I send it to the workshop.. Then I do the DIY to replace the HG, after I break the camshaft then I dont want take any risk to assemble it again... So i send it to the workshop to fix all for me...


Roberto;823986 said:
Hi Bro,

I love the way your innovate and think out of the box. We need that as we are the ones taking care of the cars not the workshops. Many workshops don't care.

Having said that, I don't think that patching the expansion tank like this is a good idea for the long haul, compared to buying a new expansion tank. The expansion tank cannot be strong just during normal operations, it must also be strong also during extended hard driving and overheats. There will be times when your engine might overheat for this or that reason (bad thermostat, bad fan clutch, busted water pump, burst coolant hose, etc) and during those times, the pressure in the cooling system is very high. Extended hard driving also generates higher system pressure. Everything in the cooling system must be able to take this higher pressure.

So while your solution is a good one in an emergency, I think its not a safe bet if you intend to keep the car for the next 10 years. If I were you, I would still go and get a new expansion tank with the 2 new O rings and put it in there. rm300 is not cheap, but we're talking a new expansion tank here. And you cannot sell the car with the expansion tank like it is.

An expansion tank will not go bust except after 10-15 years. And basically, the entire cooling system i.e radiator, radiator hose, radiator cap, bleed screw, water pump, thermostat, and main engine cooling hose (looks like an octopus's arms), engine coolant temperature sensor. plus chelating engine cooling passage flush (prestone super flush, cummin's restore plus), and fan clutch, should be changed once every ten years. It will cost money for sure but I think once every ten years is not a big deal at all, if you divide it as a cost per year and for the perfect peace of mind. Nobody ever buys a BM to save money. So its best to invest your money intelligently. And only buy oem for the radiator and fan clutch, everything else can be bought from reputed aftermarket wallahs..

By once every 10 years I mean once every 100k miles, or 160k km. And the waterpump's change interval is half of that. Usually a good idea to change the thermostat together with the wp because it is quite cheap. So when you do your cooling system overhaul, you will be on your second wp and thermostat.

Best part is that the whole cooling system can be DIYed. Its easy enough. Will take around 4-5 hours if you are relaxed. No complicated tools except for the fan clutch's 32 mm spanner. [ Good time to change engine belts, timing belts and timing bearings too as alot of the work is already done, but thats only if your mileage requires it, no need to waste money if not yet required.] And if you can make friends here and ask them to come help you, then treat them to a big BBQ or seafood, it can be done very quickly and easily.

The timing belt and bearings are also to be changed at the water pump and thermostat's intervals. The engine belts are at half of the water pump's interval. So when you do the whole cooling system overhaul, you should also take the opportunity to change the timing belt, bearings, confirm timing mark alignments. It should all come together neatly.

This is what I understand about the E34.

