The 2011 BMW 535i Put on the Dyno

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It is a good thing that BMW has begun to take it’s models for dyno tests in order to clearly know how they stand in terms of power. But because of the fact that they have limitations by the car manufacturer, more people are wanting to know the real potential of their vehicles, and this is the case of the 2011 BMW 535i that went on the dyno at MD Automotive Dynojet.
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Featuring a new 3-litre V6 engine with Valvetronic technology and direct injection, together with a eight speed auto gearbox, the 2011 BMW 535i is said (by BMW itself) to be sporting 300 hp and 300 lb/ft of torque.
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2011 BMW 535i DynoWell, it seems that the dyno results are in and they look a bit surpsising, as the 2011 BMW 535i only got 277 hp and 283 lb/ft of torque. But this could be attributed to the losses because of the drivetrain, so when one would think about it, the numbers which BMW gave aren’t really that far fetched.
 
3 litre V6???? that's new.... BMW didn't make any V6 for at least 40 year, don't think they ever had a V6 engine...
 
From the graph, is that mean 135i has more torque & HP than 535i ?
Is 135i more efficient in weight to power ratio ?
Is 135i single turboed?
 
wan520i;556725 said:
From the graph, is that mean 135i has more torque & HP than 535i ?
Is 135i more efficient in weight to power ratio ?
Is 135i single turboed?

135i - N54 TT
 
It's not even the same engine or gearbox.

535i is single turbo with 8-speed gearbox.
135i is twin turbo with 6-speed gearbox.
 
paultantk;556784 said:
It's not even the same engine or gearbox.

535i is single turbo with 8-speed gearbox.
135i is twin turbo with 6-speed gearbox.

Hear hear. :beer:
 
I thought the F10 535i was a 3.0 Ltr twin turbo? Honestly, not at all impressed by the dyno results. Not much better than E39 or E60 530i
 
Realred78;556808 said:
I thought the F10 535i was a 3.0 Ltr twin turbo? Honestly, not at all impressed by the dyno results. Not much better than E39 or E60 530i

fren, i think u misunderstood the diff between power measured at the wheel and flywheel...the F10 535i produced 277hp at the wheel from the dyno and for a stock e39 530i with M54 engine has around 228bhp (on flywheel) and in my opinion of you put it on dyno factoring in the drivetrain loss, you will get around 190hp (very generous estimation) on wheel...

so 277hp vs 190hp....not much better?
 
t2ribena;556856 said:
fren, i think u misunderstood the diff between power measured at the wheel and flywheel...the F10 535i produced 277hp at the wheel from the dyno and for a stock e39 530i with M54 engine has around 228bhp (on flywheel) and in my opinion of you put it on dyno factoring in the drivetrain loss, you will get around 190hp (very generous estimation) on wheel...

so 277hp vs 190hp....not much better?

yaa...277whp is better than 300hp. i think with current gbox technology, u take about 10-15% loss, so its actually pretty good. BMW must have understated the figures, in case kena sue in US. hehe.

the single turbo will be much easier to get more power, so lets see what the aftermarket world can do. :love::love:
 
BlackE90;556689 said:
Featuring a new 3-litre V6 engine with Valvetronic technology and direct injection, together with a eight speed auto gearbox, the 2011 BMW 535i is said (by BMW itself) to be sporting 300 hp and 300 lb/ft of torque.

err.. how much is 300 lb/ft in Nm?
 
deep3102;556932 said:
approx. 406.74 Nm bro..

hmmm.. i was expecting it to be more considering the sticker price. looks like me certainly going oil-burner if ever i buy new. thanks deep..
 
The 135i uses the N54 which is a twinturbo non-Valvetronic inline-6.

The new 535i uses the new N55 inline-6 which employs Valvetronic combined with a single turbo setup.Plus the new 5 uses BMW's latest 8-speed auto.

So 277whp is what we expect to see from a dyno run..in fact,if u factor in a 15% tranny etc loss,u'll find that the 535i makes around 325bhp.
 
The F10 535i has the N55 with a single twin-scroll turbo, same with the LCI E92.

Lifted from this page:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/01/02/twin-scroll-turbo-system-design-explained/

Twin-scroll turbo system design addresses many of the shortcomings of single-scroll turbo systems by separating those cylinders whose exhaust gas pulses interfere with each other. Similar in concept to pairing cylinders on race headers for normally aspirated engines, twin-scroll design pairs cylinders to one side of the turbine inlet such that the kinetic energy from the exhaust gases is recovered more efficiently by the turbine. For example, if a four-cylinder engine’s firing sequence is 1-3-4-2, cylinder 1 is ending its expansion stroke and opening its exhaust valves while cylinder 2 still has its exhaust valves open (while in its overlap period, where both the intake and exhaust valves are partially open at the same time). In a single-scroll or undivided manifold, the exhaust gas pressure pulse from cylinder 1 is therefore going to interfere with cylinder 2’s ability to expel its exhaust gases, rather than delivering it undisturbed to the turbo’s turbine the way a twin-scroll system allows.

The result of the superior scavenging effect from a twin-scroll design is better pressure distribution in the exhaust ports and more efficient delivery of exhaust gas energy to the turbocharger’s turbine. This in turn allows greater valve overlap, resulting in an improved quality and quantity of the air charge entering each cylinder. In fact, with more valve overlap, the scavenging effect of the exhaust flow can literally draw more air in on the intake side while drawing out the last of the low-pressure exhaust gases, helping pack each cylinder with a denser and purer air charge. And as we all know, a denser and purer air charge means stronger combustion and more power, and more power is good!

But the benefits of twin-scroll design don’t end there. With its greater volumetric efficiency and stronger scavenging effect, higher ignition delay can be used, which helps keep peak temperature in the cylinders down. Since cooler cylinder temperatures and lower exhaust gas temperatures allows for a leaner air/fuel ratio, twin-scroll turbo design has been shown to increase turbine efficiency by 7-8 percent and result in fuel efficiency improvements as high as 5 percent.
 


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