Engine Oil Test

[narayan]

It's written in russian.. and i don't understand one bit. anyway, here goes.http://bmwservice.livejournal.com/27699.htmlThe test.[youtube]dW227-Bj4wQ[/youtube]The resultsI'll start with something we can buy off the shelf at any Castrol service center.In our market, it's call Castrol EdgeTitanium (FST) A3/B4 (RM220 including service ?)http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=82914627&contentId=7049418Castrol EDGE SAE 0W40 A3/B4 FSThttp://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6405/16219540.1/0_8a636_99d130d8_XXLCASTROL MAGNATEC A3/B3 SAE 10W40http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6412/16219540.5/0_8ee54_a62b832c_XXLCastrol SLX PROFESSIONAL LONGTEC SAE 0W30http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6508/16219540.3/0_8c85d_3e9e42a6_origCASTROL EDGE PROFESSIONAL BMW LL01 SAE 5W30http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6507/16219540.3/0_8c84a_e395874_origBMW ORIGINAL SAE 0W40 LL-04http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6404/16219540.1/0_8a7c9_30bc8c98_XXLBMW ORIGINAL SAE 0W40 QUALITY LONGLIFE LL-01http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6603/16219540.1/0_8a633_979100a9_XXLBMW ORIGINAL SAE 0W30 QUALITY LONGLIFE LL-01FEhttp://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6405/16219540.1/0_8a630_888d2188_XXLBMW ORIGINAL HIGH PERFORMANCE MOTOR OIL SAE 5W30http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6608/16219540.3/0_8c846_53bbc1a0_origBMW ORIGINAL LL-01 SAE 5W30http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6508/16219540.3/0_8c847_c123a5aa_origBMW ORIGINAL SUPER POWER OIL SAE 5W40http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6509/16219540.3/0_8c848_e9a95e5e_origMOTUL 300V POWER ESTER CORE SAE 5W40http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6503/16219540.2/0_8b506_7e90b311_XXLMOTUL 300V POWER SAE 5W40http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6404/16219540.1/0_8a62d_daad6be8_XXLSHELL HELIX ULTRA RACING SAE 10W60http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6502/16219540.2/0_8b74c_ed194c7_XXLMobil 1 SAE 0W40 USA http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6403/16219540.1/0_8a645_78cbc5b6_XXLLIQUI MOLY SYNTHOIL HIGH TECH SAE 5W40http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6613/16219540.5/0_8ee5e_7ca9a409_XXLMercedes Benz Original 229.5http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6403/16219540.1/0_8a643_9ef3524a_XXLTOYOTA MOTOR OIL SAE 5W30http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6503/16219540.2/0_8b752_de4d03be_XXL

 

[lwloh]

wah.. impress toyota oil also not bad eh. Looks like best is Ori Super Power !

 

[astroboy]

Castrol Magnatec semi sync definitely value for money! :top:

 

[narayan]

Castrol Magnatec semi sync definitely value for money! :top:

i agree... but you need to make sure you buy the correct Magnatec.
Key SPEC - A3/B4 or A3/B3

CASTROL MAGNATEC SAE 5W30 A1 "For Ford Engines"

CASTROL MAGNATEC C3 SAE 5W30

CASTROL MAGNATEC A3/B4 SAE 5W30

CASTROL MAGNATEC A3/B3 SAE 10W40

Malaysia's Magnatec
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9029439&contentId=7065750

APPLICATIONS
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A5 is suitable for use in automotive gasoline and diesel engines where the manufacturer recommends ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1 or API SM/CF ILSAC GF-4 5W-30 Lubricant.
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A5 has been developed for use in Ford vehicles that require a 5W-30 lubricant that meets Ford WSS-M2C-913-C, WSS-M2C-913B or WSS-M2C-913A.

 

[astroboy]

Even the Malaysia Fully Synthetic Toyota Genuine Motor Oil is not SN rated, only SM..

