E46 Handling

[romeo_v12]

People,Was on my may to Chillis last night from PJ and took the Mid Valley route on S and was quite surprised that the car was sliding on the last bend(left) just before the ramp down to Jalan bangsar(near used car/temple). I believe I was doing circa 110kmph and the handling wasnt impressive.I think anyone one of us can easily lose it if we're not careful. I think the road was probably designed for 80kmph, and I noticed a puddle on the left lane. (Imagine hiting that and going over)So please be careful, esp when raining and after HH. Guess its time to take a serious look at my suspension set up.Any similar experience?Regards, h34r:

 

[BMW9700]

Romeo,

lots of similar experiences...after HH...........road designed for 60kmh, car designed for 80kmh, driver thinks...150kmh..........ha ha ha

 

[c-square]

Ease up on the throttle a little, guys. Be safe

 

[E46Fanatic]

What I find is that there is a false sense of speed when driving the E46. 80 km/h on the bimmer doesn't feel as fast in the inside (insulation??) compared to 80 km/h say on the Jazz... which I think could be the reasons many folks get caught out on the BMW.

Also never stinge on the tyres on the BMW, esp the rears. MOst people buang the car cos the tail steps out and they don't know what to do.... Get a nice set of sticky performance tyres which will likely reduce risks for you and your car if you drive briskly/ fast with the bimmer.

 

[BMW9700]

Originally posted by E46Fanatic@Jul 19 2005, 11:09 AM
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Get a nice set of sticky performance tyres which will likely reduce risks for you and your car if you drive briskly/ fast with the bimmer.

any recommendations sir? (17 inch)

 

[E46Fanatic]

Originally posted by BMW9700@Jul 18 2005, 10:14 PM

any recommendations sir? (17 inch)

A lot of forummers are very happy with the Pirelli Dragons and I think its great value for performance tyre...

My fav is Michellin Pilot Sport 2 which I am running. I would also consider Conti Sport Contact 2 as a second option.

 

[Lee36328]

Originally posted by romeo_v12@Jul 19 2005, 10:55 AM
People,

Was on my may to Chillis last night from PJ and took the Mid Valley route on S and was quite surprised that the car was sliding on the last bend(left) just before the ramp down to Jalan bangsar(near used car/temple). I believe I was doing circa 110kmph and the handling wasnt impressive.

I think anyone one of us can easily lose it if we're not careful. I think the road was probably designed for 80kmph, and I noticed a puddle on the left lane. (Imagine hiting that and going over)

So please be careful, esp when raining and after HH. Guess its time to take a serious look at my suspension set up.

Any similar experience?


Regards,

h34r:

Good advice there, Romeo.

Just look at the skid marks on the roads and on the wall, and look at how many sections of the fence have been damaged or replaced...

 

[zaki444]

I ply that route practically daily. Just watch it when it rains. Changed to from the original Bridgestone Turanzas to 17" Falken Azenis recently. marginal improvement but still twitchy occasionally. And the ultra light steering doesnt help really.

I get all the more jittery when wife drives to Bangsar. She just floors as soon as she exits Federal Hway into Mid Valley. And she says "Woo...tak payah brake!" And here I am...freaking out big time :angry:

 

[three28]

Romeo ..

Thats a quite tricky bend at the end of the flyover . Tailed out couple times there during my bangsar HH sessions those days .

Good note there .

Verdict ...whatever suspension set up also..its always a nono on malaysian roads esp after a good HH session .

Drive safely guys

 

[romeo_v12]

Appreciate the advice and comments dudes. Will take note.

Got about 15% left on my rear Pilot Sport, guess its time to put some new tyres on.

And Im sure a lot of you will agree that our UDMs are dangerous cars to drive after HH.

Cheers!

 

[tkew]

Try yokohama neova, good performance but a bit pricy, or else get the TOYO T1 R or TOYO Vimmode, good performance and is one of the top tyre in US but unfortunately not so porpular in Malaysia.
Check this out before u decide it will not let u down.

 

[chester]

Get PS2 tyres, very grippy.

 

[romeo_v12]

Just realised my tyre preasure was mega low on 26 psi, have uped it to 30. That probably contributed to the slide at the curve. Whatz best preasure for 235/45/17?

M seriously thinking about the P Dragon's...have got quote for RM500 per piece. Is that the best price in town?

 

[E46Fanatic]

Originally posted by romeo_v12@Jul 19 2005, 02:26 AM
Just realised my tyre preasure was mega low on 26 psi, have uped it to 30. That probably contributed to the slide at the curve. Whatz best preasure for 235/45/17?

M seriously thinking about the P Dragon's...have got quote for RM500 per piece. Is that the best price in town?

Should be stated on your driver door. Its in bar, so you gotta multiply by ~14 to get psi for the pump. 30psi sounds a bit low. For 18" staggered its 34psi FR and 37 psi RR (rounded up). Thats what I use based on manufacturer specs. Gotta keep a lookout for pressure drops as well so I top up about once a month.

 

[Redd]

doesnt the E46 have one of those newfangled traction control thingies to prevent just this sort of scenario from occuring? i was always under the impression that u couldnt screw things up too much in the modern bimmers with the TC on unless u really tried very hard to.

redd

 

[OSFlanker]

Be careful on those bends coz sometimes the tow truck operators put oil on them. Happened to Breakpopin a few years ago on the LDP (right hander flyover near Western Digital ) when his South African Tiger 316i lost control but he managed to catch the car back.

 

[et5]

Originally posted by BMW9700@Jul 19 2005, 11:00 AM
Romeo,

lots of similar experiences...after HH...........road designed for 60kmh, car designed for 80kmh, driver thinks...150kmh..........ha ha ha

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Amen!

 

[flash]

Originally posted by Redd@Jul 19 2005, 03:42 PM
doesnt the E46 have one of those newfangled traction control thingies to prevent just this sort of scenario from occuring? i was always under the impression that u couldnt screw things up too much in the modern bimmers with the TC on unless u really tried very hard to.

redd

To a certain extent they help.... but then again, you cannot bend the natural laws of physics....

 

[E46Fanatic]

Early model prefacelift E46 only came with ASC+T which is essentially traction control. DSC which applies brakes on individual wheels as well as throttle cutting is found on later models sold in Malaysia.

 

[mini_jeff67]

Originally posted by BMW9700@Jul 18 2005, 10:00 PM
Romeo,

lots of similar experiences...after HH...........road designed for 60kmh, car designed for 80kmh, driver thinks...150kmh..........ha ha ha

If driver think its 150, then driver wrong la - 60 + 80 = 140 only ma!