hard handling on Run Flat Tyres

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Seith_C

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hi all sifu...i just changed my tyres to run flat tyres..but its seems a bit bumpy when drive through those uneven or those hole road...and it seems to pull my steering when drive through those uneven surface... is this normal for run flat tyres..?...
Front 18x40x225
Rear 18x35x255
Please advise....
 
Yours Faithfully (YF) said:
Run flats are known to be harder tyres. What do you mean by pull?
Its like when i drive through the uneven road, my steering will move a bit left or right folllow the uneveness of the road...is this normal..?
 
Seith..yes it is normal...runflat has much stiffer sidewalls (to support the tyres in the event of a puncture) which accounts for the harshness in ride quality but on the positive side your cornering should slightly improve...regarding the pull, mine is even worse at 20" and wider tyres...try minimizing it by checking your alignment and arms which was likely done when u changed to the new rubbers...
 
silverbullet said:
Seith..yes it is normal...runflat has much stiffer sidewalls (to support the tyres in the event of a puncture) which accounts for the harshness in ride quality but on the positive side your cornering should slightly improve...regarding the pull, mine is even worse at 20" and wider tyres...try minimizing it by checking your alignment and arms which was likely done when u changed to the new rubbers...
Oh...thanks a lot .. bro..
But what is the rubber that u refering...?
I dare not to try the corner yet, because i scared meet those bad road while speeding in cornering..u know lor..our road...haha...
Maybe can try on NS highway one day...
Woww..ur one 20" ar...what Kind of rims u using...?..sometimes i was worry about crack if having big rims...
But look very nice....
 
Thanks AB, always been a helpful hand :)

Copy paste from the link on Tramlining:

"Tramlining is the tendency of a vehicle's wheels to follow the contours in the surface upon which it runs. The term comes from the tendency of a car's wheels to follow the normally recessed rails of street trams, without driver input in the same way that the train does. The same effect is sometimes called Nibbling.

Tramlining can usually be blamed on tires, and its incidence depends greatly on the model of tire and its state of wear. Although not normally dangerous, at very high speeds it can become a source of instability.

Vehicles with large and wide low profile tires are more prone to the effects as well as vehicles which have wheels fitted that are larger than the manufacturers recommendation or have reinforced sidewalls. People who are relatively inexperienced with driving with this tendency will feel that they have to make continual course corrections and it is very easy to overcompensate the steering, which could potentially lead to veering off the road especially if the road is a narrow track/country road.

The effects of tramlining can be eased by subjecting the vehicle to an inspection and calibration of the wheels (i.e. a full geometry check) or replacing the tires with non-reinforced (soft sidewall) tires."
 
yes.. trambling.. and also.. the higher unsprung weight makes a lot of different in the feel. u will need a more dampening shock to match


but.. are u changing from non rft to rft? if yes,, why?
 
astroboy said:
The pulling phenomena your are experiencing is referred to as "Tramlining".. in your case, is due to reinforced RFT side walls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramlining
Thanks bro, for enlighten me...really clear explaination from the link....
Now a bit regret on this rft dy..haha...so this rft mean to be safety purpose but for our road seems doesnt safety at all...
 
silverbullet said:
Thanks AB, always been a helpful hand :)

Copy paste from the link on Tramlining:

"Tramlining is the tendency of a vehicle's wheels to follow the contours in the surface upon which it runs. The term comes from the tendency of a car's wheels to follow the normally recessed rails of street trams, without driver input in the same way that the train does. The same effect is sometimes called Nibbling.

Tramlining can usually be blamed on tires, and its incidence depends greatly on the model of tire and its state of wear. Although not normally dangerous, at very high speeds it can become a source of instability.

Vehicles with large and wide low profile tires are more prone to the effects as well as vehicles which have wheels fitted that are larger than the manufacturers recommendation or have reinforced sidewalls. People who are relatively inexperienced with driving with this tendency will feel that they have to make continual course corrections and it is very easy to overcompensate the steering, which could potentially lead to veering off the road especially if the road is a narrow track/country road.

The effects of tramlining can be eased by subjecting the vehicle to an inspection and calibration of the wheels (i.e. a full geometry check) or replacing the tires with non-reinforced (soft sidewall) tires."
Hello bro...do u ever meet crack rims before...? ..what kind of rims u r using..?
 
alantiong said:
yes.. trambling.. and also.. the higher unsprung weight makes a lot of different in the feel. u will need a more dampening shock to match


but.. are u changing from non rft to rft? if yes,, why?
Ya...actually long story, i been experience few times rims cracked and keep changing the rims and tyres...
So since i changing the rims again then was wondering to try out how is effect of the rft...end up...a bit upset actually..
Anywhere this time i use 2nd one so not so bad lor...but i always worry about non rft if puncture then will be a bit troblesome also...
 
Hello bro...do u ever meet crack rims before...? ..what kind of rims u r using..?
Some recommend to use BBS rims, lightweight and strong...I'm using ori rims made in Japan bro...Volks Rays :)
 
silverbullet said:
Some recommend to use BBS rims, lightweight and strong...I'm using ori rims made in Japan bro...Volks Rays :)
Oh...thanks for ur info...haha...
 
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