 

[narayan]

i agree... but you need to make sure you buy the correct Magnatec.
Key SPEC - A3/B4 or A3/B3

Malaysia's Magnatec
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9029439&contentId=7065750

APPLICATIONS
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A5 is suitable for use in automotive gasoline and diesel engines where the manufacturer recommends ACEA A5/B5, A1/B1 or API SM/CF ILSAC GF-4 5W-30 Lubricant.
Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A5 has been developed for use in Ford vehicles that require a 5W-30 lubricant that meets Ford WSS-M2C-913-C, WSS-M2C-913B or WSS-M2C-913A.

ACEA Ratings
http://www.acea.be/images/uploads/files/2010_ACEA_Oil_Sequences.pdf

«Consumer Language»:
A/B : gasoline and diesel engine oils

A1/B1 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in gasoline engines and car & light van
diesel engines specifically designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a high temperature / high
shear rate viscosity of 2.6 mPa*s for xW/20 and 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s for all other viscosity grades. These oils are unsuitable
for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

A3/B3 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines
and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of low viscosity
oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the engine manufacturer.

A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but
also suitable for applications described under A3/B3.

A5/B5 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in high performance gasoline engines and
car & light van diesel engines designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a High temperature /
High shear rate (HTHS) viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s. These oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner
manual or handbook if in doubt.

 

[anaksarawak]

Wonder what grade is the magnetac sold at tesco

 

[Game-R]

Looking at the tests they have done so far, the brand that is most consistently clean in all their range is Liquid Moly and Mobil 1 oils.
I wonder how many actual Ferrari owners actually use any of that Shell Helix crap. The containers really look like containing cholesterol induced heart attack for your engine.

According to my friend, a motoring journalist in Singapore who did a report on engine lubricant oils, the reason for the particles in the oil is the addition of detergent solutions which can't take the high heat. So it's a trade off if you want more durable oils in your engine but without the detergent cleaning effects.

Added to that, the 400 degrees test tempreture is very rare to encounter in most normal engines. Probably the equivalent of running your engine non stop without coolant for an hour or two.

 

[Iceduke]

wow am surprised LL-04 has sludge.... and magnatec wins!..whoa...

 

[astroboy]

The above test is just a one way 400C boiling test.. in real life, there's heat/cold cycle or different mix and does our NA engine temperature reach 400C?

 

[Game-R]

If its a high performance engine running flat out, there will be hot spots, like the piston and rings, where it can hit that high or higher.
But most day to day driving, I have my doubts. This is more a test to replicate extreme conditions (like an engine overheating, or a car regularly taken track racing in Dubai) to observe the lubricant's tolerances to such.

 

[rayncc]

Since the test results of Shell Helix Ultra Racing was not comparable to some rival oils, then the results for the regular Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 which is sold in Tesco, which I presumed is less superior that the Ultra Racing as tested, would fare even poorer. Maybe to consider Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 (packaged in gold colour container) instead in next purchase, also sold in Tesco.

 

[anaksarawak]

From the recent post of Tan that BMW Super Power only cost RM25 per liter or RM100 per 4 liter it is consider a very value good oil for our cars. However from the above test it look like Castrol Magnatec

........................source from "scorched earth" test
OK, let me give some clarifications on results available today. Based on these results oils may be rated/divided into 4 big groups:

1. Visually OK
2. Prone to deposition
3. Prone to deposition & thickening
4. Prone to polymerization

Oils from the group 3 show some thickening, so it’s possible to guess that after additional exposure to heat they may pass to group 4. The group 2 could be subjectively divided (visually based on appearance of boiling flasks) into 2-3 subgroups. If to judge based on color it seems oils from subgroups 1 and 2, though prone to deposition, withstanded heat relatively well. For the 3rd one test was more tough and it's very likely that after additional exposure to heat they may fail sooner than those from subgroups 1 and 2.