-Cooling system overhaul : Once every 100k miles, or 160k kms. This means radiator, upper and lower radiator hoses, main octopusian cooling hose, fan clutch, water pump, thermostat. Engine coolant temp sensor. Radiator flush with chelating agents that actually bind to and remove rust, don't bother with anything else (only two I've found, Prestone's super flush, and Cummin's restore plus). Switch to aluminium thermostat housing if yours is plastic, plastic housing tend to have microcracks which leak coolant and can burst at any time.
- Radiator flush and new coolant concentrate - 1/4 cooling system overhaul interval.
-Water pump, thermostat and timing belt and bearings : 1/2 cooling system interval. Only use water pumps with a composite impeller, this is not the same as metal, cast iron, aluminium, or plastic. If you use the BMW composite impeller pump **and the thermoplastic water pump pulley), change interval doubles to the same as the cooling system overhaul. The lighter pulley and lighter load due to the composite metal impeller allows the water pump's bearings to last much much longer.
-Engine belts (a/c, power steering, alternator belt) : 1/2 water pump interval, or 1/4 of cooling system interval.
-Spark plug cleaning : same as engine belts, or 1/4 cooling system interval. Only applies to iridium/platinum 4 claw plugs with non adjustable gaps. Clean with a clean toothbrush and carburetor cleaner. Don't clean with cloth or a wire brush, bad results.
-Spark plug replacement : same as cooling system. Only applies to iridium/platinum 4 claw plugs with non adjustable gaps. Bosch plugs are rated to last 100k miles. Even oem copper plugs have been known to go for much longer than 100k miles. NO NEED to change every 2 years. That's another workshop myth.
-Distributor cap, rotor and ignition leads (M20 and non ignition coil engines): Same as cooling system overhaul interval.
-Valve clearance adjustment and valve cover gasket change (M20 and non ignition coil engines) : same as belt change interval, or 1/4 cooling system overhaul interval. M50 engines don't have to do this as they have self adjusting valve lifters hee hee.
-Brake fluid : 1/4 cooling system overhaul.
-Brake calliper seals - same as cooling system overhaul, or whenever you experience uneven braking problems.
-P/s fluid and manual transmission fluid : 1/2 cooling system interval.
-Rear differential fluid : 1/2 cooling system interval (mineral oil), same as cooling system interval (semi/fully synthetic BMW, ZF or other brand oils).
Automatic transmission fluid : 1/2 cooling system overhaul for mineral oil, same as cooling system overhaul for semi/fully synthetic oil from ZF or Japan.
-Auto transmission filter : 1/2 cooling system interval, whether you are using mineral or semi/fully synthetic oil.
- Engine oil and filter : Once every 15k km (this is 1/10 of the cooling system overhaul interval). Only for fully synthetic motor oil from a solid company like Mobil1 etc. Don't change earlier, modern oils can actually go for 25k km (Mobil1 fully synthetic extended performance oil, but hard to find locally), so ignore what the mechanics tells you. If using mineral engine oil, change at half this interval. Change 20% earlier if you're driving something like only 5km each day, most of the time.
- Engine flush : Once every 2-4 engine oil change as per your preference, not less than once ever 4 oil changes. Only use solvents to flush, and the best solvent to use is diesel from a pump. 2 litres. Don't waste time with expensive products that only give you 250ml or 500ml of solution and cost much much more. Nothing special there even from Liqui Moly. Add 2 litres to the engine, idle the engine for 20 minutes (NO revving or driving), then drain the whole lot immediately and change oil and filter as per normal. Can also use kerosene, but switch to 50% volume compared to diesel as its more corrosive so you don't need as much. Any trace kerosene and diesel not drained out fully will be vaporised and expelled out during driving by the crankcase ventilation system.
- In-tank fuel injector cleaning : Once every oil change. Add 3 litres of diesel first, then fill up to full with 95/97 immediately, and then drive. Injectors will be cleaned out naturally over the full tank. No problem to injectors, engines, filters, etc. Can substitute with methanol, ethanol, distilled alcohol, rubbing alcohol, or kerosene, but use the same volume. Need not use it on an empty tank that's immediately filled up with normal petrol. But diesel is cheaper and more convenient so that's recommended.
- Shock absorbers, suspension bushings, shock absorber mounts, tie rods, ball joints, dogbones, trailing arm and subframe bushing : Inspect thoroughly once every 2 engine oil change. Replace only if necessary. PRE-LOAD WHENEVER THESE ARE REPLACED. If you need to replace, only use Meyle HD bushings and shock mounts, where possible. If not available, only use Lemforder. Don't bother with FCP, Ocap, or anything else. Only use Boge/Bilstein/Sachs absorbers.
- Springs : Don't need to be changed unless damaged in an accident, or you want to lower the car.
- Tyres : Must not be more than 5 years old. Must be changed whenever threadwear drops to 20%, or hits the wear indicators. Inspect at every oil change. Rotate at every 2 oil changes. Must be rated for 200kmh or above, if not it will overheat and rupture at that speed.
-Tyre Balancing : All 4 tyres need to be balanced, and not just two. The front two can be high-speed balanced, which needs to be repeated whenever you rotate the tyres. High speed balancing is not essential but is nice to have. :) Tyre balancing should be checked and redone at every rotation (since all 4 tyres are coming off anyway).
- Tyre wear : Must be checked at every oil change for uneven wear. Its a 5-10 minute job.
Alignment : Must be checked and done whenever uneven tyre wear is noticed, or whenever the car drifts too much on a straight road (some drifting is inevitable as no road is perfectly flat and perfectly straight).
- Tyre pressure - checked once every month, rated according to the factory specs on your driver's door. No significant benefit to nitrogen gas fillup, so don't bother with the expense.
Fuel filter - 1/3 cooling system interval.
Wheel bearings - Same as cooling system overhaul interval. Only use oem.
- Brake pads - whenever the brake pad light comes on. Don't need to change all 4 at one go, the rear will last twice as much as the front because the braking system is designed to send more braking force to the front wheels and less to the rear.
- Brake rotors - Check at every oil change. Also needs to be checked, skimmed or replaced immediately, whenever there's shuddering while braking, if there's no shudder but braking seems to be poor and your brake fluid is ok (which means the discs are too thin), and whenever scouring lines and grooves become too severe (this is through visual inspection and by running your fingers over the discs when cold). Tyre shop guys are pretty good at checking this for you.


That's about it. Sorry guys, raining here, and I got into a comfy mood... :)

Roberto

Wow bro roberto its a long fix a lot you got there.... But thanks to you btw for the tips.... Yup the diy seal the expansion tank, i do for temporary only... I found the used Radiator+Fan from Mudah.my and once again being get scam by the person I think... Until now I haven got my part.... Buy it last 2 week.... Like you said its worth it buy a new one rather than fix it or like I just did, buy a used one.... Then get scam.... chears bro....
 
So here the part 2 project after my Water Temperature Gauge on my last post... I said before im not install the gauge by follow the manual, by connecting the gauge to the ignition switch and light switch... Because dun want mess with the current wiring, so I make my own.... so here the sample....

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What you could said this was the 1st prototype... Single switch that turn on the gauge + gauge light....

Here the process of making it...

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Here im using plastic board... Same material as making car Plate Number... Dunno what name is it... This things is been throw up, so I pick it up to make something else... No need to waste money to buy it... But this my 1st try, I only found this and comes to my mind by using this plastic....

