Continental CSC5P - Front & Rear Axle Specific Tyres

[t2ribena]

Something to share...As I was looking for replacement tyres for my car, and looking forward to try other tyres than the PS2 which is a great tyre but the shoulder wear on these tyres are less desirable...while PSS do not have any sizes for my car (maybe yet)...as I was shopping around, I come across Bridgestone S001 and Continental CSC5P...not a fan of Bridgestone's so did some research on the CSC5P and one particular specification that attracts me if the specific axle fitment feature, or as we know tyre for staggered setup...went ahead to get the tyres and found these...

i place an approximate straight line on the photo to have a reference on the tyre thread pattern and its clear that the one on the right is designed for rear axle fitment only coz those pattern won't work on the front...the tyre thread was already "camber" tuned to maximize the contact patch and the middle section "sink in" also for maximizing traction during high speed rotation as we know that when a tyre is spinning at high speed the center tends to bulge out due to the centrifugal force acting on the tyre itself and is especially worse in tyres which is wider...I'm in love with this details already...hehehe....here is the close up...

the fronts are what we find generally...so nothing special on the thread to the naked eye...looking forward to test the tyres as I have not fitted it yet hoping to ravage the current tyre to bits on the track (if any)...:wink: until then it is sitting in the store room...hehe

 

[bmw7833]

Awesome design..Does the tyre shop realize the exist of this special design too?

 

[dzuljazz2001]

Good observation T2. I hv been on CSC5 for abt 2yrs and yes its good. Not noisy and grips well at high speed corner :top:

Had the rear changed once after running abt 40K :frown: and the front was also recently changed when I busted it over a pothole :frown: ....

btw bro, whts the Treadwear marking on this 285/35 size?

 

[astroboy]

Keep the office aircond runing 24 hour a day to ensure minimal aging of the rubber.. :4:

 

[aidilj]

This calls for a track day.. :burnout:

 

[t2ribena]

i dont think they do coz when i ask mostly dunno what i'm talking about...cant blame them coz they dont have stock for these so i have to order it...luckily Conti Malaysia stock them in their warehouse...

Awesome design..Does the tyre shop realize the exist of this special design too?

 

[t2ribena]

40k km for ur massive torque D is very good ler...my ps2 only lasted 15k km so far...with another 2k km max to go i think...or one session on the track...hhehehe

Good observation T2. I hv been on CSC5 for abt 2yrs and yes its good. Not noisy and grips well at high speed corner :top:

Had the rear changed once after running abt 40K :frown: and the front was also recently changed when I busted it over a pothole :frown: ....

btw bro, whts the Treadwear marking on this 285/35 size?

 

[dzuljazz2001]

40k km for ur massive torque D is very good ler...my ps2 only lasted 15k km so far...with another 2k km max to go i think...or one session on the track...hhehehe

....:4: sorry for the typo bro T2, its 14+K and not 40K :4: ...... too tired to noticed the typo error .. fasting month worr ...and its terribly hot here in Kuantan today :frown: .....

 

[XXX]

Are you sure its not a tyre defect and that it is out of shape....hehehehhehe...

 

[kolamp]

I noticed too about the 'slope' and just thought they're trying to get maximum contact between tires & road surface....now I know the function of it....either way, its a good all-rounder tires liked it very much....only dislike the price heheheh

 

[astroboy]

So what's the preferred camber degree?

 

[t2ribena]

3 degree? :burnout:

So what's the preferred camber degree?

 

[ALBundy]

Actually Goodyear assymetrical also has similar design for the rear tires with dual center ribs for high speed stability.

Tire wear rate for the 5P is 240 for rear and 280 for front if I remember correctly. This is the only weakness compared to PSS which has a wear rate of 300.

There is a difference between csc5 and csc5p. 5p has dual compound where the outer block is made with 'racing proven' compound.

 

[ALBundy]

3 degree? :burnout:

Your tires will be gone in less than 10000km.

 

[t2ribena]

i dont drive sideways so should be better than 10k km right...

not so crazy to run on 3degree...max 1.50

Your tires will be gone in less than 10000km.

 

[ALBundy]

-2 is about right, with a slight toe in.

-1.5 would be a little over steery, especially with 500++hp.

 

[t2ribena]

a little over steery is good considering the car understeer alot....

-2 is about right, with a slight toe in.

-1.5 would be a little over steery, especially with 500++hp.

 

[autobotross]

Recently changed to vredestein ultrac sessanta. Before this was using ps2 summer. All I can say is; vredestein is brilliant (not far behind michelin standard) Love the agressive look on 5er. Although they had "rain tread pattern", handling and braking in dry are also brilliant. Treadwear 280 traction AA temp A. And they are cheaper!

The truth is I was looking for CSC5 or CSC5p. So I did a lot of research. Also read a review in a magazine. They rate csc5 better than csc5p. Csc5p are noisier. So, I was looking forward to csc5. But then out of no where csc3 and csc5 were not available on market. Had to wait until end of July for fresh batch. I don't think my winter tires can hold on that long anymore so I decided to try vredestein.

So far the ride is comfortable and handling in rain is like a boss. Will update how long can they last. Up to now is already 1500km.

 

[ALBundy]

a little over steery is good considering the car understeer alot....

Increase front end grip la, then overall grip level would be higher. Having lesser grip at the rear is not a good thing especially when you are heavy footed

 

[t2ribena]

increase front end grip? either increasing the tyre width or add spacer...both also don't like ler... any other way?

the factory camber spec for rear is 1.50 and toe in 0.14...so far so good...not tail happy just that the front end lacks grip...

Increase front end grip la, then overall grip level would be higher. Having lesser grip at the rear is not a good thing especially when you are heavy footed