Delayed action power windows

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Hi, am a newbie here. Recently bought a used X3 (2004 model) in Melaka, and am generally happy with the overall performance after servicing at local non-BMW center. Except .............. power windows requires 10-15sec to respond after press switch. Earlier, car was not used (battery dead) for about 2 months.Any suggestions? Thanks for your views.
 
manatwork2009;425777 said:
Hi, am a newbie here. Recently bought a used X3 (2004 model) in Melaka, and am generally happy with the overall performance after servicing at local non-BMW center. Except .............. power windows requires 10-15sec to respond after press switch. Earlier, car was not used (battery dead) for about 2 months.
Any suggestions? Thanks for your views.

don't know how the x3 works but if the window is up,try to press and hold the up switch for 30 secs and do the same when the window is down.gud lak
 
According to BMW WDS Information.

Power windows (window regulator) (FH)
The power windows are controlled by the general module 5.

The power windows are operated via pull/push switches.

On the E83, a door module is fitted in the driver's door; it incorporates switches that can be used to operate all the power windows of the vehicle. The door module has its own voltage supply. Communication with the general module 5 takes place across the LIN bus.

Power window switch
Operation
The switches feature two switching stages in each operating direction.

The first stage is used for conventional power window operation, i.e. provided the window power-window motor is not blocked, it is activated for as long as the switch is pressed or pulled.

The one-touch function is activated when the second stage of the switch is operated (overpressed) and then released. The corresponding window regulator is then activated until the corresponding end position is reached. The one-touch function can be interrupted at any time by pressing the switch again in any direction.

The one-touch function is active as from terminal R in country-specific versions in which the ”jamming protection” and ”one-touch close” functions are not coded.

The power window switch features 2 contacts, the positions of which correspond to all switch operating statuses (coded switches). Conventional operation is signalled by the 2 contacts ”OPEN” and ”CLOSE”. The one-touch function is signalled when ”OPEN” and ”CLOSE” are both active simultaneously. The direction of the one-touch function is determined by which of the two signals is activated first.

Note:


If the general module detects both signals within 5 milliseconds (only possible as the result of misuse - e.g. switch impact), it can no longer differentiate the direction and therefore does not activate the corresponding window regulator.

The one-touch function activated at the rear power windows is interrupted if the child safety lock is pressed.

Even if the child safety lock is activated, the rear windows can still be opened with the rear switches in crash mode, i.e. when the crash sensors have been triggered.

Window lowering on the E46 Coupé, E52 Z8 and E85 Z4

Function
For window lowering, the window is automatically lowered a few centimetres after the door is opened. The window is closed again after the door is closed.

A requirement for this function is that the window is fully closed before the door is opened. The position of the open window glass cannot be changed.

Power window motor

Motor end cutout
The end cutout of the motors takes place on the basis of current measurement. After exceeding a maximum current which was recorded and stored as a reference during the initial opening and closing phase (”breakaway phase”), the relevant end position is assumed and the motor is switched off.

Anti-repeat circuit
To prevent the power-window motor from overheating, each motor features its own repeat lock-out. The repeat lock-out is activated when the motor is permanently operated for one minute.


Malfunctions
Operation of the power windows is always deactivated (limited) after 8 seconds in order to switch off the relevant motor, e.g. when no blocking signal is sent or in case of defect in the mechanical system.

The one-touch function in the close direction as well as convenience locking are no longer enabled in the event of implausible values from the jamming protection sensor (permanently pressed, shorted or interrupted). The window can then only be closed in the second switch position.

Relay activation

The relays for activation of the power-window motors are located in the general module V. A defective relay is detected in the general module and stored as a fault in the fault code memory.

Anti-trapping protection
Anti-trapping strip
Anti-trapping strips are fitted in the upper area of all door window frames on the Saloon, Touring and Coupé. A strip consists of 2 contact strips moulded in plastic which provide an electrically conductive connection when pressure is applied.

If pressure is applied to the finger-trap protection strip while closing the window, the closing function is interrupted and the window is driven in open direction for approx. 1 - 2 seconds.

The finger-trap protection function is NOT active when the switch is overpressed (one-touch function but permanently pressed).


Integrated anti-trapping protection
On the E46 Convertible and Compact (as of 09/2003) and E83, the anti-trapping protection is integrated in the individual power-window motors.

Important

Following repair work on individual power-window motors, standardization is required to activate the anti-trapping protection.

Standardization

Standardization runs when the corresponding window is opened completely first of all. The window is then closed by means of sustained actuation of the corresponding power window switch in stage 2. When the end position is reached, the switch must be kept pressed in switch stage 2 for approx. 1 more second.

Convenience opening/closing
Function
Provided terminal ”R” is switched off, the windows as well as the sunroof can be opened and closed via the lock cylinders in the driver's and passenger's doors or via the remote control with the ”radio remote control” option (NO lock cylinder fitted in passenger's door).

Convenience opening takes place when the lock cylinder is held in the ”unlock” position for longer than 3 seconds or when the appropriate button on the remote control is pressed for the opening duration. If the sequence is interrupted (key or remote control button released), the convenience opening function can be resumed with the key or button within 2 seconds.

Convenience closing takes place when the lock cylinder is held in the ”lock” position for longer than 2 seconds or when the appropriate button on the remote control is pressed for the closing duration. The finger-trap protection strip is active during convenience locking.

An active instruction ”convenience opening” or ”convenience closing” is terminated after 110 seconds at the latest, e.g. switch snagged.

Convenience opening and closing are separate functions and can be coded individually or together depending on the country variant.


In the case of the automatic convertible top, the windows are lowered when the ”open convertible top” button is pressed. If the button is not released, the window opening function is stopped after 1.5 seconds.

After closing the convertible top the windows are closed by pressing the button once more. For this purpose, the convertible top control module (CVM) sends the ”close window” instruction to the body electronics control module.

The closing procedure is stopped if the signal is no longer sent or inhibit current is detected.
 
According to the Info, is your anti repeat circuit is in activation.

This can happened if one of your power window switch is faulty or jammed up.
 
Jarance, thank you for the very comprehensive info on the standard operations of the power windows. Looks like a visit to AB workshop is inevitable.
 
manatwork2009;425807 said:
Jarance, thank you for the very comprehensive info on the standard operations of the power windows. Looks like a visit to AB workshop is inevitable.

I think that is advisable.
 
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