Using this material can get disadvantage without tools.... Here I show you what I mean....

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Im only using mini handsaw (Cut Metal).... Then when I cut more deeper It cannot fit in... So I buy the bigger handsaw... And still cannot be done because of the Slow cut and use lot of energy.... here what its look like after I measure all things then cut the shape...

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Yup I made a mistake there... Then when I try to fix it, I break the board.... 1st try...FAil...
 
So here comes 2nd try....

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So here I made from a new board, then improvise the cutting by buy a electric jigsaw.... Then make the measurement again.... Try it before get to the next step.... Its perfectly fit but got some mess up at the corner side... But that ok.... So what next? hah... Making a hole...

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There a small crack you saw there... But it can be fix, I only use the paper tape to joint it... That not the problem because I had something can cover it.... here it is...

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By using Black Gloss Sticker to cover the look of the blue board.... Well that it, all done... But there still not yet 100%, only 50%... Ill show you the next add on... Coming Soon...

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Chears....:burnout: Just a hobby of mine.... Oh forgot to tell... The material can use by other as well such as aluminum, steel, plywood etc... This plastic board can easily break, use plywood much better.. the thin one... chears again... :burnout:
 
Whats up guys... So now the part 2 for the switch plate that I just do last time... Now add something to the plate....
So here it is... I can see from my last switch plate, even me see it not that nice... But even ugly women when its come to make up she can be prettier.. So I add some make up to my previous switch plate...

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There it is... I want to add the 3-in-1 Car Adapter with USB port to it...

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After make a hole using drill, I use stone grind to make the surface clean and clear...
Now comes to the adapter hole...

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Its been hard for me by doing this... Without complete tool I do what comes to my mind only... And need to use carver to do the work for some area...

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Now its done.. And perfectly fit for the adapter and switch.. The switch if for the on/off the adapter.. So it will not always turn on, since I plug my car mp3 modulator there...
But the look still no good looking... So I add some make up powder (just metaphor not real make up powder)

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So here the make up powder.. Add a CF sticker on it, replace the previous one Black gloss sticker... Now comes to the wiring part...

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Im using the electronic wire clump so it will easy for me to do the wiring in the future... Now its the final part.. Test it...

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Well that it... more DIY coming soon... Chears...
 
Bro Moxion89, i have got a small request. You see i have 3 items in my car that i want to put it neatly. They are the screen for the front camera, the GPS and the Ipod. Now i have all these items on 3 different areas in the car. Which i think is ugly and not neat. Therefore i would like to ask your expertise where would be the ideal spot for these items. So that they can be together in one neat place. The GPS i think should be frontal, so that when looking for guidance, it is easier to keep track of the GPS and the road at the same time. Wondering whether on the cluster panel above the dashboard right infront of you. But they should all be together. Well bro can you suggest some ideas pls. Thanks in advance. :cheers:
 
smike;825512 said:
Bro Moxion89, i have got a small request. You see i have 3 items in my car that i want to put it neatly. They are the screen for the front camera, the GPS and the Ipod. Now i have all these items on 3 different areas in the car. Which i think is ugly and not neat. Therefore i would like to ask your expertise where would be the ideal spot for these items. So that they can be together in one neat place. The GPS i think should be frontal, so that when looking for guidance, it is easier to keep track of the GPS and the road at the same time. Wondering whether on the cluster panel above the dashboard right infront of you. But they should all be together. Well bro can you suggest some ideas pls. Thanks in advance. :cheers:

Well bro im not that expert, but sure share some ideas to you will be pleasure.... If you dont mind can you take picture of the 3 item of yours... But take it all together... Let me see the item size and where it should be perfectly put... If possible snap on the front and upper view of the item... Chears...
 
maxion89;825615 said:
Well bro im not that expert, but sure share some ideas to you will be pleasure.... If you dont mind can you take picture of the 3 item of yours... But take it all together... Let me see the item size and where it should be perfectly put... If possible snap on the front and upper view of the item... Chears...

Ok bro will do that. Just read. Will get it over to you tomorrow. :cheers:
 
Hey guys, so after been scam from mudah seller. Finally I found my radiator from Sabah BMW used part dealer. Its taken from E39 but fits to E34. Here the pic.

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There a different from my current Radiator, I see the place for the Temp switch and add a new water level switch I guess.

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You could see the different for my current radiator with a new one ( used ).

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Here the different for the temp switch. My switch plug is different, the E39 is newer.

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Well had to do some DIY for the mounting. Use cable tie, I had no time to adjust it. And the radiator clip is missing. Need to get a new one. Well for my next project I think wanna go for engine bay cleaning. When I see my engine bay, its so dirty like been to rally race. So chears guys. :rock:
 
Bro, sorry still owe you the shots i suppose to get over to you. Been busy and getting back late. Will try next week. Cheers.
 
smike;830719 said:
Bro, sorry still owe you the shots i suppose to get over to you. Been busy and getting back late. Will try next week. Cheers.

Sure bro no rush... Hehehe... If you cant take a shot all of them in together... Just give me a shot of your dashboard where your current 3 item been put.. That sure be easy for you... Chears.. :rock:
 
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