Hmmmmm E92 335i is faster then E46 M3?

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dzuljazz2001;796380 said:
:listen: ...since 2010 bro .. the 2007 model Twin T comes with a 306bhp whilst mine the 2008-2009 model comes with 326bhp :4:....

Mr. Prez as I recall only the 335is is being offered with 326ps for US and Canada


Any link to she'd some light?
 
maxxsp;796383 said:
2 very different cars.

E46 M3 is hard to launch (manual), needs a good driver. Torque is high up in the rev range.
E92 335i can be fast even with a average driver.

Stock vs stock from a standstill the E46 M3 would be faster with a good driver, but with a bad launch the E92 335i could win.
Around the track or twisties the E46 M3 will be faster.

:15::15::15: ... :4: ...
 
B33mEr;796387 said:
Mr. Prez as I recall only the 335is is being offered with 326ps for US and Canada

Any link to she'd some light?

Sorry bro, dont hv the link but I believe if you google it or wikipedia it, there will be abundance of info ... :4: ....
 
dzuljazz2001;796390 said:
Sorry bro, dont hv the link but I believe if you google it or wikipedia it, there will be abundance of info ... :4: ....

Which I can't find any except for the ones mentioned which is the North american market :4:

The one that have the upgrade power plant is the 335is, z4 35is (world wide) and the 1M ...
 
B33mEr;796391 said:
Which I can't find any except for the ones mentioned which is the North american market :4:

The one that have the upgrade power plant is the 335is, z4 35is (world wide) and the 1M ...

Upgraded power plant? ... The N54 is indeed one mean power machine ... especially in the 1M series ... little wonder its kinda hard for the E46 to even see its smoke I say .... cabutsssss.... :vroam:.....
 
Expected many roadblocks tomite at klang valley....tomorrow himpunan 1 juta....i dont want to get caught by the roadblock
 
hence why i say they will always say faster than any n/a M's... these debates always go on esp on bmw forums.

Stock with stock no way 335i can outgun an m3. Tuned 335i is a different story but so is a tuned m3. My own experience is traffic light drag i will always be ahead as i would be prepared but a rolling drag race is where the 335i is king cause they have ample torque at a lower and i have to work at a higher rpm to get to my power band. At the corners? who has the bigger marbles i guess :)

To my knowledge i didn't know there was any 335is in malaysia thought there were for NA market only.
 
MRsamdol;796407 said:
hence why i say they will always say faster than any n/a M's... these debates always go on esp on bmw forums.

Stock with stock no way 335i can outgun an m3. Tuned 335i is a different story but so is a tuned m3. My own experience is traffic light drag i will always be ahead as i would be prepared but a rolling drag race is where the 335i is king cause they have ample torque at a lower and i have to work at a higher rpm to get to my power band. At the corners? who has the bigger marbles i guess :)

To my knowledge i didn't know there was any 335is in malaysia thought there were for NA market only.


Is this what you mean by lower rev torque?
[video=youtube;E3YwyNv5zwk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YwyNv5zwk[/video]

[video=youtube;639YdES_IIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=639YdES_IIA&NR=1[/video]



E92 M3 and E46 M3 are very near
[video=youtube;cxPEvpfYUsI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxPEvpfYUsI[/video]
 
dzuljazz2001;796394 said:
Upgraded power plant? ... The N54 is indeed one mean power machine ... especially in the 1M series ... little wonder its kinda hard for the E46 to even see its smoke I say .... cabutsssss.... :vroam:.....

Mr. prez doing the matrix dodging the bullet lol .... cabutzzzzzzzz
 
Daniel E30;796375 said:
Aiya, must bench mark 335 with e92 M3. Not E46 M3. Benchmark E46 M3 with someones E46 ESS Supercharged unit......

Oits don't bring this case out k....no way can take an M car:p Must kaw tau if see M and cabutzzzzzzzZzzzZZZzzZZ
 
B33mEr;796373 said:
Errrr mr. Prez since when e92 335 comes with 335bhp stock standard?
I also didnt know, thought it was all 306bhp stock. U sure kah mr prez?
 
Met a person say his golf gti is faster than my car.... some say 320d is faster than gti... In conclusion? no need 335i, 320d is also faster than M!

