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Can someone enlighten me? I always come across this term "overhaul"... i do know a little but not really sure what is actually done to our engines or even gear box? When is the right time for this.. ? Also what is "Top Overhaul"... whats the diff actually...? Sometimes its called re-build i guess, usually for gear box'es... same? Will the engine loose its original/optimum compression level after an overhaul..? any pro's & con's?tq for feedback...:top:
 
Not really new project la... just curious as i get so many versions from various mechanics.. so better to get clarification here from the experienced...

When my car reach 10 years, which was 2 years ago... i had nothing better to do, so ask my mech to open up engine for some cleaning... only changed all 6 con-rods, as 2 were slightly bengkok and did all the cleaning process... since then engine has been very quiet and smooth.. so is that considered an overhaul??
 
Overhaul:
An engine overhaul means putting the engine back to factory specifications. This generally involves new piston rings, bearings and gaskets. When done by a competent engine builder the engine will perform as new.
A top overhaul only covers the replacement of components inside the cylinder head without removing the engine from the vehicle, such as valve and rocker arm replacement. A full overhaul however covers the whole engine component replacement which requires the engine to be removed from the vehicle, such as replacing the connecting rods and crankshaft bearings. By comparison, a full overhaul service costs more than a top overhaul service.

Rebuild:
Rebuild is a marketing term with no fixed definition. It is often taken to mean a professional overhaul with certain parts replaced with new units whether needed or not. For example some rebuilders will always replace the pistons (which often are not replaced during an overhaul unless damaged).

Re-manufacture:
Re-manufactured is a marketing term to mean an engine put together to match factory specifications e.g. "as new". Although often a buyer may take this to mean all-new parts are used, this is never the case. At the very least, the cylinder block will be used, as may most other parts. High-quality rebuilds will often include new pistons and line-boring of the crankshaft and camshaft bores.

Blueprinting:

In engine blueprinting, all the specifications are double-checked. Usually this indicates closer-than-factory tolerances, with custom specifications appropriate for a street car or a race car. The goals usually are to:
  • Ensure the engine puts out the rated power (because not all mass-production engines put out the rated power) for its manufacturer's design
or
  • Make more power out of a given engine design, by extra careful measurement and assembly
  • balancing of reciprocating parts and rotating assemblies, to reduce engine vibrations thus achieving more power due to recover of power "lost" to vibrations
Ideally, blueprinting is performed on components removed from the production line before normal balancing and finishing. If finished components are blueprinted, there is the risk that the further removal of material will weaken the component. However, lightening components is generally an advantage in itself provided balance and adequate strength are both maintained, and more precise machining will in general strengthen a part by removing stress points, so in many cases performance tuners are able to work with finished components.
For example, an engine manufacturer may list a piston ring end-gap specification of 0.003 to 0.005 inches for general use in a consumer automobile application. For an endurance racing engine which runs hot, a "blueprinted" specification of 0.00045 to 0.00050 may be desired. For a drag-racing engine which runs only in short bursts, a tighter 0.00035 to .00040 inch tolerance may be used instead. Thus "Blueprint" can mean tighter or looser clearances, depending on the goal.
 
Q. What is compression in an engine, and how does it work?

A. Compression is a process in which air or an air/fuel mixture is confined and pressed into a smaller volume within the area of an engine's cylinder. This process forces all of the molecules to be "pressed" together under high pressure.
In the case of a gasoline engine, moderate compression is required, 140 to 160 pounds per square inch (psi). Some engines may require as much as 220 psi depending on their size and application; the manufacturer gives specific compression specifications. If the compression in a gasoline engine is too high, it can cause a problem known as preignition or detonation. This can be very destructive, causing damage to the internal parts of the engine. However, a diesel engine requires very high compression, usually 350 psi or more because it relies on this compression process to ignite the diesel oil. Diesel engines are much heavier and louder compared to the gasoline engine. This compression process, combined with an air/fuel mixture and a source of ignition, is what produces the necessary power to operate vehicles of all types.

