New rims rubbing against fenders.. what to do?

[saprozeldo]

How much the labor, bro?

paid rm180, believe could have been rm150 if i negotiate but since am happy with the outcome, did not even negotiate..

interesting to note that while ah loon claim he has rolled d fenders of almost 50units of d 335i, only a few went to his shop direct, all others are sent by the nearby workshops..

 

[whiteknight88]

hehe.. must've been the best RM180 u've spent lately

 

[saprozeldo]

aiyo, now my front tyres are rubbing against the inner walls as i turn full wheel-locked.. only solution is to replace tyres to the recommended 235/35/R19..

another theory is to reduce the turning capability of the front wheels by installing a limiter cap.. went to 3 workshops already but none knows how to..

ANY THOUGHTS? thanks in advance..

 

[hazeriq]

It seems that you have to go through so much trouble to fit the tyres. The guy who sold you those rims should have told you earlier it does not fit. The furthest I'll go is fender rolling, anything more than that is a hassle in my opinion.

I say change to my set up! 235/35/R19 front 265/30/R19 rear! :smile:

 

[saprozeldo]

Ya la hazeriq.. A bit unfortunate la.. Option to change back to bmw's maximum recommended R19 setup of 235/35 & 265/30 is only available in 6 months time after I wear off the quite brand new tyres..huhuu..

 

[Schwepps]

Make sure it's the extra 10mm tire width that's causing the rubbing and not your rim offsets. Otherwise, you may be spending money on the wrong solution.

 

[David Yong]

If your rim offset is ET28, then it is not the offset, it is the tire. Then change the tire to 235, just like mine as my BBS RS GT rims are running offset ET28 front with 235 size and there is no rubbing at all

 

[Zul]

Or U can try putting a spacer to push the rim outside solving the problem of rubbing the inner wall if U still have space on the front fender.

 

[saprozeldo]

sure ka zul.. dont quite get what you mean.. but spacer's not preferred.. put spacers on my previous ride fairlady, mentally felt it affected my handling and led to some sound around my lower arm/knuckle/bushjoint area..

 

[Fadhlan]

Those are real nice Brembos. Beautiful.

 

[Zul]

sure ka zul.. dont quite get what you mean.. but spacer's not preferred.. put spacers on my previous ride fairlady, mentally felt it affected my handling and led to some sound around my lower arm/knuckle/bushjoint area..

I've used 15 mm front and 12 mm spacer on my M3, no problem as long as it is hubcentric spacer with longer nuts. If your tyre touch the inner wall I think no harm try it and see for few turn. I've used my 19" wheel from my M3 to my e60 but cannot fit because the offset is too much. Put a 10 mm spacer and the wheel fitted nicely not touching the shock absorber/spring. I have used 3 mm, 5 mm, 10 mm, 12 mm and thickest 15 mm spacer on my M3. The best looks on my M3 with the ori M wheel was the 15 mm on the front and 12 mm on the rear. It pushed the wheel/tyre out, looks agressive without touching the fender.

 

[saprozeldo]

yea but d rims offset is already aggressive and too much oredi.. spacer would just push out the tyres closer the fender cover right.. your suggestion can be used if i'm back on my stock rims with standard offset, push it out to look flush..

 

[Zul]

yea but d rims offset is already aggressive and too much oredi.. spacer would just push out the tyres closer the fender cover right.. your suggestion can be used if i'm back on my stock rims with standard offset, push it out to look flush..

What do U mean too much? If the offset too much the rims will be push inside and touch the inner wall. if less the rims will be towards outside and touch the fender. What is your new rim offset? What is the standard offset of your car?

My HRE C20 rims for the M3, 19x8.5 offset 28mm on the e60 will be touching the spring/shock absorber (on the inner side). I reduced the offset to 18 mm with a 10 mm spacer and that solved the problem.

 

[David Yong]

bro, it is important to know the exact offset of your rims

 

[Zul]

Yes, we need your offset to really advise U...

 

[Schwepps]

Zul, I believe you're talking positive offset and he's talking negative offset.

Saprozeldo, in the photo, your rims look positive rather than negative (concave look)

 

[saprozeldo]

zul, sorry my bad.. maybe wrong term used.. the front wheels were rubbing against the front wall (does that make sense? there's the inner wall and outer wall right, so do we call it front & rear wall of the front wheels? the front wall of the right fender houses the oil cooler vent..).. seems to touch when turning.. didnt notice any rubbing on the inner wall..

guys, really not sure of the offsets.. DPE are custom ordered and the BMW-SG guy i got them off also not sure of the offset.. but i do believe maybe what schwepps say may be also right.. if anything, would not be too much different to DY's offset..

thanks guys for the advices so far..

 

[Zul]

OK, now I understand U.

What U meant is the tyre touching the front wall on turning the steering. I'm not sure the OEM size of your tyre but checking from the internet the e92 coupe size should be 225/40-18"(FA) and 255/35-18(RA). Base on that size when U plus-1 the rim size (plus 1" diameter) with the 245/35-19"(FA) size U have increase the overall diameter of the tyre by about 2.7%, the 275/30-19" (RA) size U have increase the overall diameter by about 1.9%. In general a difference of about 3 % of the overall diameter is still acceptable. However with the increase diamter by about 2.7% now it have touch the front wall on cornering. The only way then to correct this problem is to use tyre of different aspect ratio to reduce the overall diameter.

Using 235/35-19" for the front will only increase the overall diameter by about 1.6% and with this reduce the chances of it rubbing the front wall. Your rear tyre is OK as it increase the overall diameter by about 1.9% only with the 275/30-19".

Offset of the rim usually can be found on the inner wall of the rim and stated as ET followed by the value in mm, e.g.: ET 26, meants the offset is 26 mm. So if u want to check the offset u have to see the inner wall or aspect of the rim.

 

[saprozeldo]

Agreed,will have to live with rubbing for d time being till tyre threads wear out a bit justifying a change..

The dpe rims, since custom ordered didn't hv any offset marking in any of the rims.. Is there any way to measure offset?

 

[Schwepps]

As Zul says, the ETxx will be stamped on the inside of the rim, whether for originals, after-markets, imis or custom-mades. It's too important a figure for a wheel not to be there, unless it's a real backyard job.

You can measure the offset manually; you'll need a long ruler and a tape measure. You'll also need to take the wheel off (you can also check for the stamping then) and dismount the tire. Here's how: http://www.ehow.com/how_5021837_calculate-wheel-offset.html

While the wheel(s) are off, measure the hub spigot collar and wheel spigot hole diameter too. Most after-markets will have bigger spigot holes so that the wheels will fit all models that may be interested in those wheels, and to fit them, spigot locating rings may be used. Make sure that the rings (if used) are of good quality. The entire weight of the car and all the stresses of acceleration, cornering, braking and potholes is borne by the spigot and not, as many people think, by the 5 steel studs and bolts that fasten the wheels on the hub. It's a very important safety factor.