Joking only ya :)

One car i always meet on the road and can say is equal to the M is the audi TT RS. Always underestimate them, always kena lesson by them :)
 
hats off to the 335 owners .... what a piece of machine it is ....

madziz : yours is the fastest e46 in Malaysia lorrrr
 
I recently acquired a 46 M3. Before taking the decision, I tested 3 cars to ensure I spend my money wisely.

E92 335i - modern, awesome look, light, nimble. Torquey at all revs. Felt like driving a supped up JDM, fast but not enuff feel
E92 M3 - similar as above tech and looks wise, sounds great, well balanced. I just could not fathom spending 380k, so had to give it a skip
E46 M3 - for under 200k, u will never find a car that handles so well, and literally teaches you how to drive. It seriously takes kahuna's to keep a car that powerful in the rev band for max power

So I don't know how to debate this topic, cause the comparisons are not going to be fair to the enthusiast of each model. However, a ///M is still a ///M, pinnacle of BMW's power and handling technology. There is no dispute there even from the most avid 335i fan.

Pls don't race on public roads to put this theory to a test, it's very dangerous. The track is the place for such exploits.

God bless always
 
Ramsing Samseng's M50 lagi power lagi best...hahaha

Cabutzzzz....

P/S: totally agree with SSMANN
 
Fuiyoh!

Stay at speed above 250 km/h for that long time ah?
At which highway they drove the car?

My experience in Nort-South Expressway,
Once you reach 200 km/h, there is always some body in front that force you to slow down and accelarate again.
 
dzuljazz2001;796358 said:
You are not wrong there bro but like I hv said earlier, it all depends on who is behind the wheels :4: ..... moreover if one see the spec stock for stock ... the 335i is still much better, more so with its lighter body ...

E92 335i - N54B30 - 2979cc - 335bhp / 450Nm
E46 M3 - S54B32 - 3246cc - 338bhp / 365Nm

For the E46, thts the Eur version and if its the US spec is 333bhp / 355Nm ... unless u hv the E46 M3 GTR (Race version) than thats a whole lot of power for a small ride ... 438bhp / 479Nm.



Now how can I say our 335i is not better :4: ...

You forgot to list the 0-100 times.
'07 335i (Manual) - 5.6s
'10 335i (DCT) 5.4s
'02 E46 M3 (Manual & SMGII) - 5.1s
'08 E92 M3 (DCT) - 4.6s

PS: Car & Driver tested the US version (333hp) of the E46 M3 and got 0-100 times of 4.8s

So I must say the E46 M3 is better :4::4::4:

MRsamdol;796434 said:
Met a person say his golf gti is faster than my car.... some say 320d is faster than gti... In conclusion? no need 335i, 320d is also faster than M!

Joking only ya :)

One car i always meet on the road and can say is equal to the M is the audi TT RS. Always underestimate them, always kena lesson by them :)

GTI drivers always have something to prove. I have had alot of fun toying with them in my M3. At the next traffic light they stop trying to be a hero.

The TT RS is a very quick car! 0-100 in 5.4s with DSG

ssmann;796445 said:
E46 M3 - for under 200k, u will never find a car that handles so well, and literally teaches you how to drive. It seriously takes kahuna's to keep a car that powerful in the rev band for max power

So I don't know how to debate this topic, cause the comparisons are not going to be fair to the enthusiast of each model. However, a ///M is still a ///M, pinnacle of BMW's power and handling technology. There is no dispute there even from the most avid 335i fan.

Pls don't race on public roads to put this theory to a test, it's very dangerous. The track is the place for such exploits.

God bless always

THIS.

The sublime handling of this car puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it.
Having regularly driven my brother's E36 M3 Evo, I drive with traction control off in my E46 M3. When it reaches its peak rev range it is a handful to control, a squirt of the throttle can put the car sideways!
Once you have driven one, there is no substitute for ///M
 
:4: .... quite a stir here eh ... hehehehe ... at least I got to wake up a few of the ///M kaki's :4: .... and yes I do hv to agree an M is still an M. One hell of a Macho Machine :4: ....

We will have a track day soon for every Ms and 335i to quench their passion for speed :top: ....

Cheers guys :4: ....
 
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