new 335i rocks!! (Merged)

[supergripen]

Just for your info. THERE WILL BE A 2.5L TWIN TURBO to be release in 2007 end a little bird told me.

wowzers..if this is indeed true,i'll be a bimmer owner again in a few..

 

[supergripen]

Cool...I agreed for the price, STi is a cool car to drive and own. And HP is cheap, simple mods here and there, and the car will be flying

i guess where the STi scores is in the chassis department,its just mindboggling as to what the car can do in the twisties.

i was actually planning a 2.5 block swap and a longer 5th and 6th ratio for my STi.this will bring the high speed cruise mode into action.but with a 2.5 twin-turbo BMW inline six apparently on the way,i'm having 2nd thoughts.

well,we'll see how things go...

 

[funfer_fahrer]

i guess where the STi scores is in the chassis department,its just mindboggling as to what the car can do in the twisties.

i was actually planning a 2.5 block swap and a longer 5th and 6th ratio for my STi.this will bring the high speed cruise mode into action.but with a 2.5 twin-turbo BMW inline six apparently on the way,i'm having 2nd thoughts.

well,we'll see how things go...

Sekarang macam mana? Are you in?

 

[funfer_fahrer]

wow!!! there's BMW's pessimistic figures for ya.

350bhp!! now that's more like it.this car will roll past any standard STi in the upper gears,no probs.

superb stuff..

Be careful bro..you gonna break your neck with that kind of torque.

 

[supergripen]

Sekarang macam mana? Are you in?

well,to tell u the truth,it'll be ages before i can afford the twin turbo 2.5 (if its true that the car will be produced)..and i'll only buy a turbo.no turbo,no bimmer.

..but if its affordable to me,why not huh??

 

[supergripen]

Be careful bro..you gonna break your neck with that kind of torque.

no worries,my neck is used to all them horses already.

 

[adliz]

quoted from sg-forum

BMW is ramping up it's 3 Series Sedan & Touring models for the 2007 range as it announced the addition of three new six-cylinder powerplants. As from September, the "ultimate" mid-size sport sedan will be available with BMW's new 306 hp twin-turbo 3.0litre petrol engine, to be badged 335i, a 197 hp single turbocharged diesel engine called the 325d and finally, the 335d which boasts a twin-turbocharged 2,993cc engine pumping out 286hp and more impressively, 580 Nm of torque.

for daily drive, the only e90 that i'd get wud be the 3 ltr twin-turbo diesel!!! consumption wud be damn economical!!! imagine going on a return trip to JB with only half tank!! and with a proper ecu re-mapping, power wud be superb! the saying 'eat my smoke' wud then be relevant!

 

[KL2DC]

for daily drive, the only e90 that i'd get wud be the 3 ltr twin-turbo diesel!!! consumption wud be damn economical!!! imagine going on a return trip to JB with only half tank!! and with a proper ecu re-mapping, power wud be superb! the saying 'eat my smoke' wud then be relevant!

Agreed...simple ECU remapping (either custom or generic (bypass module) turns these into outright torque monsters *drool*

You can retune the current 330d to generate 285hp/610Nm (610lb/ft). The best part is that the standard steptronic (330d and 335d not available with manual) has a breakage rate of 1.7 (i.e. it can handle up to 850Nm with no modification).

 

[supergripen]

sigh...if only the diesel quality in Malaysia is as good as those in Europe.but i guess if that were to happen,the prices won't be as low.
heard that the bad diesel that we have here actually corrodes the engine's seals and some internals..horror!!

 

[adliz]

Agreed...simple ECU remapping (either custom or generic (bypass module) turns these into outright torque monsters *drool*

You can retune the current 330d to generate 285hp/610Nm (610lb/ft). The best part is that the standard steptronic (330d and 335d not available with manual) has a breakage rate of 1.7 (i.e. it can handle up to 850Nm with no modification).

1.7? how do u get this figure? u bmw engineer aa? if so, wud you know if the new gen step wud come with paddle shift like in the cooper s? i think that'd be brilliant!! very usefull to let you stay in the correct gear while giving your full attention to keeping the car on the road.. hehe..

 

[funfer_fahrer]

and i'll only buy a turbo.no turbo,no bimmer.

What if they come out with a supercharger or an additional electric motor?

 

[KL2DC]

1.7? how do u get this figure? u bmw engineer aa? if so, wud you know if the new gen step wud come with paddle shift like in the cooper s? i think that'd be brilliant!! very usefull to let you stay in the correct gear while giving your full attention to keeping the car on the road.. hehe..

Only the steptronic can reign in all that torque although there are some insider rumors of a 6MT possibly coming out for the 335d later on...remains to be seen.