Q. When should the compression be checked on a vehicle?

A. Generally speaking, the compression should be checked in any instance when an engine is running roughly or is lacking power. Most manufacturers and technicians believe it is important to perform a compression test every time a tune-up is done as part of preventative maintenance; consult your vehicle owner's manual for tune-up intervals. By performing a compression test, internal engine malfunctions, such as bad valves, piston rings or excessive carbon buildup, can be detected before they cause irreparable damage. It benefits the owner to be aware of these problems so they can make an informed decision whether to invest in repairs or sell the vehicle.

Q. How is the engine compression checked?

A. Engine compression is checked in different ways for different vehicles. In this section, it will only cover the general information required for testing a gasoline engine. Diesel engines require specialized equipment and will not be covered here.
Compression on a gasoline engine can be tested in two ways. The first method involves using a manual, handheld compression gauge.

  • Make sure the engine has been warmed up before beginning the test, to ensure that the oil has been warmed up. A cold engine will not test correctly.
  • Disable the ignition module or coil.
  • Insert the compression tester into one cylinder spark plug hole at a time.
  • Hold the throttle to full open position to ensure the engine gets adequate air intake.
  • Crank the engine continually for at least five to 10 full revolutions to obtain an accurate reading on the compression tester.
  • Record the reading for each cylinder. If any of them vary 10 percent or more from each other a problem may exist in one or more cylinders. If the variance is greater than 10 percent, specialized testing equipment may be required to fully diagnose the problem.
  • If all cylinder readings are within 10 percent of each other, no further testing is required and compression is considered optimal.
The second method of testing involves the use of an electronic engine analyzer. The analyzer 'shorts' one cylinder at a time with the engine running and calculates the rpm drop. Once all cylinders are measured, a reading is given that will show which cylinders are working the hardest (have the most compression) and which are working the least (have the least compression). For the do-it-yourselfers, the easiest method is the manual compression test.

Q. What if thecompression is too low or too high?

A. If the compression results are too high or too low, you might consider consulting a professional technician. Modern vehicles are complicated to test and I have witnessed disastrous outcomes when a Do-It-Yourselfer has attempted this test. If however, you are fearless in your endeavor to diagnose the problem, then use the following techniques.
Consecutive low compression in all cylinders could mean that the problem of fuel washed cylinders exists. This means that the engine has had too much fuel introduced into it and all of the oil has been washed off the cylinder walls. The oil creates a sealing effect between the piston and ring assemblies and the cylinder walls of the engine block. Without this thin layer of oil, the engine compression would be allowed to escape into the crankcase. This is common with an engine that has a 'flooding' problem.
If the engine seems to run normally but is weak and puffs a small amount of bluish smoke, it could be an indicator of worn piston rings and cylinder walls. In either of these events, use a small oil can and squirt a little oil into each cylinder, then repeat the compression test. If the compression dramatically increases then you have found the problem(s). If the compression readings do not change, then it would indicate a timing problem between the camshaft(s) and the crankshaft of the engine. The timing chain or belt would need to be checked for proper timing.
If you find the compression reading is very low or zero in one cylinder, it is highly probable that internal engine damage exists such as:

  • The piston could have a broken connecting rod or a hole in it.
  • A valve could be stuck or leaking.
  • There could be a broken valve spring or a bent push rod.
  • The camshaft has excessive wear and is not opening the valve(s).
  • If the compression is low or zero on two adjacent cylinders, it would indicate:
  • There is a 'blown' or weak sealing surface at the head to block mounting area, which basically means a bad head gasket.
  • The camshaft is broken in an area that operates valves for two adjacent cylinders.
When the compression is found to be too high in one or more cylinders, this would be an indication of excessive carbon buildup in the engine. It can only be corrected by performing a chemical de-carbonizing process on the engine or by remo
ving the cylinder head(s) and physically removing the carbon that is attached to the cylinder portion of the head(s) and the tops of the pistons.
 
sachseelan;395615 said:
tq brother... any news from Jeff...?? shall we go see him tomolo..??

finance(HQ) has contacted Chuc and Friday they have verified with his office as well. i guess tomorrow we should get an answer else we go stalk him
 
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