1. Visually OK

AIMOL STREET LINE 5W-40
BMW Original Super Power Oil 5W-40
CASTROL Magnatec 10W-40 A3/B3
FUCHS TITAN GT1 PRO C-3 5W-30
FUCHS TITAN GT1 0W-20
TATNEFT LUX-3 10W-40 PAO
TOTAL QUARTZ 7000 SAE 10W-40
(NIPPON) 5W-30

2. Prone to deposition (division by subgroups is upon my subjective perception only)

BARDAHL XTC 5W-40
BMW 0W-30 Quality Longlife LL-01FE
BMW 0W-40 Quality Longlife LL-01
BARDAHL XTC C60 5W-40
BP VISCO 5000 5W-40
ENEOS GRAN-TOURING 5W-40
BP VISCO 2000 15W-40
CASTROL EDGE FST 0W-40 A3/B4
BP VISCO 3000 10W-40
CASTROL Magnatec A3/B4 SAE 5W-30
GM Genuine Motor Oil 5W-30
CASTROL EDGE 5W-30 (USA)
CASTROL SLX Professional Longtec 0W-30
GULF Formula G 5W-40
ERG OLIKRON SYNTETICO 5W-40
HONDA Genuine HG Synthetic Blend 5W-30
IDEMITSU EXTREME TOURING 5W-40
LIQUI MOLY SYNTHOIL ENERGY 0W-40
MOBIL1 New Life 0W-40 (EU)
LIQUI MOLY SYNTHOIL HIGH TECH 5W-40
MOBIL1 0W-30 (USA)
RAVENOL SSL 0W-40
LIQUI MOLY SYNTHOIL LONGTIME 0W-30
MOBIL1 0W-40 (USA)
REDLINE High Performance Motor Oil 5W-40
MOBIL SUPER 1000 15W-40
TNK MAGNUM MOTOR PLUS 15W-40
PETRO CANADA SUPREME SYNTHETIC 0W-30
TOYOTA MOTOR OIL 5W-30
VALVOLINE SYNPower 5W-30

3. Prone to deposition & thickening (BEST TO AVOID)
BMW ORIGINAL LL-01 5W-30
CASTROL EDGE Sport 10W-60
CASTROL Magnatec 5W-30 A1 "For Ford Engines"
ELF EVOLUTION CRV 0W-30
LIQUI MOLY MOLYGEN 5W-50
MOBIL1 Extended Life 10W-60
MOTUL 300V Power ESTER Core 5W-40
SHELL HELIX ULTRA EXTRA 5W-30
VW Original LL-III

4. Prone to polymerization (BEST TO AVOID)

BMW High Performance Full Synthetic 5W-30
BP VISCO 7000 0W-40
CASTROL Magnatec C3 5W-30
ELF EVOLUTION SXR 5W-40
ENI AGIP i-Sint 5W-40
FUCHS TITAN GT1 5W-40
HAVOLINE Synthetic 5W-40
MOBIL Super 3000 X1 5W-40
PETRO-CANADA SYNTHETIC 5W-40
RED LINE 50WT RACE OIL SAE 50
SHELL HELIX ULTRA 5W-40
SHELL HELIX ULTRA RACING 10W-60

source from : “Scorched earth” test

 

[Volvos525i]

Thanks Bro AS good info here...
So that means Castrol Managtec 10W40 A3/B3 good for our UDM right...:rock:

 

[anaksarawak]

Thanks Bro AS good info here...
So that means Castrol Managtec 10W40 A3/B3 good for our UDM right...:rock:

I think it's best to go for bmw super power 5-40 since its just rm25 per liter

 

[wingzee]

Been using Shell Helix Ultra all these while. How now?

 

[Volvos525i]

I think it's best to go for bmw super power 5-40 since its just rm25 per liter

Well may be my next oil change will try bmw super power 5w-40...:top:

 

[etquah]

Thanks Bro AS good info here...
So that means Castrol Managtec 10W40 A3/B3 good for our UDM right...:rock:

Where to buy in order to avoid imitation Castrol ? Mostly sold at spare parts shop.

 

[Volvos525i]

Where to buy in order to avoid imitation Castrol ? Mostly sold at spare parts shop.

Just go to Aeon Big or Tesco...

 

[maxxsp]

Where to buy in order to avoid imitation Castrol ? Mostly sold at spare parts shop.

Go to a Castrol authorised service centre.