Paddle shifters are a $100 option in combination with steptronic and sport package (ZSP) configuration on the MY2007 e90 and e92 335i.

The optional paddle-shifters on the 335i will be put to good use as the new 6sp steptronic on the 335i promises lightining-fast changes...

High-performance electric control for a fast response.
The new version of BMW six-speed automatic transmission allows a truly unique, active and sporting style of motoring. The sophisticated electronic control unit permanently monitors the position of the gas pedal, registering the intensity of the pressure exerted by the driver on the gas pedal and determining whether and to what extent the driver wishes to accelerate. Retrieving data on the road speed of the car, engine speed and the steering angle, the control unit also detects current driving conditions at all times, considering furthermore whether the car is driving uphill or downhill. By taking all these criteria and many others into account, electronic transmission management, together with its high-performance software, is able to determine which gear is the most suitable under current driving conditions to meet the driver’s particular demands.


The driver expresses these demands smoothly, easily and clearly through his foot on the accelerator, the transmission control unit automatically choosing the topmost gear as long as the driver is just cruising along with consistent pressure on the gas pedal. In this case the automatic transmission will never forget to shift up, keeping the car in its most economical gear at all times. But at the same time the automatic transmission is always ready for any change in driving conditions, responding instantaneously and precisely to new demands and requirements, regardless of whether the driver wishes to slowly build up extra speed or whether he obviously wishes to accelerate fast and dynamically.


Direct choice of the optimum gear.
Whether the transmission should shift back and, if so, to what degree, is determined by the electronic control unit applying data provided on load and driving conditions as well as the rate at which the driver presses down the gas pedal. So depending on the overall scenario, the transmission is able to shift down in the same brief instant either “just” one or several gears. All that counts is how fast the driver wishes to accelerate. The harder he presses down the gas pedal, the more dynamically his car will accelerate to the desired speed, choosing the gear required directly and without any transitional phase.

This direct gear finding process, as it is called, gives the automatic transmission its unique precision, without any time-consuming search for the right gear, which the driver would always notice and experience as an unwanted delay. Indeed, the transmission will determine and find the optimum gear ratio instantaneously while the driver is still pressing down the gas pedal, making machine even faster than man.


A mere 100 milliseconds response time.
Responding at such unprecedented speed, BMW’s new six-speed automatic transmission sets new standards, the dynamic gearshift leaving behind
not only conventional automatic transmissions, but even the manual gearbox: The new six-speed automatic transmission completes every gearshift process faster than even the vast majority of sporting drivers experienced in shifting gears manually. This is borne out particularly clearly by the extreme demand made by BMW’s development engineers in defining a kick-down signal at a speed of 70 km/h or 50 mph in sixth gear. The requirement even in this case is to ensure maximum acceleration – and precisely that is what the new six-speed automatic transmission provides, responding in just 100 milliseconds to the driver’s commands. At the same time the automatic transmission sends a positive force pulse to the engine, which immediately increases its speed from approximately 1,400 to more than 5,000 rpm while the transmission itself shifts back from sixth to second gear.


The time required for shifting gears is also shortened 50 per cent compared with a conventional transmission, again enabling the car to instantaneously switch over from a smooth cruising mode to fast and dynamic acceleration in less than a second, offering truly impressive shift-down performance quite impossible with any kind of conventional automatic transmission.


The new six-speed automatic transmission therefore responds more quickly than the driver is even able to notice – all he feels is the spontaneous reaction to his commands and wish for dynamic acceleration. And all that remains is a wonderful feeling of satisfaction, with the driver marvelling at the intuitive reaction of the new six-speed automatic transmission to his wish for dynamic performance.

 

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[Alvin]

wowzers..if this is indeed true,i'll be a bimmer owner again in a few..

Yup! Its already on test now. Been working with the ECU makers on the new ECU & stuffs. When it will be actually launch, I dont know yet but target is 2007 it will be revealed.

 

[f8.]

not too sure 'bout that..turbo units are normally made by specialists.for instance Subaru uses mostly IHI,Mitsi goes for Garrett.there are also tuners that does their own turbos,HKS for one.
if BMW makes theirs,they sure do have a lot of dough..

would be good if there is a link..the turbos looks pretty small,like those on a certain twinturbo V6 by Mitsi.

Mitsubishi makes their own turbo's, mostly known as the TD series. As in the Evo's, they run variants of the TD05. Mitsubishi also supplies turbo's to people like Saab, as well as tuners like Trust/Greddy.

The major downside for Mistubishi turbo's is that as far as I know, they haven't got ball bearing turbo's yet unlike IHI and Garrett.

HKS uses Garrett turbo's but to their own spec. If you ever see any HKS turbo that starts with 'GT...' you can be sure its a ball bearing turbo.

Just some trivia info that may be of interest.